Was Hitler a evil person?
Was Hitler a evil person?
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Chlor wrote...
Fact is, he was a mediocre artist.Depends on what you define as good/mediocre. He was no Rembrandt, but for someone who never went to art school and saw art only as secondary occupation, he was pretty good. Just look at his portraits of Dogs and Landscapes. He even made some human portraits and studies. When it comes down to drawing, Hitler could easily tower over all of FAKKU. :)
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True, he wasn't a great artist, but if you've seen his paintings you can even with an untrained eye see that, while pretty good, he was nothing special. And that disregarding the fact he wasn't good enough to get into art-school. And about towering all of Fakku, when it comes down to realistic drawings and portraits, you're probably right, since most of our users don't really do that kinda stuff.
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[font=Verdana][color=green]Let's not argue over whether or not he was a good artist. It's all subjective to each individual eye.
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SamRavster wrote...
Let's not argue over whether or not he was a good artist. It's all subjective to each individual eye. I ought to disagree. If someone is bad at drawing, he can't possibly be a good visual artist.
By your definition any idiot can be an artist, only if someone likes his works. An artist becomes nothing more than an entertainer of the lowest sort, like a comedian. I don't think this is what people studied for years for and devoted their lives. But sadly, this is where the trend nowadays is going to.
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Tachyon wrote...
SamRavster wrote...
Let's not argue over whether or not he was a good artist. It's all subjective to each individual eye. I ought to disagree. If someone is bad at drawing, he can't possibly be a good visual artist.
By your definition any idiot can be an artist, only if someone likes his works. An artist becomes nothing more than an entertainer of the lowest sort, like a comedian. I don't think this is what people studied for years for and devoted their lives. But sadly, this is where the trend nowadays is going to.
I agree but disagree at the same time.
art is not to be studied in order to be understood and expressed but by experiencing and actually getting inspired. It is not anything about the amount of time spent on it.
One can draw the perfect sketch of something but of art value, it may not be as much as a picture of complex polygons.
art is not about perfect, accurate representation of things he wants to draw but whether the art can express the artist's thoughts and feelings through the art work, such as the strength of the colour usage.
However, this can be changed nowadays as there are more ways to express these thoughts etc, such as camera works and even what some would regard as "bad drawings"
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etismyname wrote...
Tachyon wrote...
SamRavster wrote...
Let's not argue over whether or not he was a good artist. It's all subjective to each individual eye. I ought to disagree. If someone is bad at drawing, he can't possibly be a good visual artist.
By your definition any idiot can be an artist, only if someone likes his works. An artist becomes nothing more than an entertainer of the lowest sort, like a comedian. I don't think this is what people studied for years for and devoted their lives. But sadly, this is where the trend nowadays is going to.
I agree but disagree at the same time.
art is not to be studied in order to be understood and expressed but by experiencing and actually getting inspired. It is not anything about the amount of time spent on it.
One can draw the perfect sketch of something but of art value, it may not be as much as a picture of complex polygons.
art is not about perfect, accurate representation of things he wants to draw but whether the art can express the artist's thoughts and feelings through the art work, such as the strength of the colour usage.
However, this can be changed nowadays as there are more ways to express these thoughts etc, such as camera works and even what some would regard as "bad drawings"
[font=Verdana][color=green]@Tachyon You have completely disregarded my point. Let me ask you this; what is meant by "not good at drawing?"
Also, don't define my own "definition" for me. Going by your interpretation of my "definition" - which it barely was - you think that I claim "If anyone draws a picture, and someone likes it, they're an artist". If that were the case, every child with a nice mother is an artist. Again, I'm going to have to call you up on your [i]reducio ad absurdium[i].
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I think this debate on appreciation of art is slightly off-topic. Maybe one could create a new thread for this topic? Though I must say that appreciation of art is really subjective, up to the specific education and tastes of a person. However, some pieces of art, paintings especially, are considered master pieces unanimously.
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There is no such thing as good or evil. I don't see why some people here have denigrated this argument. Evil is a subjective word. Hitler and His followers all felt they were doing what was best for the country, Jews were seen as a plague on german society, a plague that hitler felt was trying to take over his country from the inside. The Nuremberg Trials only proved this as most of those loyal to hitler refused to acknowledge any wrongdoing to them their actions were brave not cruel.
Yes to me, someone born in the 90's, Hitler appears evil, but you must remember that back then the allies weren't the sort of angelic defenders of peace the history books would have you believe. When the Nazi's were accused of medical experimentation on Jews, they retorted with the accusation that America had done the same with its black prison population (indeed it had). We're talking about an era of colonialism where the colonist was the master and the indigenous man was his slave. Morality is something that is ever-changing, it suffices to say that people are neither good nor bad, they simply have their own motives.
Yes to me, someone born in the 90's, Hitler appears evil, but you must remember that back then the allies weren't the sort of angelic defenders of peace the history books would have you believe. When the Nazi's were accused of medical experimentation on Jews, they retorted with the accusation that America had done the same with its black prison population (indeed it had). We're talking about an era of colonialism where the colonist was the master and the indigenous man was his slave. Morality is something that is ever-changing, it suffices to say that people are neither good nor bad, they simply have their own motives.
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Seriously this question is not appropriate.
Under his order many....many people died. For what did these people die? because they are not worth to live? hitler did evil things so in my eyes it makes him evil.
Under his order many....many people died. For what did these people die? because they are not worth to live? hitler did evil things so in my eyes it makes him evil.
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Well its kinda intesting to post in this thread when you are a german but hey fuck it.
I do not think Hitler was a bad Person, i dont think anybody is a bad person. There are just many different ways of thinken and doing things, Hitler has done things in his way, Obama is doing things in his way and Merkel is also doing this. This does not mean that i call anything he has done good. As a german I can say that he has kinda completly crushed the german national proudness. Americans are proud of their country and they are showing this in many ways. Most Germans dont dare to be even near a thing called national proudness. Most of them fear to much getting called Nazi and they dunno what they should say then so most of them just say Germany is a shitty nation doesnt matter what they are really thinking as long as they are not getting in troubly.
I do not think Hitler was a bad Person, i dont think anybody is a bad person. There are just many different ways of thinken and doing things, Hitler has done things in his way, Obama is doing things in his way and Merkel is also doing this. This does not mean that i call anything he has done good. As a german I can say that he has kinda completly crushed the german national proudness. Americans are proud of their country and they are showing this in many ways. Most Germans dont dare to be even near a thing called national proudness. Most of them fear to much getting called Nazi and they dunno what they should say then so most of them just say Germany is a shitty nation doesnt matter what they are really thinking as long as they are not getting in troubly.
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he did wrong only because he lost the war. winners are always right, but I think his intentions where to protect his country. not done the right way though, and to clarify he didn´t only kill jews.
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FreeThought wrote...
Evil in most eyes, a hero in others. I really can't think of anything else past that point.yeah..tha´s pretty much it
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Yay, I accidentally put the answer 'no'. I meant to put yes.. =/
Aanyways, I think he was evil, because he knew exactly what he was doing.
Aanyways, I think he was evil, because he knew exactly what he was doing.
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To be perfectly honest I thought he was a good guy for doing the things that he actually said he would. Unlike those stupid American Presidents nowadays who don't do shit in their lives but just sit back and do nothing. Hitler did what he said he would and more, he actually took over more than half the world with Japan although I just don't like the fact that he was racist and a nationalist and completely hated the gays and Jews. Overall I say no he wasn't a bad person, a bit racist but that's it
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Dr Shaneman wrote...
Yes because he killed so many of us Brits.With that sort of logic you could say the Brits and Americans were evil because they killed many Germans in their bombing campaigns.
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I'll say this, even though Hitler killed so many Jews and etc, He was also an impressive leader, granted He wouldn't have been where he was with out the help of his trusted higher ups(who tragically got killed off because of him). He began getting paranoid during the later years of the war, which ultimately led to his downfall.
Evil is in the eye of the beholder, to answer Spectre and Shane
Evil is in the eye of the beholder, to answer Spectre and Shane