Any lawyers in the house say looooli
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Kuro vi Lolitannia wrote...
Just hide it, make some kind of secret storage in your house.Why the fucking hell all country want to ban loli?
Even if my country ban loli, I gonna hide my harddisk to somewhere save
Lol nice
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Flaser wrote...
I'm sorry but most of the advice so far has been rather irresponsible.words words words
Five star post. Not trying to be sarcastic or patronizing, everything in this post is solid advice, we need more people like you replying in lolicon threads.
Hazah wrote...
even if you have loli as long as The girl,at the very minimium, could be seen to be about 16 then you're alrightWrong place to discuss this, but I really want to get it off my chest that the whole "she looks loli, but she's really XYZ years old" excuse REALLY grinds my gears. A penis doesn't know legalities, it doesn't descriminate for labels we put on things, it reacts simply to what's hot and what isn't hot.
It's overkill that loli gets illegalized, but there is logic in their efforts, child molesters are a _very_ real problem, and some lolicons are too pants-on-head-retarded to behave themselves. Tough shit for you guys, but that's life.
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Anomalouse wrote...
It's overkill that loli gets illegalized, but there is logic in their efforts, child molesters are a _very_ real problem, and some lolicons are too pants-on-head-retarded to behave themselves. Tough shit for you guys, but that's life.While i understand how they are thinking as well it doesn't believe that i think they're right. You shouldn't make laws without doing your homework on the subject.
On topic
I think there's a lot of paranoid people in this thread, for starters if no one else has access to your computer and you're not some evil mastermind or doing some sort of economic fraud or other illegal activities that would screw your over anyways, the police will never ever came and take your computer. If you have random people over at your place that you don't know very well, meaning that they might think your a pedo and report you if they stumble on your loli collecting any sort of crypting will do
It should be mention that there's no special unit that investigates this sort of thing because you can imagine that criticism the police would get if they put down resources on this.
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the states are doing the same thing. real loli is downright illegal, but why anime now all of a sudden? i think this entire thing is retarded. im not giving up my Hmanga collection, and it shouldn't affect your job.
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I used to be as paranoid as hell about it, like you seem to be. I considered giving everything up due to the sheer fear of going to prison. Like it's been said here, I suggest getting something that will do a quick destroy for you (I'm going to look into this myself,) but unless you make a complete ASS of yourself and let the WRONG people know that you like loli, you should be fine.
Fakku is an acceptable place for this. Why? Because a lot of us like loli, and we're not going to report each other. But if you go to some generic anime forum and blurt out DELICIOUS FLAT CHEST! then if the wrong person takes it wrong, something might happen. But someone else online reporting you is really a worst-case scenario, as these days people don't want to go through the legal system if it doesn't benefit (get them money) in any way. Just keep your mouth shut at the right times and don't volunteer information unless you're in a place that you're pretty goddamn sure that at least ONE other person would back your ass up.
I'm not saying "FUCK THE LAW!" and whatever, I'm just saying that you shouldn't be terrified. Unless you have some major reason for your computer to be checked (involved in some big crime, etc) then there's really no reason for anything to search your computer for anything. But like it was said, grab some kind of wipe-it-all program just in case you DO fuck up.
Fakku is an acceptable place for this. Why? Because a lot of us like loli, and we're not going to report each other. But if you go to some generic anime forum and blurt out DELICIOUS FLAT CHEST! then if the wrong person takes it wrong, something might happen. But someone else online reporting you is really a worst-case scenario, as these days people don't want to go through the legal system if it doesn't benefit (get them money) in any way. Just keep your mouth shut at the right times and don't volunteer information unless you're in a place that you're pretty goddamn sure that at least ONE other person would back your ass up.
I'm not saying "FUCK THE LAW!" and whatever, I'm just saying that you shouldn't be terrified. Unless you have some major reason for your computer to be checked (involved in some big crime, etc) then there's really no reason for anything to search your computer for anything. But like it was said, grab some kind of wipe-it-all program just in case you DO fuck up.
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Anomalouse wrote...
It's overkill that loli gets illegalized, but there is logic in their efforts, child molesters are a _very_ real problem, and some lolicons are too pants-on-head-retarded to behave themselves. Tough shit for you guys, but that's life.This. But if we're looking at it that way, the "some are too retarded to behave" logic...that could apply to nearly everything. I do agree and I'm not trying to flamebait, but maybe we should ban all videos of fire in case some pyromaniacs can't control themselves and end up going out and burning down a house.
Honestly the public is overly panicked about pedophiles. I think part of the reason they may have implemented this law is to keep the basket case parents from complaining. (I mean the kind that doesn't let their kid go outside, makes them go to the doctor when they have the sniffles, etc. Overprotective, and freaking out about every small possibility.)If the government is getting some criticism for not doing enough to control pedophilia and child abuse, in response they may take more extreme measures. Compensation.
Not to say that pedophilia isn't an issue, and you can just shrug it off. Just that there's too much hype about it, and the risk of having your child molested by a priest/teacher/stranger with a candy van is much lower than most people would think.
Also, it's hard to understand lolita if you're not a part of it. If you don't enjoy it yourself, you may not agree that the porn you watch =/= what you do IRL. And imagine you're a lawmaker and you do indulge in lolita hentai. Would you be able to stand up and say, "Hey guys. I watch this shit. It's not how you think it is"? Few people have the balls to stand up for loli hentai.
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Vio wrote...
Anomalouse wrote...
It's overkill that loli gets illegalized, but there is logic in their efforts, child molesters are a _very_ real problem, and some lolicons are too pants-on-head-retarded to behave themselves. Tough shit for you guys, but that's life.This. But if we're looking at it that way, the "some are too retarded to behave" logic...that could apply to nearly everything. I do agree and I'm not trying to flamebait, but maybe we should ban all videos of fire in case some pyromaniacs can't control themselves and end up going out and burning down a house.
Honestly the public is overly panicked about pedophiles. I think part of the reason they may have implemented this law is to keep the basket case parents from complaining. (I mean the kind that doesn't let their kid go outside, makes them go to the doctor when they have the sniffles, etc. Overprotective, and freaking out about every small possibility.)If the government is getting some criticism for not doing enough to control pedophilia and child abuse, in response they may take more extreme measures. Compensation.
Not to say that pedophilia isn't an issue, and you can just shrug it off. Just that there's too much hype about it, and the risk of having your child molested by a priest/teacher/stranger with a candy van is much lower than most people would think.
Also, it's hard to understand lolita if you're not a part of it. If you don't enjoy it yourself, you may not agree that the porn you watch =/= what you do IRL. And imagine you're a lawmaker and you do indulge in lolita hentai. Would you be able to stand up and say, "Hey guys. I watch this shit. It's not how you think it is"? Few people have the balls to stand up for loli hentai.
More importantly we should ban all normal porn cause it must be causing rapes which is a far worse problem then a few childmolesters
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Koyori wrote...
More importantly we should ban all normal porn cause it must be causing rapes which is a far worse problem then a few childmolestersSo the consentual converse to rape is sex with an adult, that's legal. The converse to child rape is what, exactly?
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Flaser
OCD Hentai Collector
1st: The Americans are crazy. Their statutory rape laws are batshit insane as they criminalize behavior between teens or young adults and teens (close in age) that is accepted in most of the world as something normal.
2nd: Banning loli does nothing against actual child abuse. I've already wrote about this, so I won't repeat myself.
3rd: Child abuse is usually done by a close relative or very close friend of the family. It's usually someone that the victim and their parents know.
4th: The moral panic around pedophiles has been going strong for over 30 years now and it ruined several lives and has resulted in with hunts and trumped up sentences that makes my blood run cold. It actually hinders the cause of child protection as they divert the attention to various ill defined bogeymen or causes away from the real issues at hand:
That child molestation is usually done in family, that it's not primarily the physical but the psychological damage that has to be treated, that children aren't little angles but curious teenagers who are co-opted into sex games, that such a relationship takes on a sinister shade power-play since their parter is an adult with several years of experience compared to their none on their part, that such thing isn't the dungeon porn most people imagine it to be but something far more blase and sinister at the same time.
2nd: Banning loli does nothing against actual child abuse. I've already wrote about this, so I won't repeat myself.
3rd: Child abuse is usually done by a close relative or very close friend of the family. It's usually someone that the victim and their parents know.
4th: The moral panic around pedophiles has been going strong for over 30 years now and it ruined several lives and has resulted in with hunts and trumped up sentences that makes my blood run cold. It actually hinders the cause of child protection as they divert the attention to various ill defined bogeymen or causes away from the real issues at hand:
That child molestation is usually done in family, that it's not primarily the physical but the psychological damage that has to be treated, that children aren't little angles but curious teenagers who are co-opted into sex games, that such a relationship takes on a sinister shade power-play since their parter is an adult with several years of experience compared to their none on their part, that such thing isn't the dungeon porn most people imagine it to be but something far more blase and sinister at the same time.
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Anomalouse wrote...
Koyori wrote...
More importantly we should ban all normal porn cause it must be causing rapes which is a far worse problem then a few childmolestersSo the consentual converse to rape is sex with an adult, that's legal. The converse to child rape is what, exactly?
doesn't that actually equals with discrimination...they're treating adult rape like it's no big problem...while child rape is like equivalent to a genocide..
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willy191 wrote...
doesn't that actually equals with discrimination...they're treating adult rape like it's no big problem...while child rape is like equivalent to a genocide..You can't discriminate rape, it's all bad. Sex is different, there are ages in which is it acceptable and ages in which it is not.
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I understand if it's about sex...sex with underage is bad even for me...but lots of people's future are destroyed because these children fakes their Id and stuff just because they want to have fun....
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If you think about laws 50 years ago a girl age 15 was legal age in the United States. In Dark Ages 12 years old was legal marriage age. Different times call for different laws but if art is going to become illegal I'm going to start a revolt.
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Anomalouse wrote...
Koyori wrote...
More importantly we should ban all normal porn cause it must be causing rapes which is a far worse problem then a few childmolestersSo the consentual converse to rape is sex with an adult, that's legal. The converse to child rape is what, exactly?
Maybe a better example would've been violent movies or most fps games, where they are killing people like flies. Thus they must be murderers who just haven't murdered anyone yet, wouldn't it be safest if you just put them in jail to protect the people? Or an even better example that fantasy is different from reality would be that many women ( a bit less then half) have had or has fantasies about being raped. Which would mean that in about half all the rape cases the girl actually wanted to be raped. This sounds as wrong to me as calling lolimanga-likers for pedophiles does.
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The rights of people all over the world are being eroded just becasue some douchebags don't like what they see.
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Koyori wrote...
Maybe a better example would've been violent movies or most fps games, where they are killing people like flies. Thus they must be murderers who just haven't murdered anyone yet, wouldn't it be safest if you just put them in jail to protect the people? Or an even better example that fantasy is different from reality would be that many women ( a bit less then half) have had or has fantasies about being raped. Which would mean that in about half all the rape cases the girl actually wanted to be raped. This sounds as wrong to me as calling lolimanga-likers for pedophiles does.If you're talking about violent media breeding violent people, I heard a psychology professor say it's legit, but I'm sure there's evidence for both sides.
To women and rape fantasy, there's a big difference between fantasy and reality, there's no guarantee a girl will enjoy rape if she finds it erotic, and I have no idea why you're bringing this up in respects to calling a lolicon (proper term for "lolimanga-liker") a pedophile.
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Anomalouse wrote...
Koyori wrote...
Maybe a better example would've been violent movies or most fps games, where they are killing people like flies. Thus they must be murderers who just haven't murdered anyone yet, wouldn't it be safest if you just put them in jail to protect the people? Or an even better example that fantasy is different from reality would be that many women ( a bit less then half) have had or has fantasies about being raped. Which would mean that in about half all the rape cases the girl actually wanted to be raped. This sounds as wrong to me as calling lolimanga-likers for pedophiles does.If you're talking about violent media breeding violent people, I heard a psychology professor say it's legit, but I'm sure there's evidence for both sides.
To women and rape fantasy, there's a big difference between fantasy and reality, there's no guarantee a girl will enjoy rape if she finds it erotic, and I have no idea why you're bringing this up in respects to calling a lolicon (proper term for "lolimanga-liker") a pedophile.
There's pretty much a 100% guarantee that she won't enjoy it. I'm just pointing out that there's a pretty big difference in what people think and what people does.
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Sigh~ another country banning loli. Honestly now, do they actually think that will stop child molestation? Or even slow it down? Personally, I think not.
Loli is my favorite genre, and I personally won't give it up regardless of laws made. I doubt the police are gonna bust in my door to look for my porn stash anyway.
And besides, since when is any form of pornography "moral"? I've heard from plenty of people that lolicon is immoral and thus should be banned, but isn't that true of any pornographic material? It's not meant to be moral, it's meant to be something that turns you on.
Whether it's rape, beastiality, guro (none of which I myself like, but will still say should be allowed to whoever wants it), straight sex, shota, milf, or loli, it should be allowed because it's meant to be filthy, meant to be immoral, and really isn't a cause of actual abuse.
Loli is my favorite genre, and I personally won't give it up regardless of laws made. I doubt the police are gonna bust in my door to look for my porn stash anyway.
And besides, since when is any form of pornography "moral"? I've heard from plenty of people that lolicon is immoral and thus should be banned, but isn't that true of any pornographic material? It's not meant to be moral, it's meant to be something that turns you on.
Whether it's rape, beastiality, guro (none of which I myself like, but will still say should be allowed to whoever wants it), straight sex, shota, milf, or loli, it should be allowed because it's meant to be filthy, meant to be immoral, and really isn't a cause of actual abuse.
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To bad to be on your place right now. Ah life! a nice life without loli is hell (to you that is) but for me it's heaven right know weather the goverment say so or otherwise i will never stop liking loli.
NEVER
If there's banned on loli then obama will stand on top of a desk, raise his AK and yell ALALALALALALALALALALAH!
NEVER
If there's banned on loli then obama will stand on top of a desk, raise his AK and yell ALALALALALALALALALALAH!