Men Against Women?
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Traumacrazy wrote...
Too many pussy-whipped "men" in here.Why dont you just go on home and beat your sister, Its her fault your gay right?
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xRONNI3x wrote...
Traumacrazy wrote...
Too many pussy-whipped "men" in here.Why dont you just go on home and beat your sister, Its her fault your gay right?
OOOOH shit is going down.
OP get back in the kitchen and help your okaasan instead of being a massive faggot.
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Cruz
Dope Stone Lion
xRONNI3x wrote...
Traumacrazy wrote...
Too many pussy-whipped "men" in here.Why dont you just go on home and beat your sister, Its her fault your gay right?
Wow your such an awesome guy Ronnie, make assumptions about someone and then call them gay right. Totally helps prove your point.
Although I wouldn't word it like Traumacrazy, in a way I do agree. Media love to pull the whole anti men thing, many times without validation. Just because I agree that man shouldn't be pussy whipped doesn't mean I promote violence against anyone.
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The way I see it, taking any sort of overall lesson or understanding from Xbox Live isn't something anyone should do in the first place.
But moreso on the topic, I'll give my personal beliefs. I, for one, can admit that I absolutely can't stand women in a nearly sadistic manner, simply based on the facts and statistics I know about women, as well as seeing these things as true when observing women in my life. I find it absolutely ludicrous that if ever under any circumstance you hit a girl, you're automatically a coward. Point blank period. This "moral" has never made any logical sense to me, and I figured people only think this because their parents thought it when they were kids because their parents taught it to them because their parents...and so on and so forth. It's one of those many "mores" that we live by today, without any real rational thought.
Me personally, my mother taught me that if someone is man enough to hit me, they're man enough for me to hit them back. It's gotten to the point that a woman may act like a complete savage, just because everyone told her as a little girl "Boys aren't supposed to hit girls!", which she now uses to her advantage. I've seen this so many times that I've stopped paying much attention to it. People act like if you even admit you'd hit a girl, that means you beat your girlfriend/sister/mother/peers/etc. I like to treat people equally, so I must admit that if you hit me in an overly hostile manner, I'll first tell you to stop, only being as threatening as the situation calls for; but after you persist, with the belief that "Oh I'm totally safe because I'm a girl!", then that will probably be the last thought to go through your mind before you're suddenly unconscious.
And let's get something straight here: I have female friends. I'm not some vicious monster that goes around angrily grabbing women by the hair and slamming them against the wall. I've even discussed with my female friends my views on women and why I hate them, which amazingly enough, 100% of them can agree with me, and can even admit to doing some of the actions I absolutely can't stand, or have witnessed it themselves. Reason being, I always have facts and/or statistics, as well as multiple examples I could pull from the nearest woman to me.
As for how I treat my women, I treat them how I treat everyone else. I start with complete kindness, and then slowly make myself compatible with them in key categories, because I hate for anyone to feel awkward or left out. I don't do this to "get ass", mind you. I find sex to be a meaningless drug that makes you dependent and of lesser intelligence, just as I find marriage to be a 0-4 year money waster as your happiness is drained along with your wallet and sanity. I don't immediately shun each and every woman that talks to me, because I believe you can be friends with anyone as long as you act friendly towards them, which hasn't been unproven to me thus far.
I think more men are enslaved than women. I'm tired of seeing my male friends get married, and then be ridiculously miserable a year or so later. Even the ones that you could swear they were destined to be together or whatever hogwash people come up with these days. Observing things like these is what made me realize that love is just a fantasy that in real life is almost entirely based on artificial means to keep it going, then it falls apart when the resources run out. There is no such thing as unconditional love. Saying "Hey, make me a sandwich" is basically just a meme, and doesn't really mean that -all- men are going around chaining their girlfriends to the kitchen stove or whatever. It's just internet behavior for the most part. The whole idea of saying what you want because you're protected by distance. In the relationships you do see where the woman is used and abused or whatever, it's almost hard to believe she didn't already know what she was getting into, and didn't really understand the guy's intentions at all before getting into the mess.
To me, women are not humans. They are monsters who drain your happiness with their constant barrage of irrational emotions that cause them to do actions that are completely illogical, while using the excuse that "Oh well I'm on my period!" as a means of being a complete non-sociable bitch to everyone. You can choose not to give birth. They give birth because they -can- give birth. Males cannot. If males could give birth instead of women, then it'd be that way just because it's how it's designed. It doesn't make them better or worse than anyone else. I'd like you to name the "other shit" they deal with, too. I -wish- all guys have to do is worry about how much ass they're getting. No, they have to make sure they have a developed career, build enough of a salary to be able to support a family, and when the time comes, support a family. Along with paying bills, fixing things, being absolutely sure that the woman he's about to marry won't destroy his sanity and take more than half of the things she didn't earn, and other things men stereotypically have to do. If you compare facts and put everything together, women have it leaps and bounds easier than men. Hell, not too long ago, the only real thing that had to put effort into was finding a wealthy husband.
But something I would like someone to tell me, really and truly and honestly, where does the "coward" factor come in when you're hitting a girl? Or do those that believe it, just blindly believe it because it was constantly pounded into their heads while they were growing up?
But moreso on the topic, I'll give my personal beliefs. I, for one, can admit that I absolutely can't stand women in a nearly sadistic manner, simply based on the facts and statistics I know about women, as well as seeing these things as true when observing women in my life. I find it absolutely ludicrous that if ever under any circumstance you hit a girl, you're automatically a coward. Point blank period. This "moral" has never made any logical sense to me, and I figured people only think this because their parents thought it when they were kids because their parents taught it to them because their parents...and so on and so forth. It's one of those many "mores" that we live by today, without any real rational thought.
Me personally, my mother taught me that if someone is man enough to hit me, they're man enough for me to hit them back. It's gotten to the point that a woman may act like a complete savage, just because everyone told her as a little girl "Boys aren't supposed to hit girls!", which she now uses to her advantage. I've seen this so many times that I've stopped paying much attention to it. People act like if you even admit you'd hit a girl, that means you beat your girlfriend/sister/mother/peers/etc. I like to treat people equally, so I must admit that if you hit me in an overly hostile manner, I'll first tell you to stop, only being as threatening as the situation calls for; but after you persist, with the belief that "Oh I'm totally safe because I'm a girl!", then that will probably be the last thought to go through your mind before you're suddenly unconscious.
And let's get something straight here: I have female friends. I'm not some vicious monster that goes around angrily grabbing women by the hair and slamming them against the wall. I've even discussed with my female friends my views on women and why I hate them, which amazingly enough, 100% of them can agree with me, and can even admit to doing some of the actions I absolutely can't stand, or have witnessed it themselves. Reason being, I always have facts and/or statistics, as well as multiple examples I could pull from the nearest woman to me.
As for how I treat my women, I treat them how I treat everyone else. I start with complete kindness, and then slowly make myself compatible with them in key categories, because I hate for anyone to feel awkward or left out. I don't do this to "get ass", mind you. I find sex to be a meaningless drug that makes you dependent and of lesser intelligence, just as I find marriage to be a 0-4 year money waster as your happiness is drained along with your wallet and sanity. I don't immediately shun each and every woman that talks to me, because I believe you can be friends with anyone as long as you act friendly towards them, which hasn't been unproven to me thus far.
I think more men are enslaved than women. I'm tired of seeing my male friends get married, and then be ridiculously miserable a year or so later. Even the ones that you could swear they were destined to be together or whatever hogwash people come up with these days. Observing things like these is what made me realize that love is just a fantasy that in real life is almost entirely based on artificial means to keep it going, then it falls apart when the resources run out. There is no such thing as unconditional love. Saying "Hey, make me a sandwich" is basically just a meme, and doesn't really mean that -all- men are going around chaining their girlfriends to the kitchen stove or whatever. It's just internet behavior for the most part. The whole idea of saying what you want because you're protected by distance. In the relationships you do see where the woman is used and abused or whatever, it's almost hard to believe she didn't already know what she was getting into, and didn't really understand the guy's intentions at all before getting into the mess.
To me, women are not humans. They are monsters who drain your happiness with their constant barrage of irrational emotions that cause them to do actions that are completely illogical, while using the excuse that "Oh well I'm on my period!" as a means of being a complete non-sociable bitch to everyone. You can choose not to give birth. They give birth because they -can- give birth. Males cannot. If males could give birth instead of women, then it'd be that way just because it's how it's designed. It doesn't make them better or worse than anyone else. I'd like you to name the "other shit" they deal with, too. I -wish- all guys have to do is worry about how much ass they're getting. No, they have to make sure they have a developed career, build enough of a salary to be able to support a family, and when the time comes, support a family. Along with paying bills, fixing things, being absolutely sure that the woman he's about to marry won't destroy his sanity and take more than half of the things she didn't earn, and other things men stereotypically have to do. If you compare facts and put everything together, women have it leaps and bounds easier than men. Hell, not too long ago, the only real thing that had to put effort into was finding a wealthy husband.
But something I would like someone to tell me, really and truly and honestly, where does the "coward" factor come in when you're hitting a girl? Or do those that believe it, just blindly believe it because it was constantly pounded into their heads while they were growing up?
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xRONNI3x wrote...
Traumacrazy wrote...
Too many pussy-whipped "men" in here.Why dont you just go on home and beat your sister, Its her fault your gay right?
Calm down, calm down. Where did I say I promoted violence against anyone? I don't see it. I think this is what we call an ASSumption. Violence is wrong, Self-defense is not. A woman hits you? Hit her back!
"But hitting women is wrong!"
I guess she should keep her hands to herself then.
Its her fault your gay right?
Not just her. Plenty of women have turned me the other way. And let me tell you, not having to deal with women's emotionsfromhell is pure bliss.
And while my half-sis does need a beating for being the snobby little womyn that she is, I'll leave it up to the parents(even though they won't do anything. Parents these days...)
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Men, I heard men were mutated women, you see. You are not that stupid I think to spark up such topics. And it's true, men are mutated women.
Oda Nobunaga hates b-day hats.
Oda Nobunaga hates b-day hats.
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axtronoid21 wrote...
Men, I heard men were mutated women, you see. You are not that stupid I think to spark up such topics. And it's true, men are mutated women.it's the chromosomes. women are XX, men are XY. the Y is an incomplete X.
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Mr.Shaggnificent wrote...
axtronoid21 wrote...
Men, I heard men were mutated women, you see. You are not that stupid I think to spark up such topics. And it's true, men are mutated women.it's the chromosomes. women are XX, men are XY. the Y is an incomplete X.
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axtronoid21 wrote...
Mr.Shaggnificent wrote...
axtronoid21 wrote...
Men, I heard men were mutated women, you see. You are not that stupid I think to spark up such topics. And it's true, men are mutated women.it's the chromosomes. women are XX, men are XY. the Y is an incomplete X.
I apologize, i should not have presumed to know what you were alluding to. i inferred from your vague and awkward phrasing that you were relaying second hand information and were unsure of the details. the chromosome bit was used against me by a friend of mine to win an arguement that arose from her declaration that women were superior. she also mentioned that men were mutated women, that's what reminded me of chromosomes.
no need to "clairify more points later", i too saw Jurassic Park.
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Some of it is the whole Man is better than Woman war, that has been going around since the start of time,
I seriously dont give one whos better than me and what sex they are, all i know is if theyre better than me...than thats what they are, no need to go on about it
Its Fact that more men are born physically stronger than women (Not all though), and everyone is born equally in terms of intellgiance, its just that women tend to have more of s logical view of everything compared to mans normal more impatient view ;)
Did you know the two highest IQ's ever recorded are by women?
Women get alot of slack fo rthe main reason that this is a male run world, that's it...its as basic as that. I cant change it nor can anyone else really.
All men will secretly harbour secret feelings of superiority towards women and vice versa, its what makes life more intresting.
And to be honest the whole 'Make me a sandwiche' thing is probaly a joke, cus i know if i said that to any woman i know, she would immediatly beat the lving shit out of me...and for good reason as well xD
I seriously dont give one whos better than me and what sex they are, all i know is if theyre better than me...than thats what they are, no need to go on about it
Its Fact that more men are born physically stronger than women (Not all though), and everyone is born equally in terms of intellgiance, its just that women tend to have more of s logical view of everything compared to mans normal more impatient view ;)
Did you know the two highest IQ's ever recorded are by women?
Women get alot of slack fo rthe main reason that this is a male run world, that's it...its as basic as that. I cant change it nor can anyone else really.
All men will secretly harbour secret feelings of superiority towards women and vice versa, its what makes life more intresting.
And to be honest the whole 'Make me a sandwiche' thing is probaly a joke, cus i know if i said that to any woman i know, she would immediatly beat the lving shit out of me...and for good reason as well xD
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To me, doing such things toward women is horrible.I am a guy but in my opinion,
men who wants to show manliness is the man that protects women, not doing horrible things
toward them.
men who wants to show manliness is the man that protects women, not doing horrible things
toward them.
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i treat women with respect if they treat me with respect if they dont treat me with respect and think they are better then ill get irritated.
i think women and men are equel even so i dont mind it if men are the boss again. :S
i think women and men are equel even so i dont mind it if men are the boss again. :S
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xRONNI3x wrote...
Ok so my question is, Why do some men treat women like shit? I feel that some men treat women like shit, because they are insecure, and they never grew up learning how to give respect to anyone. I feel sorry for any woman that has to go through this kind of treatment from men.
xRONNI3x wrote...
They are humans just like us and dont need to be treated like dirt under our feet.I mean they have it so hard, dealing with PMS, Birth, and other shit and all we guys have is to worry about how much ass we are getting.
I agree. Women are humans, like everyone else. Sometimes I even think that women are superior in some ways. For one, pain tolerance. I've had a lot of pain in my life, but I bet it's no where NEAR that a woman feels during childbirth. Us men are lucky and have it easy.
xRONNI3x wrote...
So i was playing Xbox live and this guy was telling this grow women to shut the hell up, and make him a sandwich, and saying for her not to speak when he is talking.It is unfortunate that that happened, but it is a fairly common occurrence. I always wonder how some women would even go out with a person like that, if they knew about him being that way. It also, unfortunately, turns into an abusive relationship, in which the woman has very little freedom, and an even smaller chance of escaping it.
xRONNI3x wrote...
I am a man, but i do not treat women like the are only good for one thing so why do you mean treat women like shit? Do they deserve it? Why?No person, no matter who they are (sex, religion, color, etc.), deserves to be abused. I pray that one day we may be able to move past this barbaric behavior, but I'm sure that it won't happen in my life.
xRONNI3x wrote...
How do you treat your women?To be honest, I treat women with more respect than I do men. The first reason, is as I stated above. The second, is because I kinda fear women, to some degree. I just fear that initial conversation, how to start it and keep it going.
xRONNI3x wrote...
Do you think treating them like slaves is ok? If so then why?Absolutely not. Treating anyone like a slave is absurd, and against the law.
xRONNI3x wrote...
They are humans just like us.Only a true fucking coward would hit and or treat a women wrong in anyway.
Im just stating me honest opinion.
Then we share the same opinion.
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luvyduv wrote...
Girls are delicate and fragile, and that's a feminine virtue. Sure there are some who are more independent and more tough but wear'e all women in the inside. Its a man's duty to love, respect, and protect a woman. Not to harass and degrade them, I mean what happen to the code of chivalry. There's a myth that nice guys finish last, but trust me that isn't true at all. All women appreciate kindness and value from a man.
To touch upon douchebaggery and chivalry, along with relationships.
One reason a lot of guys are douchebags is because they know they give themselves confidence to "score." I think women will go after douchey guys when all they want is material gain and/or intercourse. On the other hand, there are guys like most of the people in this thread who, while being nice to women, might not get that short-term gain that the assholes do. This is because when a woman sees someone who is ACTUALLY nice, therein lies a possibility of a relationship longer than just a one night stand. This puts ACTUAL EMOTIONS other than lust in the ballpark, and suddenly scoring becomes less of an issue and the focus of the nice guy turns to pleasing his sweetheart and developing their bond.
How does this relate to men treating women poorly? Those douchebags give nice guys a bad name because so many guys rely on BEING douchebags to get women instead of waiting for a bit longer and finding someone special. It's quite sad really...
Then again, as stated earlier, I don't treat ANYONE with respect who doesn't give me some in return. Still, that doesn't mean I go around being a douchebag. I simply ignore them...
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Title was a little misleading, but from what the OP is asking, I'm thinking that the question is, "Why do Men treat Women badly?"
Of course, it's been stated many times before, insecurity, bad or no morals, etc.
As for the matter of how I treat women?
Women I know personally are treated the same way as Men I know personally. If I don't know them, I treat them with respect unless I have a reason to treat them otherwise.
Of course, it's been stated many times before, insecurity, bad or no morals, etc.
As for the matter of how I treat women?
Women I know personally are treated the same way as Men I know personally. If I don't know them, I treat them with respect unless I have a reason to treat them otherwise.
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I suppose some men just do it for the fun, while others really think women are of a lower level than they are. Such as those in Japan and China...
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yurixhentai
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Women do not deserve to be discriminated because they are female; they deserve the same amount of respect as men receive, unless they act in such a way that deserves some sort of reaction, which is also true of men - if anyone acts with a kind of hostility or hatred towards anyone, unless it's a reaction to another person's unacceptable actions, then they should expect negativity.
Gender roles are a thing of the past in such a way that now in a lot of countries we can choose who or what we want to be - we can, as it were, create ourselves: if a man wants to be more feminine he can be, vice versa.
I do feel that women should be more embraced than men due to this unfortunately existing gender hierarchy. They do not deserved to be treated like shit just because they are female, and anyone who thinks they should is a moron.
Gender roles are a thing of the past in such a way that now in a lot of countries we can choose who or what we want to be - we can, as it were, create ourselves: if a man wants to be more feminine he can be, vice versa.
I do feel that women should be more embraced than men due to this unfortunately existing gender hierarchy. They do not deserved to be treated like shit just because they are female, and anyone who thinks they should is a moron.
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I think I'll be hated for this, but when I speak I tend to speak my mind.
I agree with the general consensus that mistreating women is unacceptable. Women aren't tools, nor they are witches or bull$h!t like that. They are human beings and they deserve as much respect as men do, if not more. However, I also dislike when this way of thinking becomes excessive, that is - men are not animals, they aren't slavers or rapists or b@stards because they are men. Every single one of us is a human being with his/her virtues and his/her faults, so no one can say that "men are perfect" or "women are perfect". The sad thing is, there will always be men who think they're the masters because of some stupid reason - religion, social status, and so on. But there will always be women who think that men are devils in disguise just because they are men, and nothing else.
There, I said it. =_=
I agree with the general consensus that mistreating women is unacceptable. Women aren't tools, nor they are witches or bull$h!t like that. They are human beings and they deserve as much respect as men do, if not more. However, I also dislike when this way of thinking becomes excessive, that is - men are not animals, they aren't slavers or rapists or b@stards because they are men. Every single one of us is a human being with his/her virtues and his/her faults, so no one can say that "men are perfect" or "women are perfect". The sad thing is, there will always be men who think they're the masters because of some stupid reason - religion, social status, and so on. But there will always be women who think that men are devils in disguise just because they are men, and nothing else.
There, I said it. =_=