Homosexuals

A quick google search has lead to mix results. One study says children become flawed. Another say's they are perfectly fine. Another says that the children develop more empathy to social diversity, another says single parent homes are better for the child's development.

Study 1

Study 2

Study 1 claims that children of gay parents have minor advantages over heterosexual parents.

Study 2 claims



Another article which spoke of an unlinked study said that boy of lesbian parents were less aggressive and more nurturing while girls were more likely to have higher pursuits (doctor, lawyer, astronaut,etc). I can sort of see how people can claime that gay parents affects the child in a negative way. Society, especially older people want boys to be masculine and wants girls to be more feminine.



They believe gays would get hitched not because they love one another but, because they'd get legal benefits they otherwise wouldn't have had being single. Married couples currently enjoy the benefits of lower payments, taxes,etc because the household is considered more stable and various other factors. So people would get hitched for tax breaks (from filing jointly instead of individually), lower payments, etc.



Waiting on the day we legalize 2-d marriage...and polygamy. What?? Don't look at me like I'm crazy!

I want to say that American society in general is not homophobic, but when I think of television, I have to stop and wonder.

The first big gay thing in television was Queer Eye for the Straight Guy, which was a pretty stereotypical representation of homosexuals. Sure, the guys may have actually be gay and acting the way they normally did, but the fact that the most prominent representation of homosexuality on TV was similar to how many homophobes see gay men speaks wonders.

Since then, TV's attitude towards homosexuals hasn't changed much. There isn't a lot of negativity, but there isn't a lot of positivity either. It's more like, there are gay characters, so that's enough. A segment of Current TV's show Infomania points out a lot of tropes involving homosexuals; the segment, called That's Gay, talks about how whenever a woman on a show is in trouble, there's always a gay man nearby to make her feel better, by taking her shopping or dancing, for just one example. (You can probably find videos of the segment on YouTube or Current.com.)

I can think of a good number of gay TV characters, but I can only think of two or three positive characters, that were well-defined and just happened to be gay. That seems like a problem.

Then again, other people can qualify for head of the house hold and get a $8,350 standard deduction while still filing individually, but that's neither here nor there. I mentioned to HE that this argument is complete shit, hence his edit.

I'll just quote what I told him:

QFT

At least Iowa legalized gay marriage... ;3

I'm just repeating the argument for the sake of discussion. The only argument they have that I lend any credit to is the affect on children from gay parents. I find the studies are all too easy to contaminate with political bias. I want to believe that children from gay parents turn out mentally and emotionally stable. I need to see more studies before I can make a judgment.

Yeah they are

becoming known with certain people and then becoming looked down thinking that you are one of them also?

lots of people are like that nowadays.

I believe I heard at a convention panel that a guy somewhere married the dating sim cartridge in his Game Boy.



I bolded what I wanted to talk about, but I wasn't sure from the rest of this post if it was sarcastic or not. I think the path to getting a group accepted is not being self-righteous about it; I can't blame a person for staying a homophobe if they're made to feel bad about it, which brings me to my two cents...

Have any of you ever met a person, there's not really a proper term for them, so I'll call them homo-hipsters. The vast, vast majority of them are girls, and:
* They take any opportunity to chew out absolutely any person who utters the word "faggot" in their presence, regardless of context (I think words only hurt when they're meant to, using the word fag in casual conversation ain't kosher, but it's not heresy)
* They like to flaunt their homosexuality, as if to show the world how mature they are and how liking people of the same sex makes them unique.
They always picked on me in high school, because I speak impulsively and vulgarly, put my foot in my mouth, and nothing makes them happier than to take me down a notch. I hate every last one of them.

If you're reading this and what I just described corresponds to you, please stop, immediately. You're worse than homophobic bullies, if anything you spawn them; you create discordance between gays and non-gays.

I think that Homosexuality is wrong but it seems to have been around since the dawn of time. (If theres a hole its gonna get fucked)

Anyway your gonna do what your gonna do but im not gonna fight for your right to take it up the arse.

If someone clamps down on gays in the future then im just gonna skip to the sidelines grab some popcorn and watch the hate unfold.

Ive been in the company of Homosexuals (Knowingly) about 5 times in my life and most of those times (4-5 times) it was uncomfortable in the extreme, I try explaining to them that im not gay and to not hang all over me but most of the time their pretty agressive and predatory in their search for some ass.

Now I kind of know how women feel when some dribbling pervert starts licking their earlobes in a club or those cheap ass gropers in pubs!

Just NO!

(I know a lot of my views are negative but all ive really had are negative experiences so...) :(

I think porn may actually have had a positive influence on public opinion of lesbians. Almost every person watches porn, whether they admit it or not. A great number of porn-watchers (mostly men) enjoy lesbian porn. Being turned on by lesbians leads to liking them, which leads to respect. Most men around where I live accept lesbians. Girls, however, are more conservative. I sometimes hear foolish remarks (said by females) like, "Eww, if I heard someone I know at the gym was a lesbian, I would stop going there so she wouldn't see me changing!".

This could be because fewer girls watch porn, or at least admit to it. I'm sure the percentage of female porn-watchers who are aroused by lesbian porn is lower than that of the males, too.

On the other hand, gay porn is not nearly as popular as lesbian porn. Fewer people being turned on by gays = fewer people who like gays = fewer people who accept gays. I know a lot of people who almost idolize lesbians, but are still closed-minded and homophobic when it comes to the male homosexuals. Of course more than just porn affects how people feel about the subject, but I think that may have been a contributing factor.

to be honest, i was always mislead by this conversation.

why can't men and women be satisfied with simple friendship - like brothers or sisters and such?
why do they have to advance it into a romantic relationship?

if it's about fucking each other then i can only say these people are not satisfied with normal sex.

I did not want to fuck my best friend even if we planned on traveling across the continent with each other, hence together through joys and troubles.

"feminine side" in men is just bullshit, covering their mental disorder. I say it cuz this movement appeared not so long ago, compared to the traditional one when the majority of people (our grand fatheres and motheres) didn't even know such things.

sexual revolution is not a revolution at all - it's a massive debauchery of freaks and as time passes people get accustomed to it. and when people get accustomed to something - they start to think it's an avarage phenomena => norm.
so it is no surprise that in US, a country of freedom and equal rights to all minorities this is becoming as such.

in here it's a rare thing to hear about homosexuals. only mtv and a couple of other celebrity shows promote this fashion faggotry, the rest don't even speak about it. the nation's mentality is as straight as my cock in terms of sexual pleasures: ya can do anything with your girl but gays and bis are dispised.

well, if it is not about sexual desire then why are they called gays and bis?

I never said sexual desire. I said dissatisfaction.

Is heterosexuality a conscious choice? No. Neither is homosexuality.

ya want to say they were born as gays and bis?

I'm not saying anything on whether or not they're gay from birth. I believe that although you can't decide your sexuality, major personality changes/traumatic incidents/massive outside pressure could lead to a repression (not eradication) of homosexual feelings or cause them to appear, or to be fully realized.

My point is, you don't wake up and say, "I'm going to make out with boys today!" and then decide you're straight the next day. People can't choose who they fall in love with -- I think for almost every person, there has been a time in their life where they have fallen for the wrong person. Straight, gay, or bi. In middle school, I had a thing for Star Jock Boy, while I was a little nerdy girl who wrote stories in the corner. That obviously wasn't going to lead to anything, and it would have been far better if I had fallen for a boy of the same social status. I didn't choose to like him, and I couldn't stop myself.

This is the case for many gay people. They hate themselves for being gay, strongly wish to become straight, force themselves into having heterosexual sex or abstaining from gay sex, but in the end: they're gay. They didn't choose it. They can't change it, can't completely erase their feelings. The most they can do is suppress them.

For all of your conspiracy theories I've yet to see you prove what is "normal." What makes being straight more normal? Don't give me the "penis in vagina" routine either. That doesn't mean that other sexual preferences aren't normal.

If that were the case we wouldn't see homosexuality in other creatures either. I too don't believe that it is genetically implanted by birth, at least not the whole situation. It is more a personal choice, but it disgusts me when people think that can't be a normal choice.

So I'm a disgusting creature because I'm sexually attracted to men and women? I'm just a promiscuous man-whore who wants sex with everyone?

The bottom line is why do people like you get to make the choice? Don't like it? Fine, I don't really care, but what gives you the right to stop me from openly being bisexual?

hmmm, interesting way to look at things.


sorry lass, but it is the main point where your thoughts start to deviate.


the thing is people can learn to understand these things and endure/settle them, without giving in.


ah, this sounds just like repressing my desire to fap But ya're confusing fap with fetish - confusing your "desire to rub your dick/pussy and have an orgasm" with "in what manner/circumstance/place/with whom to rub it" - confusing your physical senses with mental desires.

You are repressing your urge to Fuck (no matter in what manner). And you have attained certainty in your penchant (gay/etc), manner of arousal (fetish) in which ya achieve orgasm. But people tend to change their preferences. it doesn't mean they start hating their previous fetishes, no. They just don't seem to be satisfied with em anymore and start experimenting other ways. It is not like you are a constant gay, lesbian, or something. And here's the biggest mis take they make -

- They think they have realized their "true" selves. FUCK THAT. Why don't gays start fucking chicks? Because of some mental experience? It sounds just like "why do people hate spiders or deep water?" Because of some mental experience. well, it's just a delusion. I almost drowned once and was overrun by spiders but i do not suffer from it, still i drink water and walk over em.

All children from birth tend to mother's tits, not father's. So experience is what makes you gay. But you know that Experience is a great thing and you can change your mindset (hence understanding, sufferings, desires, aspirations, sexual preferences and etc.) from one state to another due to it. When you were ten you liked one things. When you are thirty
you changed your passions.



this paragraph is about your singlesided experience. But it is not the end of your knowledge income, is it? Read some wisdom books and see through your desires or something.

"fall in love"? family members love each other, sisters love sisters, brothers love brothers. Friends feel affection. And it all goes without sexual desire. But if you are speaking of romantic relationship - then sexual desire is one of the main elements here. That's why it is called straight, gay, bi, etc.


Now, the bold text is bullshit. If they want to fuck each other then they are only being ashamed of their pervert side infront of others. If a man feels affaction for another man it doesn't mean they have to have sex. BROS. RESPECT. CARE. DEVOUTION. not all goes to sex.

and the other unbold half looks like an excuse. If ya didn't understand it - read this again.


You know that at first society was lead by natural ways of breeding.
And the term "normal" is for what is considered acceptable for the majority of humankind. So normal means usual for majority. Only in the last century people started gaining variety in thinking and doings.

Really? Just really? You became scared of homosexuals? No no, in this case, I don't think you were scared of homosexuals and homosexuality, I think you just hated being put down. Anyone can do that. Not just homosexuals. So I don't believe you're a homophobe, and also, to everyone else: I don't believe the correct term is "homophobic", I believe it's, "pissed at homosexuals". There's a different between fear and anger.



I'll give you what's normal. "Normal" human beings should have the urge to breed offspring. So if you're not doing your fucking job as a human being to breed more of us, there's something wrong with you. Other sexual preferences are indeed not "normal". Blowjobs used to be considered heresy, but now they're practically standard in any porno. (Haha, silly weirdos, food goes down there, not dicks and sperm!)



Homosexuality in other creatures are exceptions. There will always be exceptions. Also, sexual preference is genetically implanted by birth, because breeding offspring is in your DNA. I do believe people can go against this and choose to be homosexual. In that case, your choice better be worth it. People that were born naturally favoring their own sex, however, were born wrong. They might have received too much estrogen or something.



Sexually attracted to women, A-OK. Wanting to just have sex with everyone, A-OK in my book. Sexually attracted to men, not OK. And of course we don't get to make your choices for you. But just know that your actions can piss people off. Personally, I don't really care about anyone's sexuality.