prolife vs prochoice
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@Circe: I hear what you're saying, and you are right, those women should have at least had sex in a responsible way.
btw, on this note, i found some interesting statistics from Abort73.com
here are some on point:
ABORTION AND CONTRACEPTION
Induced abortions usually result from unintended pregnancies, which often occur despite the use of contraception (CDC).
54% of women having abortions used a contraceptive method during the month they became pregnant. Among those women, 76% of pill users and 49% of condom users reported using the methods inconsistently, while 13% of pill users and 14% of condom users reported correct use (AGI).
8% of women having abortions have never used a method of birth control (AGI).
9 in 10 women at risk of unintended pregnancy are using a contraceptive method (AGI).
btw, on this note, i found some interesting statistics from Abort73.com
here are some on point:
ABORTION AND CONTRACEPTION
Induced abortions usually result from unintended pregnancies, which often occur despite the use of contraception (CDC).
54% of women having abortions used a contraceptive method during the month they became pregnant. Among those women, 76% of pill users and 49% of condom users reported using the methods inconsistently, while 13% of pill users and 14% of condom users reported correct use (AGI).
8% of women having abortions have never used a method of birth control (AGI).
9 in 10 women at risk of unintended pregnancy are using a contraceptive method (AGI).
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animefreak_usa
Child of Samael
kgods wrote...
Pro-choice"The giving and taking of life will always be... altering the future"
you have a great career in bumper stickers
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NEXUS
Since 2010
I don't know how this is possible but I am for both. I don't agree or disagree with any of them.
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animefreak_usa wrote...
kgods wrote...
Pro-choice"The giving and taking of life will always be... altering the future"
you have a great career in bumper stickers
kgods sued for lyrical theft from one of his favourite bands.
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Circe wrote...
I get kind of >:| about this topic.I have no sympathy for women who get knocked up and then cry about how miserable they are and why is this happening to them. You spread your legs unprotected, you deal with the consequences.
However, while I may not condone the way you got to the "DO NOT WANT BABY" stage, it's also your choice how to deal with it.
If someone asked me, I would say I'm pro-choice. But I don't support either side. Like someone said before, I'm pro-responsibility. Pregnancy is preventable, so either don't be a stupid bitch or don't complain.
As for me, I'm not stupid enough to get pregnant unless I'm ready. End of story. But I will not keep rape baby. The miracle of pregnancy is also a choice, and that is a baby I can't live with.
>:|
Anger topic. When I see girls crying about how their life is over because they got (non-rape) pregnant, I want to abort them, instead of the child.
so now there is 3 side. Pro choice, Pro life, Pro responsibilty, and I would go with pro responbility. rape is problem, we deal with it first. the aftermath take care the mother. keep the baby alive, give the mother a new life, if possible a new record. tough a lot amount of money is needed for that
and for pro choice fuck off. you will be cowards forever!
oh ya in my country most of abortion is forced by man. shit I realy hate this kind of guy. my bestfriend is doctor and he had many case of this. His advice if one of this Sonovabitch try to befriend with my little sister. Kill him
Oh by the way $ 18,000 is too much. if is converted on Rupiah it would Rp 164,700,000. damn what a lucky bastard. the cost to raise the baby is only $1,400 annualy. Im on Indonesia Man! REPUBLIC of INDONESIA
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animefreak_usa
Child of Samael
mesumguy wrote...
Circe wrote...
I get kind of >:| about this topic.I have no sympathy for women who get knocked up and then cry about how miserable they are and why is this happening to them. You spread your legs unprotected, you deal with the consequences.
However, while I may not condone the way you got to the "DO NOT WANT BABY" stage, it's also your choice how to deal with it.
If someone asked me, I would say I'm pro-choice. But I don't support either side. Like someone said before, I'm pro-responsibility. Pregnancy is preventable, so either don't be a stupid bitch or don't complain.
As for me, I'm not stupid enough to get pregnant unless I'm ready. End of story. But I will not keep rape baby. The miracle of pregnancy is also a choice, and that is a baby I can't live with.
>:|
Anger topic. When I see girls crying about how their life is over because they got (non-rape) pregnant, I want to abort them, instead of the child.
so now there is 3 side. Pro choice, Pro life, Pro responsibilty, and I would go with pro responbility. rape is problem, we deal with it first. the aftermath take care the mother. keep the baby alive, give the mother a new life, if possible a new record. tough a lot amount of money is needed for that
and for pro choice fuck off. you will be cowards forever!
oh ya in my country most of abortion is forced by man. shit I realy hate this kind of guy. my bestfriend is doctor and he had many case of this. His advice if one of this Sonovabitch try to befriend with my little sister. Kill him
Oh by the way $ 18,000 is too much. if is converted on Rupiah it would Rp 164,700,000. damn what a lucky bastard. the cost to raise the baby is only $1,400 annualy. Im on Indonesia Man! REPUBLIC of INDONESIA
falcon punch--- free
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Clothes hangars are pretty easy to acquire as well. But in all seriousness, a certain amount of responsibility should be taken. However, I don't think it's my business what a woman does with her body, especially if I'm not involved in anyway.
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kgods wrote...
Clothes hangars are pretty easy to acquire as well. But in all seriousness, a certain amount of responsibility should be taken. However, I don't think it's my business what a woman does with her body, especially if I'm not involved in anyway.What he said. If you cannot own up to these responsibilities, why are you fathering/mothering children?
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mesumguy wrote...
Circe wrote...
I get kind of >:| about this topic.I have no sympathy for women who get knocked up and then cry about how miserable they are and why is this happening to them. You spread your legs unprotected, you deal with the consequences.
However, while I may not condone the way you got to the "DO NOT WANT BABY" stage, it's also your choice how to deal with it.
If someone asked me, I would say I'm pro-choice. But I don't support either side. Like someone said before, I'm pro-responsibility. Pregnancy is preventable, so either don't be a stupid bitch or don't complain.
so now there is 3 side. Pro choice, Pro life, Pro responsibilty
just to clarify, how is pro responsibility a position though? i don't think anyone is saying that people shouldn't have sex in a responsible way at all and the statistics i gave suggest that in fact, most women do try to have sex in a responsible way. only 8% of women that get abortions don't use some form of contraception and this is coming from a pro-life site. the real question though is whether once a women finds out she is pregnant, whether she should be allowed to get an abortion or carry it to term. i don't think there is a right answer, only a balancing of interests, which is essentially what we have now.
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animefreak_usa
Child of Samael
Fi wrote...
mesumguy wrote...
Circe wrote...
I get kind of >:| about this topic.I have no sympathy for women who get knocked up and then cry about how miserable they are and why is this happening to them. You spread your legs unprotected, you deal with the consequences.
However, while I may not condone the way you got to the "DO NOT WANT BABY" stage, it's also your choice how to deal with it.
If someone asked me, I would say I'm pro-choice. But I don't support either side. Like someone said before, I'm pro-responsibility. Pregnancy is preventable, so either don't be a stupid bitch or don't complain.
so now there is 3 side. Pro choice, Pro life, Pro responsibilty
just to clarify, how is pro responsibility a position though? i don't think anyone is saying that people shouldn't have sex in a responsible way at all and the statistics i gave suggest that in fact, most women do try to have sex in a responsible way. only 8% of women that get abortions don't use some form of contraception and this is coming from a pro-life site. the real question though is whether once a women finds out she is pregnant, whether she should be allowed to get an abortion or carry it to term. i don't think there is a right answer, only a balancing of interests, which is essentially what we have now.
prolife site also said that it not a sin to blow up a clinic and most abortion doctors were trained by terrorist to kill christian babies
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I would say Pro-choice because if the woman believes that she is not ready for parenthood and the child was to be born, the child will suffer as well.
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Fi wrote...
just to clarify, how is pro responsibility a position though? i don't think anyone is saying that people shouldn't have sex in a responsible way at all and the statistics i gave suggest that in fact, most women do try to have sex in a responsible way. only 8% of women that get abortions don't use some form of contraception and this is coming from a pro-life site. the real question though is whether once a women finds out she is pregnant, whether she should be allowed to get an abortion or carry it to term. i don't think there is a right answer, only a balancing of interests, which is essentially what we have now.I think the point, is choose pro-responsibility so that you hopefully never have to make the decision between pro-life and pro-choice.
Also, the statistics you gave stated that 76% of those using contraceptives and 49% using condoms used them inconsistently. That means they are not being responsible.
8% of those women have never used a method of birth control, but a large percentage besides them use it only sparingly, if only 13% of pill users and 14% of confirm users are actually using contraceptives correctly every time.
If I'm fucking Freddy 7 days a week, and I only use condoms on Tuesdays, that means I'm not included in that 8%, but my dumbass will most likely get pregnant and fall into that 49%.
Inconsistency is the same irresponsibility that causes unexpected pregnancy. So it falls in the same category.
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animefreak_usa wrote...
prolife site also said that it not a sin to blow up a clinic and most abortion doctors were trained by terrorist to kill christian babies
ha! where did you see in that in the website? i don't see it. anyway, tried to find overly biased for the prolifers and i ran into these stats a couple times so i just picked a site that at least had some indication of where the stats came from.
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found basically the same stats from the other side of the fence: Guttmacher Institute
CONTRACEPTIVE USE
Fifty-four percent of women who have abortions had used a contraceptive method (usually the condom or the pill) during the month they became pregnant. Among those women, 76% of pill users and 49% of condom users report having used their method inconsistently, while 13% of pill users and 14% of condom users report correct use.[8]
Forty-six percent of women who have abortions had not used a contraceptive method during the month they became pregnant. Of these women, 33% had perceived themselves to be at low risk for pregnancy, 32% had had concerns about contraceptive methods, 26% had had unexpected sex and 1% had been forced to have sex.[8]
Eight percent of women who have abortions have never used a method of birth control; nonuse is greatest among those who are young, poor, black, Hispanic or less educated.[8]
About half of unintended pregnancies occur among the 11% of women who are at risk for unintended pregnancy but are not using contraceptives. Most of these women have practiced contraception in the past.[1,9]
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animefreak_usa
Child of Samael
@fi
westboro bapist website
is to just me or are the pro life protesters the crazies sector of the pro-life movement. thank god i lived in fresno, three abortion clinics, never a protest, they march once a year in downtown. they didn't open fake clinics to fuck with people wanting a abortion, didn't blow up one, i was spoiled.
mind you this is the biggest Republican region of all california, they got a three story building, we dems and third parties caught a former taco bell, they meet in forum hall, us denny's
westboro bapist website
is to just me or are the pro life protesters the crazies sector of the pro-life movement. thank god i lived in fresno, three abortion clinics, never a protest, they march once a year in downtown. they didn't open fake clinics to fuck with people wanting a abortion, didn't blow up one, i was spoiled.
mind you this is the biggest Republican region of all california, they got a three story building, we dems and third parties caught a former taco bell, they meet in forum hall, us denny's
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used to live in kentucky and there girls needed to be escorted by volunteers in order to make it through the mobs. now in dc, can just walk straight up to a clinic for a check up, though they do search your bags for weapons and bombs.
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Tsurayu wrote...
I think Jason Mewes put it best in Dogma "A woman's body is her own fuckin' business."Simply, this. Good old Jay, concisely stating how I see things. I also don't care much for the abortion shit. I don't even care if a woman gets pregnant just for the sake of getting an abortion. She wants to waste her time and money, that's her fucking problem. Shit, if she didn't use that unfirtalized egg for something, her body would have flushed it out anyway. (OMG, A POTENTIAL LIFE!!!) I just want people to have the individual freedom to do these things, whether moralfags like it or not.
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Takerial
Lovable Teddy Bear
animefreak_usa wrote...
@fiwestboro bapist website
is to just me or are the pro life protesters the crazies sector of the pro-life movement. thank god i lived in fresno, three abortion clinics, never a protest, they march once a year in downtown. they didn't open fake clinics to fuck with people wanting a abortion, didn't blow up one, i was spoiled.
mind you this is the biggest Republican region of all california, they got a three story building, we dems and third parties caught a former taco bell, they meet in forum hall, us denny's
Why in God's name would you ever want to look at Fred Phelps site?
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animefreak_usa
Child of Samael
Kalistean wrote...
animefreak_usa wrote...
@fiwestboro bapist website
is to just me or are the pro life protesters the crazies sector of the pro-life movement. thank god i lived in fresno, three abortion clinics, never a protest, they march once a year in downtown. they didn't open fake clinics to fuck with people wanting a abortion, didn't blow up one, i was spoiled.
mind you this is the biggest Republican region of all california, they got a three story building, we dems and third parties caught a former taco bell, they meet in forum hall, us denny's
Why in God's name would you ever want to look at Fred Phelps site?
for war, every time they protest at a soldier funeral we get the names and photos of it so we can make a case for restraining orders against the church from protesting the funeral.
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Takerial
Lovable Teddy Bear
animefreak_usa wrote...
Kalistean wrote...
animefreak_usa wrote...
@fiwestboro bapist website
is to just me or are the pro life protesters the crazies sector of the pro-life movement. thank god i lived in fresno, three abortion clinics, never a protest, they march once a year in downtown. they didn't open fake clinics to fuck with people wanting a abortion, didn't blow up one, i was spoiled.
mind you this is the biggest Republican region of all california, they got a three story building, we dems and third parties caught a former taco bell, they meet in forum hall, us denny's
Why in God's name would you ever want to look at Fred Phelps site?
for war, every time they protest at a soldier funeral we get the names and photos of it so we can make a case for restraining orders against the church from protesting the funeral.
Ah, the makes sense then.
He's a bastard. It saddens me he is from my state.
Which also surprises me. I figured someone would have sniped him by now with all the rifles in the state. I mean seriously, good luck trying to get the cops to actively find his killer.