Do you hate the U.S?
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Kind of Important
A ray of Tsunlight.
Well, if you want to speak only of experience. This is the only country I've ever been to, therefore it is the best.
And bullshit to that, screaming meaningless words? Actually liking your country is something that seems to be going out of style. All it is anymore is people complaining about dumb things just because they can. So if I feel like saying positive things about my country (I'm one of the few I guess) then I damn well will.
But I won't slather your country simply because it is not my own.
Perhaps the feeling of superiority is in part due to the massive economical powerhouse we are. (Even now in this less than good economy) I think it says something that it takes not or two or three, but 27 nations (EU) to put out more GDP than we do by ourselves. 18~ Trillion as opposed to 14.2~ Trillion. And that massive amount of money is directly responsible for the huge military we're able to field. Adding to that feeling of superiority.
Even if we do sometime jump into conflicts that are not our own, who says that is a bad thing all the time? Giving aid to countries who need it, isn't really the devil's work or anything. I will agree that we need to learn to be more selective about what we jump in to, but that's for another time.
And bullshit to that, screaming meaningless words? Actually liking your country is something that seems to be going out of style. All it is anymore is people complaining about dumb things just because they can. So if I feel like saying positive things about my country (I'm one of the few I guess) then I damn well will.
But I won't slather your country simply because it is not my own.
Perhaps the feeling of superiority is in part due to the massive economical powerhouse we are. (Even now in this less than good economy) I think it says something that it takes not or two or three, but 27 nations (EU) to put out more GDP than we do by ourselves. 18~ Trillion as opposed to 14.2~ Trillion. And that massive amount of money is directly responsible for the huge military we're able to field. Adding to that feeling of superiority.
Even if we do sometime jump into conflicts that are not our own, who says that is a bad thing all the time? Giving aid to countries who need it, isn't really the devil's work or anything. I will agree that we need to learn to be more selective about what we jump in to, but that's for another time.
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Ergheiz
Derp
The fact that the U.S.A. is a huge economical force in the world gives it rights for it to be the world police and jump in conflicts wherever there is a sense of 'injustice'!
I call this arrogance.
The ignorance in claiming the U.S. is doing a good job in the world by helping nations in need. Yea, great help. Fox told you that I'm sure.
Pretty much the reason why I can't stand most U.S. citizens.
P.S.
Please do slander my country. I'm not that much of a patriot. For all I care I was born in Africa, South-America or Asia. Place where I am right now just happens to be where I am right now.
I call this arrogance.
The ignorance in claiming the U.S. is doing a good job in the world by helping nations in need. Yea, great help. Fox told you that I'm sure.
Pretty much the reason why I can't stand most U.S. citizens.
P.S.
Please do slander my country. I'm not that much of a patriot. For all I care I was born in Africa, South-America or Asia. Place where I am right now just happens to be where I am right now.
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Kind of Important wrote...
Ergheiz wrote...
I just hate the general arrogance and ignorance from most U.S. citizens.Herp derp, best country in the world etc etc..How can you even compare if you haven't visited any foreign country in your life EVER?
Quite easily, the same way everyone else assumes all Americans are overweight, lazy bastards.
Granted some of us are, but after they all die off, we'll be the better for it.
Besides, what's the problem with thinking your country is the best? Really? So, as soon as you say your country is better than all the others, I can start making fun of you too, right?
Nationalism is nice and all, but I think Erg meant that Americans take it too far with their egoistic beliefs that we feel like the "world police for democracy". Honestly, I feel that our government and media is at fault and the people are being misled. They're responsible for their views and pointing towards what we 'should' believe in rather than focusing on the bigger picture or embellish the truth. Everyday, you will always see that one guy pressure the crowd to cause a hype and do something while everyone else bandwagons and blindly do stupid things. Don't blame the angry mob, not everyone is smart, blame the con-man who's blending in the crowd and started it all.
For your own country, you don't have to trust your government; just believe in your country, the people that live on the same land and breathe the same air as you do. I don't hate the U.S., it's a fine place and our founding fathers had something else in mind than what we have right now.
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Rbz wrote...
Tribly wrote...
Nationalism is nice and allNo, it isn't.
Without nationalism, we wouldn't have our American revolution now would we?
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Can't say I love this country since it never made me feel welcome as a kid. Being naive as a kid in this country can lead to many cruel experiences. Then when I grew up, I apparently became just as cruel as those people who made me regret living here at certain times. Gotta love this endless cycle of hate.
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Tribly wrote...
Rbz wrote...
Tribly wrote...
Nationalism is nice and allNo, it isn't.
Without nationalism, we wouldn't have our American revolution now would we?
Yes, we fucking would.
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Rbz wrote...
Tribly wrote...
Rbz wrote...
Tribly wrote...
Nationalism is nice and allNo, it isn't.
Without nationalism, we wouldn't have our American revolution now would we?
Yes, we fucking would.
Tribly is 50/50 on that. It wasn't a reason for the revolution as you pointed out. Nationalism was a factor but, only as a component of the whole. A culmination of all the reasons that sparked the revolution.
When we gave the finger to the king of England we said "Fuck you, we'll make our own country" that is a form of revolutionary nationalism. Not to mention the civic nationalism that influenced the very earliest documents and decisions.
Nationalism can be good or evil depending on how it's managed. At best you have the beginning of America (i.e. "Come and Join us, be apart of the greatness that is America.) at the worst you have Chauvinism or Jingoism.
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Florida here... i hate this country well because of the shear stupidity of the majority of the people. A great example i can recall.. was a guy who lives in my local area trying to sue Anhiser bush, over loosing his job due to getting a D.U.I. saying that he lost his job due to being unable to get to work without being able to drive.
Almost no one thinks they should accountable for their actions.
Yes i hate this country... Doesnt it say in a certain document "all men are created equal" yet i have to work my ass off day in and day out to make ends meet and pay my bills. yet jose over here is getting 1500 bucks a month from the goverment because he cant read or write english very well?!?!
Almost no one thinks they should accountable for their actions.
Yes i hate this country... Doesnt it say in a certain document "all men are created equal" yet i have to work my ass off day in and day out to make ends meet and pay my bills. yet jose over here is getting 1500 bucks a month from the goverment because he cant read or write english very well?!?!
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As history tells us, every great empire will fall. So we are all headed that way.
As most of you have said the U.S is hated and liked, it depends on how people are raised.
As most of you have said the U.S is hated and liked, it depends on how people are raised.
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If there is any country i like it must be the country I made....so...no I don't really like the US
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I love being an American. I've visited 20 other countries over the years...some similar (U.K., Australia) and some 3rd world (Caribbean mostly). I have won a lottery of sorts by being born here...the opportunities available in this country are simply amazing.
Every day, thousands (if not tens or hundreds of thousands) of people risk their lives to escape to this country. Some of their reasons are real, and some are not. But they have been doing it for decades. If that isn't proof enough that this country is worth it, then I don't know what is.
Ever since post WWII, we have been screwing up international politics. The rebuilding of Europe was the last truly kind act we pulled off successfully. We mean well, but our government oversteps our bounds with much of their behavior. I am one of those who would like to see all our troops come home and many of our overseas businesses (and "missionaries") close up shop. When oil runs out (or home-grown alternatives are perfected), we probably will finally do that.
If for no other reason then the fact that you cannot force lessons on other people. Every time we try to "create" democracy, we forget the fact that democracy isn't something that was "discovered" or "invented"...it is something that matured. Democracy will come to 3rd world countries when they are ready. Will people suffer in the mean time? You'd better believe it. Can we stop it? No. I would argue that we have only prolonged or created even more suffering as a result of our efforts in places like Vietnam.
Also, don't believe everything you see in the media. This applies as much to the rest of the world as it does to viewers here at "home". We are not defined by our president, and neither is every 3rd world country defined by its dictator.
People seem to forget that the U.S. has been built by the best and brightest from all around the world. Each generation owes some of its triumphs to immigrants. To say you hate the U.S. is to say you hate the combination of people. Take a good look at the Olympics, and you'll see what I mean.
Every day, thousands (if not tens or hundreds of thousands) of people risk their lives to escape to this country. Some of their reasons are real, and some are not. But they have been doing it for decades. If that isn't proof enough that this country is worth it, then I don't know what is.
Ever since post WWII, we have been screwing up international politics. The rebuilding of Europe was the last truly kind act we pulled off successfully. We mean well, but our government oversteps our bounds with much of their behavior. I am one of those who would like to see all our troops come home and many of our overseas businesses (and "missionaries") close up shop. When oil runs out (or home-grown alternatives are perfected), we probably will finally do that.
If for no other reason then the fact that you cannot force lessons on other people. Every time we try to "create" democracy, we forget the fact that democracy isn't something that was "discovered" or "invented"...it is something that matured. Democracy will come to 3rd world countries when they are ready. Will people suffer in the mean time? You'd better believe it. Can we stop it? No. I would argue that we have only prolonged or created even more suffering as a result of our efforts in places like Vietnam.
Also, don't believe everything you see in the media. This applies as much to the rest of the world as it does to viewers here at "home". We are not defined by our president, and neither is every 3rd world country defined by its dictator.
People seem to forget that the U.S. has been built by the best and brightest from all around the world. Each generation owes some of its triumphs to immigrants. To say you hate the U.S. is to say you hate the combination of people. Take a good look at the Olympics, and you'll see what I mean.
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[z]NOFUTURE wrote...
I dislike being oppressed from the shadows by my own government.So, you hate 90% of the world's countries?
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the problem is about what they call "safety". But in my opinion, I know that they just wanted to stop the nuclear program of North Korea and Iran not for their security (they got no worries cuz of the anti-balistic missle system "safeguard".)but for their national INTERESTS! (I.E. Persian Gulf=oil and South Korea=raw materials.)
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But as we know The Philippines became one of their colonies. They are helping other nations just to gain materials or some sort of much more valuable political securities.(we call it neo-colonialism)They just wanted to secure their idea of a so called free world to get raw materials and other aid (such as oil in case of operation desert storm and the invasion of iraq).Back in the 60's and 70's they believed in the domino effect (If south vietnam falls or defeated,other southeast asian nations will follow suit in a communist takeover or any other nation such as the cuban revolution led by fidel castro).They don't want this to happen cuz their cant get any raw material or other necessary to a communist state that has alliance
to the USSR (Old case,in the new case,islamic insurections)because their ideas contradict.
to the USSR (Old case,in the new case,islamic insurections)because their ideas contradict.