Was Hitler a evil person?
Was Hitler a evil person?
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well not that much... he hated jews cause in his opinion, the jews stabbed the back of germany back in ww1.
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galent_sail wrote...
Hitlers hatred of the Jews was caused by many events throughout his life.1) His mother died when he was young; her doctor was Jewish.
2) His painting career failed because no-one would buy his pictures. Many Jewish families were well off, he was very poor.
3) His father was against Jewish people.
There are others but I can't remember.
He did terrible things and killed millions of people but he was doing what he believed was right. His ideas on right and wrong were really messed up though.
I Add other reason why hitler became evil..
- their is a jew proessor who discriminates hitler.
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Hitler was rich and famouse as a child then his household was bought by Jews turning him and his mother to slaves not to mention that the jewish owner had affairs with he mother causeing his brother to be Jewish. His brother suceeded as an artist as hitler failed. Giving him a deep hate from jew from the start though this is not why he started a quest for new world order by killing Jews when i get back from Work i will Explain more though it is very complicated and if u dont know history then you may not see what trigered past evens.
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shinji_ikari wrote...
Longevity wrote...
Not at all he was great man and brilliant leader. you're such a charming fellow aren't you longevity
Thank you I always like to believe I am.
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The sad thing is the Allies were no better.
Apparently the Jews back then were the flavour of the month heck even in the allied countries Jews were discriminated against though just not to the extent the Nazis took it.
Hitler probably had some idea as to what happened to the Jews as he had to have signed off on the Final Solution when it was proposed to him.
But in terms of being a political leader and getting stuff done he was brilliant raising Germany out of the ashes of the Great War.
The Allied powers always feared Germany's rising power which was why they got the blame for the first war and copped the short end of the Versailles Treaty. Originally it was Austria's fault for starting the war with the Serbs giving them an ultimatum that was impossible to fulfil although the Serbs somehow managed to offer almost all of it.
Ironicly the Austrians couldn't steamroll the Serbs as they originally thought.
Unfortunately for his country and generals he was a horrible tactician and screwed up many operations. He also encouraged infighting with his generals which caused issues with group cohesion resulting in the failed defence of the Atlantic Wall if they had listened to Rommel there was a good chance the Allies would never have been able to land.
Personally I don't believe at heart he was inherently evil but his actions were demonised by the powers that be, and his other achievements shunned to present him as purely a madman.
The Jews were simply a scapegoat so that Hitler had something/one to blame for the economic recession in Germany, and it was obvious for the German people as most of them were poor while the Jews were wealthy.
If you read Mein Kampf[y chair] you do get an insight into his thinking, though I know it is obviously propaganda laced and edited you do get a feel for how he thinks.
Apparently the Jews back then were the flavour of the month heck even in the allied countries Jews were discriminated against though just not to the extent the Nazis took it.
Hitler probably had some idea as to what happened to the Jews as he had to have signed off on the Final Solution when it was proposed to him.
But in terms of being a political leader and getting stuff done he was brilliant raising Germany out of the ashes of the Great War.
The Allied powers always feared Germany's rising power which was why they got the blame for the first war and copped the short end of the Versailles Treaty. Originally it was Austria's fault for starting the war with the Serbs giving them an ultimatum that was impossible to fulfil although the Serbs somehow managed to offer almost all of it.
Ironicly the Austrians couldn't steamroll the Serbs as they originally thought.
Unfortunately for his country and generals he was a horrible tactician and screwed up many operations. He also encouraged infighting with his generals which caused issues with group cohesion resulting in the failed defence of the Atlantic Wall if they had listened to Rommel there was a good chance the Allies would never have been able to land.
Personally I don't believe at heart he was inherently evil but his actions were demonised by the powers that be, and his other achievements shunned to present him as purely a madman.
The Jews were simply a scapegoat so that Hitler had something/one to blame for the economic recession in Germany, and it was obvious for the German people as most of them were poor while the Jews were wealthy.
If you read Mein Kampf[y chair] you do get an insight into his thinking, though I know it is obviously propaganda laced and edited you do get a feel for how he thinks.
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It does not matter how you want to spin it hitler is by all means an evil person.
1) He claimed dictatorship over germany
2) Through his invasion on Poland he started WW2 50-70 million die
3) He actively sought the destruction of race causing the holocaust 11-17 million died
4) He used the cover of war to perform heinous and inhumane experiments on humans and his appalling treatment of POW
in conclusion its safe to say he was evil and is currently roasting in hell
1) He claimed dictatorship over germany
2) Through his invasion on Poland he started WW2 50-70 million die
3) He actively sought the destruction of race causing the holocaust 11-17 million died
4) He used the cover of war to perform heinous and inhumane experiments on humans and his appalling treatment of POW
in conclusion its safe to say he was evil and is currently roasting in hell
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I really, seriously everyone that didn't vote yes was joking or trolling. I'm open for debate on most subjects, but whether Hitler was evil or not is not subject to debate.
I don't have anything principally against dictatorships. Sometimes, things need to be done against the will of the people for their best interests. Though World War II was very bad, in most cases it's hypocritical to say that Hitler was evil for starting it: there are a LOT of other wars not started by him that are regarded as "just", so unless you want to brand ALL of those other people as evil too, this argument doesn't count.
What is not open to discussion and at the same time THE reason he is objectively an evil person, is ordering the genocide of an entire people. This wasn't simply hate: hate, though questionable, can be understandable under certain situations. This was genuine belief that the world would be better off without an entire race of people. Merely believing that is already bad enough, but acting on it is even more sickening. Nothing can justify or excuse that.
I don't have anything principally against dictatorships. Sometimes, things need to be done against the will of the people for their best interests. Though World War II was very bad, in most cases it's hypocritical to say that Hitler was evil for starting it: there are a LOT of other wars not started by him that are regarded as "just", so unless you want to brand ALL of those other people as evil too, this argument doesn't count.
What is not open to discussion and at the same time THE reason he is objectively an evil person, is ordering the genocide of an entire people. This wasn't simply hate: hate, though questionable, can be understandable under certain situations. This was genuine belief that the world would be better off without an entire race of people. Merely believing that is already bad enough, but acting on it is even more sickening. Nothing can justify or excuse that.
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Fiery_penguin_of_doom wrote...
If you were someobody else (shaggy, Whitelion,etc) I would consider this an intellectuals attempt at sparking a "No such thing as good/evil" argument.With that kind of argument you could say "Look at America in Iraq. Americans see themselves are taking down a dictator and bringing freedom and democracy to the middle east. While the Arabic people see us as invaders overthrowing their government to install puppets".
I won't exactly say Hitler was evil. He gave hope to a downtrodden people. Though his methods were wrong he wanted to restore Germany. Too bad he ended up sending millions to their deaths and destroyed Germany a second time. While we decry his actions now, he was a hero to his people. Humans have this mentality that good triumphs over evil. So those who win are the good and those who lose are evil.
From what I remember, Hitler used the Jews and Communists are a scapegoat to advance his political agenda. He blamed them for the ruin of their country. With people to hate it's easy to motivate.
Not only that....jews have been the scape goat of humanity, they have been killed by tons hundreds of times and still kicking... a lot of things have to be considered before saying "good" of "bad" because this doesnt just involve Hitler. I also agree about Hitler being unique, but that's about it, humanity has been sent to die countless of time this case is just a recent one.
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I don't think he was evil. Just stupid, misplacing his anger for his tiny penis on the jews(and all those other people).
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I don't believe any person is evil in the sense of the stereotypical mustache-twirling villains you see on television. Everyone has motivations for why they do things, and I like to think that people generally act in a manner they think is right, even if their reasoning appears to be severely warped from an outside perspective. Nobody does anything just because "it's the EVIL thing to do!"; I find it vastly more likely that Hitler committed genocide because he honestly believed the Jewish people were a threat to the German people, and not just for shits and giggles. His motives by themselves don't make him evil, just misguided and totally off his rocker. From his own perspective, I'm all but positive that Adolph thought he was taking measures that were absolutely right and totally necessary.
That said, evil as it's most commonly used is a subjective term defined by the standards of the surrounding society. Cannibalism may be seen as evil in modern society for instance but in a society of cannibals it's a commonly-accepted practice. In that sense Hitler was most definitely evil because it goes without saying that genocide is not socially-acceptable behavior in either 1940s Europe or on the internet in 2010 (factions of /b/ notwithstanding).
That said, evil as it's most commonly used is a subjective term defined by the standards of the surrounding society. Cannibalism may be seen as evil in modern society for instance but in a society of cannibals it's a commonly-accepted practice. In that sense Hitler was most definitely evil because it goes without saying that genocide is not socially-acceptable behavior in either 1940s Europe or on the internet in 2010 (factions of /b/ notwithstanding).
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Grab a chair, because I may be a little thorough :3
One must remember that what we percieve as Good or Evil are just two sides of the coin that is Fact: we distinguish the two from eachother based off of our own morals. Speaking as a History Major, one must recognize the social situation in order to understand how these events came to be. Following the signing of the Treaty of Versailles, tension began to build in Germany, because they were forced to submit to many terms in order to settle many international disputes. Anger built within the population, and many civilians developped a deep loathing towards the Roma ("Gypsies") and Jewish communities, along with many other communities made up of cultures alien to Germany. In other words, the morals that they held and taught their children was that if it wasn't German (ie Jewish, Roma, African American, Gay, Handicaped/Challenged, etc.), it was seen as bad. But this racism went from old-fashioned biggotry to Scientific Racism. At that time, studies on human genes were being conducted, and the results led many Germans to believe that there was a biological superiority between them and the aforementioned cultures. This led them to even blame the Roma, Jewish, Gays, etc. on the Treaty of Versailles. Thus, with all this going on, many people began to want to "rid themselves" of the "inferior" races, and parties began to sping up, propagating these beliefs; one of them being the DAP (later named the NDAP, or widely shortened as Nazi). The German government, wanting to evaluate how much a threat this party would be to them, sent a spy/official, of sorts, to a meeting. Hitler, the one sent, agreed with their morals and joined. Once he rose to a higher standing in the party, and became inluential to the members and other German citizens, began to spread propaganda that supported his moral belief, causing rising anger from the Germans to their "inferior" counter-parts, and this mix of Raceism, Anger, and Post-war Economical Issues brewed into more war. The point I make is this: in this situation, A led to B which led to C. While many blame Hitler for everything that occurred during that point of time in history, he was only a piece on the bord, no matter how seemingly important a role he played. Not only that, but as I previously stated, there is no such thing as good or evil; only fact. Once more, these two words are only backed by our own morals, and morals are not fact; you cannot prove a moral belief to be wrong, you can only compare it to your own. While I do not endorse his past actions, I, as a student Majoring in History, say that he is neither good nor evil; therefore, I cast my vote under "Refuse to answer". If I was unclear on any points, seeing as this was written using a wii and was therefore virtually impossible to revise and elaborate, feel free to ask.
One must remember that what we percieve as Good or Evil are just two sides of the coin that is Fact: we distinguish the two from eachother based off of our own morals. Speaking as a History Major, one must recognize the social situation in order to understand how these events came to be. Following the signing of the Treaty of Versailles, tension began to build in Germany, because they were forced to submit to many terms in order to settle many international disputes. Anger built within the population, and many civilians developped a deep loathing towards the Roma ("Gypsies") and Jewish communities, along with many other communities made up of cultures alien to Germany. In other words, the morals that they held and taught their children was that if it wasn't German (ie Jewish, Roma, African American, Gay, Handicaped/Challenged, etc.), it was seen as bad. But this racism went from old-fashioned biggotry to Scientific Racism. At that time, studies on human genes were being conducted, and the results led many Germans to believe that there was a biological superiority between them and the aforementioned cultures. This led them to even blame the Roma, Jewish, Gays, etc. on the Treaty of Versailles. Thus, with all this going on, many people began to want to "rid themselves" of the "inferior" races, and parties began to sping up, propagating these beliefs; one of them being the DAP (later named the NDAP, or widely shortened as Nazi). The German government, wanting to evaluate how much a threat this party would be to them, sent a spy/official, of sorts, to a meeting. Hitler, the one sent, agreed with their morals and joined. Once he rose to a higher standing in the party, and became inluential to the members and other German citizens, began to spread propaganda that supported his moral belief, causing rising anger from the Germans to their "inferior" counter-parts, and this mix of Raceism, Anger, and Post-war Economical Issues brewed into more war. The point I make is this: in this situation, A led to B which led to C. While many blame Hitler for everything that occurred during that point of time in history, he was only a piece on the bord, no matter how seemingly important a role he played. Not only that, but as I previously stated, there is no such thing as good or evil; only fact. Once more, these two words are only backed by our own morals, and morals are not fact; you cannot prove a moral belief to be wrong, you can only compare it to your own. While I do not endorse his past actions, I, as a student Majoring in History, say that he is neither good nor evil; therefore, I cast my vote under "Refuse to answer". If I was unclear on any points, seeing as this was written using a wii and was therefore virtually impossible to revise and elaborate, feel free to ask.
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To a man who perceived all Jews as a threat and exterminated many of them, is he really considered evil? Is he any worse than the rest of the world that let it happen, only to say something after it was all said and done? We are all evil. Those of us who let it go on and those of us who believe otherwise. Yes, he is evil. Why? Because he caused the world to fatal wounds that will never be healed and I perceive him as so.
It depends on each person's perspective on who and what is evil. Stalin, is he evil? He sent many of his people to death, so I believe so. Maozedong, is he evil? He revolted against the nationalists and made the country become communist. To me, he is because my family was part of the nationalists that suffered the losses. Hirohito, would you consider him evil? To me, he is because he caused many of my grandfather's friends to die and also made him lost the war against the communists. Japan helped create communist China. To the people of Japan, he might be seen as someone who was trying to better the country.
There is also the role influence plays on what we see as evil and good. For example, in Asia, eating dogs were not considered evil but killing cattle was looked down upon. Why? Because cattle helped farm the land and without them there would be no food to eat. Now, killing cattle is not looked down upon but killing dogs are. Why? Because of the white culture that has had a huge influence on what we consider morally and immorally correct.
Ahh, Im done.
It depends on each person's perspective on who and what is evil. Stalin, is he evil? He sent many of his people to death, so I believe so. Maozedong, is he evil? He revolted against the nationalists and made the country become communist. To me, he is because my family was part of the nationalists that suffered the losses. Hirohito, would you consider him evil? To me, he is because he caused many of my grandfather's friends to die and also made him lost the war against the communists. Japan helped create communist China. To the people of Japan, he might be seen as someone who was trying to better the country.
There is also the role influence plays on what we see as evil and good. For example, in Asia, eating dogs were not considered evil but killing cattle was looked down upon. Why? Because cattle helped farm the land and without them there would be no food to eat. Now, killing cattle is not looked down upon but killing dogs are. Why? Because of the white culture that has had a huge influence on what we consider morally and immorally correct.
Ahh, Im done.
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I don’t really know what to think of Hitler. I know he did what he did for the greater good of Germany (Germany was in a bad situation *same time as the Great Depression in the U.S.*) . You know that Germany was in a bad situation because Germans were desperate enough to believe the promises of a radical Austrian. I know that Hitler had a bad childhood (dad was mean) which probably messed him up a little. The reason why he made the Jewish people of Germany “the bad guy” was to unite the Germans together (and it did). You get the idea; unite together against a common enemy. The problem with the Jews was that they did not consider Germany their homeland and that really offended the Christian Germans. NOW, what Hitler and the Nazis did to political prisoners, gypsies, disabled people, Jewish people, and sympathetic “traitors” is and will always be unforgiveable. He brought shame to his adoptive country and actually made the situation worse than it already was. But real bad guys were the Europeans countries that screwed Germany with the Treaty of Versailles.
Do you know who is really evil? Josef Stalin, that bastard killed approximately 20 million, including up to 14.5 million needlessly starved to death. At least one million executed for political "offences". At least 9.5 million more deported, exiled or imprisoned in work camps, with many of the estimated five million sent to the 'Gulag Archipelago' never returning alive. Other estimates place the number of deported at 28 million, including 18 million sent to the 'Gulag'.
Do you know who is really evil? Josef Stalin, that bastard killed approximately 20 million, including up to 14.5 million needlessly starved to death. At least one million executed for political "offences". At least 9.5 million more deported, exiled or imprisoned in work camps, with many of the estimated five million sent to the 'Gulag Archipelago' never returning alive. Other estimates place the number of deported at 28 million, including 18 million sent to the 'Gulag'.
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If nothing else, he was a great leader.
Had some deluded and twisted views- but he knew how to run his ship.
Except when things started to fall apart, that is.
Anyways, more to the point; I'd say so- but like many so-called 'evils', they don't see themselves as such, which counts for a lot. No sane person likes to think of themselves as intentionally evil.
Had some deluded and twisted views- but he knew how to run his ship.
Except when things started to fall apart, that is.
Anyways, more to the point; I'd say so- but like many so-called 'evils', they don't see themselves as such, which counts for a lot. No sane person likes to think of themselves as intentionally evil.
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hittler may have had the right reasons at the begining help germany get out of the pool of shit the first war tossed them in but by the end he just didnt care anymore...he wanted too much power and that made him evil he killed people (jews) for no reason al all and he send milions to their deaths for a crappy reason like power...still thats kinda what the US is doing but still they make it seem like the people who go fight know what they are doing and are in no way obligated by the law to do so...
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Evil is a subjective word.
Depends who is with/against Hitler.
If you were fighting against his Nazi Germany, then you saw him as evil. If you supported his vision during his reign and agreed with him, then Hitler was a hero/good.
I'm pretty sure some people today even consider him a good person.
I admit nothing. He was a twisted mother fucker but and a great leader.
If you're going with the dictionary definition, then sure, he was evil, but you're going by someone else's definition/perception of Evil.
Depends who is with/against Hitler.
If you were fighting against his Nazi Germany, then you saw him as evil. If you supported his vision during his reign and agreed with him, then Hitler was a hero/good.
I'm pretty sure some people today even consider him a good person.
I admit nothing. He was a twisted mother fucker but and a great leader.
If you're going with the dictionary definition, then sure, he was evil, but you're going by someone else's definition/perception of Evil.
