Should Prostitution be legal?
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Well it's already legal in my country (New Zealand), and i can't say that it's done any harm.
Two of the three biggest industries in the world are illegal to some extent, go figure.
Two of the three biggest industries in the world are illegal to some extent, go figure.
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happy_skull wrote...
Everything should be legalized (drugs, prostitution).Then, it can be regulated properly and taxed.
There won't be a war on drugs anymore.
So, I give a big YES to prostitution. Think how much safer and better bachelor parties would be.
As George Carlin said, "Selling is legal, Fucking is legal. So why isn't selling fucking legal?"
That being said, there was a great Penn and Teller episode about prostitution.
Hell no, "Have you watched TAKEN?" i don't like that..
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tdizzle wrote...
it ties in to this big conspiracy...Lolwut?
mazda1024 wrote...
Hell no, "Have you watched TAKEN?" i don't like that..
Prostitution should be illegal because you didn't like a certain movie.
...uuuuuuum, m'kay.
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Kind of Important
A ray of Tsunlight.
Honeslty, I wouldn't complain too much being able to roll down the street and pick up a chick to have some fun with. But something about it doesn't sit right with me. I really don't know what. but I think it's fine being illegal as it is. If someone really wanted to go track down a hooker, they could.
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Have you watched TAKEN
With legalized prostitution, the industry would become regulated, thus making a situation like the one found in that movie less likely. Also, considering it is a movie, i don't know how often situations like in that movie happen in real life
But something about it doesn't sit right with me. I really don't know what.
Just because something bothers you doesn't mean it should be illegal.
If someone really wanted to go track down a hooker, they could.
So why not make it legal so it can be regulated, thus making it safer for the prostitute and less exploitative(thus reducing the likelihood of someone getting forced into it, which is what usually happens now)
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I think there should be STD tests as well. I just think its better than nothing. I mean a woman can get it in the morning then get picked up at night and get the exam tomorrow so it has still spread but atleast theres documentation for tracking them down, clients and hooker.
Thinking about it though, can you engage in prostitution under the guise of making porn? For example, you pick up a woman, you have sex with her while video taping it and you pay her a talent fee.
Thinking about it though, can you engage in prostitution under the guise of making porn? For example, you pick up a woman, you have sex with her while video taping it and you pay her a talent fee.
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ashcrimson, i truthfully have no answer to your question. I mean, i suppose if you call it a talent fee maybe, but i couldn't give you a definite answer
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ashcrimson wrote...
I think there should be STD tests as well. I just think its better than nothing. I mean a woman can get it in the morning then get picked up at night and get the exam tomorrow so it has still spread but atleast theres documentation for tracking them down, clients and hooker.Thinking about it though, can you engage in prostitution under the guise of making porn? For example, you pick up a woman, you have sex with her while video taping it and you pay her a talent fee.
There are just too many cases of prostitutes (both male and female) with HIV and other STD'd. The main problem is that many of them know but still continue their routine, thus spreading it. In my opinion, nothing good can ever get out of prostitution and thus I believe it should be illegal.
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JC, ok
Rovencrone, from what you just said you dont agree with it because of the health factor. I will agree on that and like I said, its not easy to monitor who has what with todays technology (you cant get the blood of a hooker and run to lab first to test it before having sex with her...). But in the event that STD will be strictly monitored and rules enforced ~ that STD is not a risk factor anymore, would it change your mind?
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Read Penguins older post, seems its legal on some parts of Nevada. Vegas? Ive actually never seen such a place before, where it is legal ~ interesting. Maybe I can check it out someday since I can just drive there, just to see out of curiosity but not to engage in it.
Rovencrone, from what you just said you dont agree with it because of the health factor. I will agree on that and like I said, its not easy to monitor who has what with todays technology (you cant get the blood of a hooker and run to lab first to test it before having sex with her...). But in the event that STD will be strictly monitored and rules enforced ~ that STD is not a risk factor anymore, would it change your mind?
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Read Penguins older post, seems its legal on some parts of Nevada. Vegas? Ive actually never seen such a place before, where it is legal ~ interesting. Maybe I can check it out someday since I can just drive there, just to see out of curiosity but not to engage in it.
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@ravencrone- The porn industry seems to be doing a ok job with keeping STD's under control. So why can't a regulated prostitution industry do the same thing?
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ashcrimson wrote...
Rovencrone, from what you just said you dont agree with it because of the health factor. I will agree on that and like I said, its not easy to monitor who has what with todays technology (you cant get the blood of a hooker and run to lab first to test it before having sex with her...). But in the event that STD will be strictly monitored and rules enforced ~ that STD is not a risk factor anymore, would it change your mind?And how do you plan to monitor something like this? From what I read I feel like you maybe want to suggest a required license/permit to be a prostitute? That way they could, say, have monthly checkups and the like for STD's. That however is the problem, for it would be too much of a hassle to give check ups. Plus, the frequency of the checkups would have to be rather high. I mean, what's to stop a random client with an STD to come and spread it to the prostitute, who may in turn spread it again to another client before a said checkup. If you were truly to monitor them to ensure the safety of both the client and prostitute, you would need a system of testing both of them each time before they have sex. so, until you can maybe come up with a "test kit" or the like for that then it still wouldn't change my opinion, and that's only based off the health factors. There are still other problems too, like ethics and finances.
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Maybe the prostitute could require the client get a STD test before having sex with them(and a client could request that a prostitute get a STD test before having sex with them). I mean, i think both prostitutes and clients would do there best to prevent STD's from spreading. Also, i think most prostitutes would use contraception, especially if they can't get a STD test from the client before sleeping with them
Also, with a regulated industry, a prostitute would be in control of how many clients they sleep with. I think this would also help reduce the transmission of STD's since i think most prostitutes wouldn't have so many clients that they couldn't keep track of who got STD tests and when.
Also, with a regulated industry, a prostitute would be in control of how many clients they sleep with. I think this would also help reduce the transmission of STD's since i think most prostitutes wouldn't have so many clients that they couldn't keep track of who got STD tests and when.
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Well that is what I meant, there's no such thing at present. Hopefully, one can be developed in the future similar to a pregnancy test.
Alright, so you wont out of ethics. Coz finances, anyone can just treat you and thats out of the question then and there
JC, I agree with that as well, because its not always just the client that should be protected here, the prostitute should be as well.
... as they say lead by example, maybe we should set-up our own legal/safe prostitution den in Nevada and be an example. Fakku members get a 10% discount, group packages get a free room for a day. Sorry poor attempt at humor, but I think I would join such a business venture if ever, it sounds interesting and new to me
why did you have to use that name, im thinking of a name for it and "the whorehouse of jesus" comes to mind
Alright, so you wont out of ethics. Coz finances, anyone can just treat you and thats out of the question then and there
JC, I agree with that as well, because its not always just the client that should be protected here, the prostitute should be as well.
... as they say lead by example, maybe we should set-up our own legal/safe prostitution den in Nevada and be an example. Fakku members get a 10% discount, group packages get a free room for a day. Sorry poor attempt at humor, but I think I would join such a business venture if ever, it sounds interesting and new to me
why did you have to use that name, im thinking of a name for it and "the whorehouse of jesus" comes to mind
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Black Jesus JC wrote...
ashcrimson, i truthfully have no answer to your question. I mean, i suppose if you call it a talent fee maybe, but i couldn't give you a definite answerThere is a lot of paperwork involved in making a porn,all manner of waivers and consent forms have to be filled out in multiples so the business making the video can keep it's ass out of trouble. The simplest answer I can give, is you'll be hassled by the cops for all manner of documentation and if you can't provide it you can and will probably be arrested then probably have charges of lying to police stacked on top.
tl:dr Don't.
The most rational argument against prostitution is the spread of STD's. Consider for a moment what the current industry is like. Regulating the industry will allow for control of the industry removing a lot of the exploitation (pimps, child prostitutes, human trafficking),violence (rapes, abuse) drug use,etc while maintaining a lid on STD's.
Regulations can be put into effect that would state that "prostitutes" or "sex workers" would be required to get permits, get regular screenings, stay indoors (brothels) out of the sight of children and those who don't wish to view the workers. Confining prostitutes to "brothels" also allows the state and cities to maintain a hold of the industry by use of zoning laws and permit applications for such businesses. In the same manner they control strip clubs.
All over the world prostitution is a thriving industry. Why? people want sex and are willing to pay for it, even go to jail. In some countries around the world, most notably the middle east, prostitution is punishable by death, not may be punishable but, IS punishable. You get caught, both die.
Now, for the control of S.T.D's you could require the client provide test results. Multiple and regular tests for up to six months prior to engaging in sexual activity with a prostitute. Though this is the conservative approach to the idea. I won't lie and say we can prevent all STD's but, if we can make the outbreaks manageable then we are making huge strides against the status quo. Even if STD's scare the piss out of you. Does the idea of ending child prostitution, the abuse at the hands of pimps, "rewarding" human traffickers for selling women into prostitution, the complete lack of control of when and where prostitutes roam, reducing the number of STD cases balance out the few remaining downsides?
I find it difficult to understand why there is such strong resistance to bring order to disorder. Why is there so much resistance to allowing people to sell or buy a product or service? We buy the product and services of people in exchange for money everyday. At the core, prostitution is the same. It is two people exchanging money for a product or service.
As I said before and I have reiterated time and again. If even the threat of death for customers and workers doesn't kill the industry nothing will. Prostitution will never go away. So instead of keeping the status quo lets clean it up.
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would it really end child prostitution? pimping? human trafficking? even now that prostitution is illegal this things happen (you might say this things happen because it IS illegal), I think even if you legalize it people will find a way... to evade tax to earn a living to get filthy rich and people who get into those things will find a way to get a hold of them, also birth, I know there are many ways to prevent having them but lets face it they are not 100% bulletproof(unless you want to go under painful surgery XD) and what if a legal prostitute gets raped? how would he/she defend himself/herself. I'm not saying don't legalize it, it's just that would it really make things better or would it just worsen it? peace :D
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would it really end child prostitution? pimping? human trafficking
Maybe not completely end it, but with proper regulation i feel it would be reduced. keeping it illegal certainly hasn't done anything to reduce the problem
what if a legal prostitute gets raped?
Sue the rapist like any woman who goes through that situation? The way it is now, because it is illegal, if a woman is a prostitute they can't get much legal help since what there doing is illegal(and the majority of the time they were forced/tricked/exploited into being a prostitute int he first place)
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how will it be reduced? it's still illegal even though you are going to legalize prostitution right? not unless they will allow child prostitution or human trafficking legal?
But maybe in a way it is already legal, Dating. :D
Scholars debate for legalizing prostitution
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read, you decide
as for me, go out on a date, interact with the opposite sex, stay safe, be well, eat fruit and touch as many people as you can :D
But maybe in a way it is already legal, Dating. :D
Scholars debate for legalizing prostitution
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read, you decide
as for me, go out on a date, interact with the opposite sex, stay safe, be well, eat fruit and touch as many people as you can :D