Censorship
Are you for it or against it?
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it has to take in account what the "morals" and "values" of the people are.
Well that's the problem - as you go on to say yourself. Government censorship doesn't take into account our morals but rather impresses their morals on others. Age restrictions are one thing, but censors saying "no matter how old you are you are not allowed to see this or you will go insane and kill/rape people (even though I just saw it and I'm still fine)" is a pretty fucked up argument.
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Its human nature to want what we dont have, so by censoring everything it causes people to think that swearing is cool, or to jump at the sight of nudity, or say how awesome a bloodbath was in some movie, instead of looking at the filming/dialogue. By not censoring then you end up exposing things to a younger audience earlier in their life, but thats how our society is already headed thanks to the internet, so I think we should just allow everything since if someone really wants to, they can easily find it on the internet on their own. That being said I dont want to be having dinner with my family and turn on the TV to porn. So long as things remain hidden, but not censored then I think its fine. How you would go about doing that I dont even know but the bottom line is society has dug itself a hole to large to get out of without some serious thought. We have to choose between "corrupting" young minds or living within lies.
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I love how you put a poll about censorship on a site dedicated to porn. I would think it goes without saying that most of us would rather be without bleeps, blurs, and bars.
On a more serious note, I think that censorship in the media is pretty pointless. Any child with access to internet will find graphic material whether the FCC, teachers, and parents like it or not.
On a more serious note, I think that censorship in the media is pretty pointless. Any child with access to internet will find graphic material whether the FCC, teachers, and parents like it or not.
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What's the point of porn or hentai if there's censors?
If they're gonna make something that's rated R or M for mature, at least make it perfect. If the censors are on, make it 16+ or 15+. You can't see shit so what's so "Mature" about it?
If they're gonna make something that's rated R or M for mature, at least make it perfect. If the censors are on, make it 16+ or 15+. You can't see shit so what's so "Mature" about it?
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Teclo wrote...
it has to take in account what the "morals" and "values" of the people are.
Well that's the problem - as you go on to say yourself. Government censorship doesn't take into account our morals but rather impresses their morals on others. Age restrictions are one thing, but censors saying "no matter how old you are you are not allowed to see this or you will go insane and kill/rape people (even though I just saw it and I'm still fine)" is a pretty fucked up argument.
I agree...My point is that governments or authorities are supposed to adapt the statutes, laws, and measures of censorship to the type of societies and their values. The problem is that it's completely the opposite nowadays.
As you say, morals are imposed, "we" are expected to adapt and not the other way around. I know that may be extreme, and I try not to give a manichean point of vue, but to simplify I guess censorship must come from the parents, the family, the education and become slowly automatic. If you know what's good for you, and you have a reasonable justification, I think a child is then pretty much able to differenciate what he can watch or read and what he can't.
About internet, of course, if a kid have access to internet, there is no censorship in itself. However every computer, PC or Mac has a parental control, and if you're a parent of a 6 years old, it's your responsability to block access to any porn material. Then again, personal opinion...
PS : sorry for any grammar/spelling mistakes
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Meh, it still kinda serves a purpose, as there are some things you probably wouldn't want to see (generally speaking). So, I think we should be able to put and remove censorship on certain things, depending on our tastes.
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Theres no point in having both censorship AND a ratings system...
If its 18+, you know its got some naughty stuff in it, but its intended for an adult audience and bluring certain things isnt going to give it any more/less of an impact on the subconscious, just dilute the experience.
The rating system exists so you know what to expect, and by censoring, your only altering the image to the INTENDED audience.
So, be away with censorship in all its forms, I just limits freedom of expression.
If its 18+, you know its got some naughty stuff in it, but its intended for an adult audience and bluring certain things isnt going to give it any more/less of an impact on the subconscious, just dilute the experience.
The rating system exists so you know what to expect, and by censoring, your only altering the image to the INTENDED audience.
So, be away with censorship in all its forms, I just limits freedom of expression.
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Chio wrote...
Theres no point in having both censorship AND a ratings system...If its 18+, you know its got some naughty stuff in it, but its intended for an adult audience and bluring certain things isnt going to give it any more/less of an impact on the subconscious, just dilute the experience.
The rating system exists so you know what to expect, and by censoring, your only altering the image to the INTENDED audience.
So, be away with censorship in all its forms, I just limits freedom of expression.
Completely right!!!... I hate how most games 18+ involving romance options don't even show a tit when it comes to the romance scene itself :(
In Dragon Age they just show you the girls in their underwear(without mods)... so it's 18+ just because it has some sex references??... show me a kid 14-15+ that doesn't know what sex is and isn't browsing the net putting fake birthday dates on porn sites :D
And Mass Effect 2 was just plain batshit regarding censorship... it fucking says 18+ on the cover, and there are only bits of skin shown here and there on only 1 type of npc??? And the romance scene with practically 0 nudity because of the idiotic scandal that was in Fox News for the 1st game???? It's not even EROTIC, let alone porn as they portrayed ME1 to be... and besides the romance options are optional, but shouldn't even matter, regardless, since it says 18+ on the cover!!!
Great games though, just that the censorship was very unnecessary