War on America

yeah but anyway U.S developing a Laser system that can kill a missile...



- I'm just adding U.S has a aircraft junk (about 5-6k variants they say) in tucson, and naval mothball in suisan bay in CA, if the war goes on heat i think they will repair those modern garbage to new one...

Presently, I don't think anyone will doubt the military strengh of the United States of America. However, wars being fought today are different from that of yesteryear. Invaders of any nation may choose to attach a country's economy, cause unrest among its citizen or even launch a massive cyber-attack.

Conquering a nation, especially a large one, is no small feat. Many ancient civilisations took years before they were toppled, due to a variety of reasons.

Okay, so the first place your friend was wrong was in the 50s. North Koreans wrecked the Army pretty hard (admittedly) but he seemed to forget that the USMC kicked their ass across the 38th parallel all the way to the Yalu River, where the Army 23rd mechanized broke orders and pursued NK troops into China. This prompted China to enter the war, and thus push the US back to the 38th.

Other than that everything looks pretty much picked apart. If anything were to happen though, as soon as NK forces start mobilizing en masse I guarantee that Yokosuka AFB will be on high alert scrambling absolutely everything they have, not to mention Okinawa along with other US installations in Japan. We would bitch-smack them damn hard before they even got started (stealth capabilities and advanced missile guidance systems ftw). To my knowledge NK or even a combined Korea couldn't match that. Any future fighters in development are being aided by Saab, Boeing, and Lockheed Martin, all of which would withdraw support if tensions heated up. Both Air Forces are a joke as it is, with SK's most advanced being the F-15k and NK's the MiG-29.

Put simply, it'd never happen, and if it did we'd by laying down the pain train for their entire way across the ocean, only for them to encounter American soil bristling with weaponry.

Precisely. It is a waste of time to even continue building ABMs. In the world, there are 2 ABMs that 'can' intercept and ICBM. They were not proven. The other ABMs simply cannot shoot it down because it is too fast.

And like Gambler noted, war today isnt the same. a country would opt for Economic war or even Cyber war.

Um, it's ridiculous to think that any country alone could attempt to seize our homeland.

Pretty much everything was said really.

It is, theoretically, possible to assault and conquer parts of United States with military force.

But "first strike" and prevention forces U.S has notwithstanding, the route between the U.S and say, China or Korea is pretty long. Sufficiently long so that carrier battle groups or subs would beat the crap out of approaching fleet, or at very least deal pretty heavy damage to it. Then your army would have to actually make it to the coast, and break through the eventual American defensive lines - who would hit you with everything they got. Tanks, missiles, airplanes, naval units, commando team, electronic warfare, internet warfare etc. Then, you'd need to push further into country.

Since I doubt U.S citizens would roll over (not to mention any partisan-style special forces teams or broken-up military units that would be stranded/left behind the front-lines,) you'd need a sizable force to just maintain order, much less keep the momentum of the offensive. I doubt that more then a few nations would have the manpower to do it - I mean China and India of course. Alternatively, you would need a pretty big multi-national alliance.

And one thing a lot of "armchair", for the lack of better term, strategists forget that military losses cannot be as easily replaced as in an RTS. Soldiers, tank crews, pilots, all of them take time to train and equip. And no nation has an endless population - you need people in factories, on farms, to make more children too. Chances are your entire military will get floored trying to invade U.S - and before you come even close to replenishing losses, Americans will bomb the shit out of you, and everyone you ever loved, and you won't be able to do anything about it.

Even assuming you could somehow to land with minimal casualties, you'd still need to supply your army. As many people here said, the sheer logistics of moving a mass of people across oceans is mind-boggling, even without other people trying to sink your fleet. Overlord was nearly a failure because of logistical trouble, and it "merely" involved shuffling Allied troops through La Manche channel to France - a distance that's several dozen kilometers long at most. The distance between Korea and North America is measured in millions by comparison.

And remember, at all times do Americans have the capacity to carpet-bomb your homeland at any time of the day, courtesy of carrier groups and military bases placed all around the world, many of them in Asia.

In short, it's possible, but entirely pointless and a waste of time.

Of course, if you had troops stationed beforehand on American continent, and even better, kept it secret from Americans, your chances would be much better. An army that operates from Mexico or Canada would fare better then someone who needs to haul their ass across a vast ocean. But keeping your military build-up is no-easy task, and has it's own set of problems.

And there's the whole global alliances thing and nuclear deterrents.

Of course, things get a bit different when you attack separate American bases far from home, rather then just invade their homeland is an entirely different matter.

After all, why bother conquering a big piece of unfriendly land, if you can defeat their military, achieve global supremacy and confine Americans to their borders? After a few years, they'll be begging for peace, as you slowly blockade them into oblivion.

...Assuming you *can* beat them. American army IMO has some of the most advanced armaments and is by no means a small force.

Just throwing in some of my few thoughts with two cents into the mix.

We left troops in pretty much all areas we have fought in (or near by) to intercept and "sqaush" any possible strike on our homeland. Without saying I would be terrified fighting on ground in a country like let's say china.

BUT as far as a attack here? The only effective way of attacking the US is Terrorism and it's not effective all the time and certainly wouldn't have the effect of a all out invasion. Returning to my first point, IF a invasion force with enough man power to secure a landing in the US HAD made it through the best Navy and Air Force, then they have to face our frontline on OUR home. AMerica ignited after peral harbor, imagine twhat America would do to enemies on our land? It could very well be the only thing to unite our country.

Now let's say that invading force managed to survive, without reionforcments they are doomed to say the least without having removing our Navy and AIr Force from play. They would (if they land on US soil) be cut off. No point in that unless you willing to sacrifice the thousands of men needed to hold a location in US if not millions.

Now when we know who attacked us, what do you think we're going to do? If it's a all out declared war then we are going to capture that country and apply the pressure until they give in, which has been a historical fact except in the obvious eceptions. So unless a country came up with the funds, man power and a WAY to first cut of the US from NATO and are able to land millions and millions of troops on US soil, the idea is soundly flawed via Invasion.