Gays. Born gay or choose that way?
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Unsigned wrote...
Let's say a your a guy, which is most of you guys. And you have this girl that you love in which you spend ever waking moment together. After a year the girl reveals that she once was a guy and she decided to get a sex change so he could date other guys.Are you gay? I'd say you'd be partly gay or something...
I guess it would be toward more of the "appearances don't matter, it's personality" debate.
Breasts? Feminine (sufficiently for your tastes) facial features? Vagina? A clitoris that doesn't fall off when rubbed?* If all the above apply, then I don't care if I really loved her. I don't want kids in my future, so ti works perfectly actually.
*happens with some SRS procedures
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Unsigned wrote...
Let's say a your a guy, which is most of you guys. And you have this girl that you love in which you spend ever waking moment together. After a year the girl reveals that she once was a guy and she decided to get a sex change so he could date other guys.Are you gay? I'd say you'd be partly gay or something...
I guess it would be toward more of the "appearances don't matter, it's personality" debate.
I wouldn't say that I was gay or partially gay because I had sex with what I thought was a real woman. I thought it was real, and the sex change operations try to make the changed body feel as real as possible.
I would dump the girl/man though. No two thoughts about it. Even if you put aside the whole "I really fucked a man" thing, the person still lied to you for a year. "I was born a man" is the sort of thing you tell a person before it gets serious. I'd prefer to know it before I even talked to the man/woman, honestly.
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ShaggyJebus wrote...
Unsigned wrote...
Let's say a your a guy, which is most of you guys. And you have this girl that you love in which you spend ever waking moment together. After a year the girl reveals that she once was a guy and she decided to get a sex change so he could date other guys.Are you gay? I'd say you'd be partly gay or something...
I guess it would be toward more of the "appearances don't matter, it's personality" debate.
I wouldn't say that I was gay or partially gay because I had sex with what I thought was a real woman. I thought it was real, and the sex change operations try to make the changed body feel as real as possible.
I would dump the girl/man though. No two thoughts about it. Even if you put aside the whole "I really fucked a man" thing, the person still lied to you for a year. "I was born a man" is the sort of thing you tell a person before it gets serious. I'd prefer to know it before I even talked to the man/woman, honestly.
This reminds me of Alice in Wonderland.
Alice didn't think that proved it at all: however she went on. "And how do you know that you're mad?"
"To begin with," said the Cat, "a dog's not mad. You grant that?"
"I suppose so," said Alice
"Well, then, " the Cat went on, "you see a dog growls when it's angry, and wags its tail when it's pleased. Now I growl when I'm pleased, and wag my tail when I'm angry. Therefore I'm mad."
also: gay's are fucking cool. AND NO, you can not be born gay. Whoever believes that is just an ignorant wanker.
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1) Gay is the term that homosexuals chose for themselves instead of other offensive terms that were being used for them
Also i think that most gays (bisexuals included) are born that way. I have quite a few friends that are Gay and they all say that they never thought of it as being wrong and always thought they were normal even thought they like people of the same gender.
If you decide to become gay for reasons other than you truly like those of the same gender you are an idiot
Also i think that most gays (bisexuals included) are born that way. I have quite a few friends that are Gay and they all say that they never thought of it as being wrong and always thought they were normal even thought they like people of the same gender.
If you decide to become gay for reasons other than you truly like those of the same gender you are an idiot
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Ebtesh wrote...
1) Gay is the term that homosexuals chose for themselves instead of other offensive terms that were being used for themAlso i think that most gays (bisexuals included) are born that way. I have quite a few friends that are Gay and they all say that they never thought of it as being wrong and always thought they were normal even thought they like people of the same gender.
If you decide to become gay for reasons other than you truly like those of the same gender you are an idiot
MILK is an awesome movie.
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I believe it to be partially personal choice, but let me clarify.
I believe it is due to demonic possesion, or more accurately, they are possesed by someone of the opposite gender. Now, it is personal choice because you must be willing to be possessed. But that can happen at an extremely early age. I believe this explains both the biological, and psychological 'causes' as 'symptoms', in fact I believe most anamolies/illness be they seemingly physical or mental, are caused by spiritual or mental changes/viruses. Yes I believe that there are mental and spiritual viruses too.
I do not consider spirits of the opposite gender a virus however, therefore it would be an anomaly not an illness.
Though, when it comes to the scriptures, unless you're into Satanism if you're religious more often than not if you believe your scriptures you believe that Sodomy (Acting upon Homosexuality) is a grave crime, and is punishable by death.
If you're not religious or are a Satanist, Then who gives a damn?
As for that hypothetical transsexual question, I would not have had intercourse unless I was married to them, and if I was married to them, they would share my beliefs, and if they did, then I would kill them, if they didn't, having lied to me for that long would have been fornication (root meaning of the word is to the effect of estrangement) And I would put them away, or once again fulfil the full measure of the law, and kill them for adultery.
Death isn't as bad as most mortals think though, and that would probably be more merciful since they could fully atone for it, and have a clear concience. Being therefore free to unite with someone else in the world to come.
I believe it is due to demonic possesion, or more accurately, they are possesed by someone of the opposite gender. Now, it is personal choice because you must be willing to be possessed. But that can happen at an extremely early age. I believe this explains both the biological, and psychological 'causes' as 'symptoms', in fact I believe most anamolies/illness be they seemingly physical or mental, are caused by spiritual or mental changes/viruses. Yes I believe that there are mental and spiritual viruses too.
I do not consider spirits of the opposite gender a virus however, therefore it would be an anomaly not an illness.
Though, when it comes to the scriptures, unless you're into Satanism if you're religious more often than not if you believe your scriptures you believe that Sodomy (Acting upon Homosexuality) is a grave crime, and is punishable by death.
If you're not religious or are a Satanist, Then who gives a damn?
As for that hypothetical transsexual question, I would not have had intercourse unless I was married to them, and if I was married to them, they would share my beliefs, and if they did, then I would kill them, if they didn't, having lied to me for that long would have been fornication (root meaning of the word is to the effect of estrangement) And I would put them away, or once again fulfil the full measure of the law, and kill them for adultery.
Death isn't as bad as most mortals think though, and that would probably be more merciful since they could fully atone for it, and have a clear concience. Being therefore free to unite with someone else in the world to come.
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Elouj wrote...
I believe it to be partially personal choice, but let me clarify.I believe it is due to demonic possesion, or more accurately, they are possesed by someone of the opposite gender. Now, it is personal choice because you must be willing to be possessed. But that can happen at an extremely early age. I believe this explains both the biological, and psychological 'causes' as 'symptoms', in fact I believe most anamolies/illness be they seemingly physical or mental, are caused by spiritual or mental changes/viruses. Yes I believe that there are mental and spiritual viruses too.
I do not consider spirits of the opposite gender a virus however, therefore it would be an anomaly not an illness.
Though, when it comes to the scriptures, unless you're into Satanism if you're religious more often than not if you believe your scriptures you believe that Sodomy (Acting upon Homosexuality) is a grave crime, and is punishable by death.
If you're not religious or are a Satanist, Then who gives a damn?
As for that hypothetical transsexual question, I would not have had intercourse unless I was married to them, and if I was married to them, they would share my beliefs, and if they did, then I would kill them, if they didn't, having lied to me for that long would have been fornication (root meaning of the word is to the effect of estrangement) And I would put them away, or once again fulfil the full measure of the law, and kill them for adultery.
Death isn't as bad as most mortals think though, and that would probably be more merciful since they could fully atone for it, and have a clear concience. Being therefore free to unite with someone else in the world to come.
Is this for real or a troll? I can't tell the difference anymore.
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This is actually one good question about developmental psychology from my point of view, I think that gay people choose to be that way, this is because each and everyone of our thinking are actually shaped by society, a very good example... when you were young like 5 ~ years old you saw an ad on the tv advertising about a toy and it kept on going for days and days then your neighbours bought it, then you think I must have it or else if will be an outcast.
Since a young child's ( age 4 and below) mind is rather pure without proper understanding of life, if he were to be brought up in a homosexual environment or lived with a female lifestyle there is a likelyhood that he will turn up homosexual. However, this is just a hypothesis thought out by me, I cant possibly try it out... if I did it to my cousin's kid and it actually worked, my cousin will seriously kill me - but I am tempted to test it :P
Since a young child's ( age 4 and below) mind is rather pure without proper understanding of life, if he were to be brought up in a homosexual environment or lived with a female lifestyle there is a likelyhood that he will turn up homosexual. However, this is just a hypothesis thought out by me, I cant possibly try it out... if I did it to my cousin's kid and it actually worked, my cousin will seriously kill me - but I am tempted to test it :P
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ShaggyJebus wrote...
Elouj wrote...
I believe it to be partially personal choice, but let me clarify.I believe it is due to demonic possesion, or more accurately, they are possesed by someone of the opposite gender. Now, it is personal choice because you must be willing to be possessed. But that can happen at an extremely early age. I believe this explains both the biological, and psychological 'causes' as 'symptoms', in fact I believe most anamolies/illness be they seemingly physical or mental, are caused by spiritual or mental changes/viruses. Yes I believe that there are mental and spiritual viruses too.
I do not consider spirits of the opposite gender a virus however, therefore it would be an anomaly not an illness.
Though, when it comes to the scriptures, unless you're into Satanism if you're religious more often than not if you believe your scriptures you believe that Sodomy (Acting upon Homosexuality) is a grave crime, and is punishable by death.
If you're not religious or are a Satanist, Then who gives a damn?
As for that hypothetical transsexual question, I would not have had intercourse unless I was married to them, and if I was married to them, they would share my beliefs, and if they did, then I would kill them, if they didn't, having lied to me for that long would have been fornication (root meaning of the word is to the effect of estrangement) And I would put them away, or once again fulfil the full measure of the law, and kill them for adultery.
Death isn't as bad as most mortals think though, and that would probably be more merciful since they could fully atone for it, and have a clear concience. Being therefore free to unite with someone else in the world to come.
Is this for real or a troll? I can't tell the difference anymore.
I really really hope it's real.
It's infinitely more interesting if it's a person who seriously holds these beliefs than if it's just someone making it up for lulz.
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Elouj wrote...
Well, I truly hold those beliefs, glad I could make your life more interesting.Hey, it's a good thing.
Nothing in life is worth a damn thing if it isn't interesting.
But that also probably means you are a crazy person.
I hope that it makes your life interesting.
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Elouj wrote...
Indeed it does.This gives you credit against being a troll, by the way. I think a troll would be eager to argue their sanity.
But that's not on topic.
It's possible that there is a genetic reason for homosexuality, but I really think it's basically irrelevant, because other people being gay doesn't really affect you, so you shouldn't care.
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Elouj wrote...
Here's a question, are hermaphradites heterosexual/homosexual? Or is it not applicable?For a hermaphrodite, being homosexual would mean an attraction to other hermaphrodites. I guess they can go both ways and the people who would care would consider them abominations anyway and everyone else doesn't give a shit.