Which is better, believing in a god or not?
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varem wrote...
I feel like there's more benefits to believing in God. Simply because if you believe in God you can assimilate with most people rather well. The same could be said about anyone, but if religion ever comes up and people find out you're Atheist, all of a sudden you become an outcast. I know because I've been there, and once it happened I had to change schools just because people behave so differently around you. And before you give me that associate with other Atheists bullshit, how many Atheist people do you know? I knew one guy in HS, and I really didn't care for that guy. That's why I just pretend to believe in God now. Makes things easierThat doesn't make believing in god a good or rewarding thing, it just demonstrates that those that do believe in god are discriminatory.
But to be honest, if that's a reason that being a believer is better, then being heterosexual or at least remaining in the closet is better than being openly homosexual, and so people ought to stop being openly homosexual because "It's just easier that way". Black people should strive to mate with white people so that their kids become lighter skinned, and teach them to talk as "white" as possible so that their kids don't get picked on as much by racists.
That's silly. I'm an open atheist, and yes, some people like to tell me how much I'm going to hell, but I've OTHER friends that are perfectly ok with it, and some people who I work with that find my religious position rather refreshing.
EZ-2789 wrote...
Well, X Y and Z couldn't have existed without being created. After all, we live an existence where everything has a definite beginning and a definite end. The problem with that is that it means at some point, nothing ever existed. That's why theories like the Big Bang exist. There was something that started everything, itself not started by anything else.That creating force, itself uncreated, is what some people call "God".
Ok, here we go, a lesson in Mereology. Nothing is created. And by that I don't mean that nothingness is a thing that's created, I mean that nothing at all is ever created, it's simply a reorganization of matter that we misname 'creation'. When a carpenter 'makes' a chair, he doesn't really 'make' a chair, he just reorganizes wood into a new formation that we call a chair. So yes, it actually is perfectly ok to say X, Y, and Z, exist, without having been created...because everything is.
Edit: Yet another - rep for no reason. Fakku users don't seem to enjoy the truth too well. : /
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I know some of the fakku community has different views which is good but whether u believe in god or not is completely up to you what I'm trying to say is that if you think he's real then think this to your self how do you know that there is something in this world called sin? And where has the world got that name from? In the end its completely up to you to find the evedence to that answer.
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BigLundi wrote...
That doesn't make believing in god a good or rewarding thing, it just demonstrates that those that do believe in god are discriminatory.Good job on pointing out the obvious; I'm rather sure the rest of the community wouldn't have realized it without your help. In any case, I agree with the point you make, but simply put there are many drawbacks to being an open Atheist. As I have mentioned before, people behave differently around you, and I'm sure others notice this as well. However it seems that people are starting to care less or are just more tolerant with the whole religion thing, much like the situation with homosexuals and black people. Perhaps one day it'll come to the point where personal beliefs won't matter.
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varem wrote...
BigLundi wrote...
That doesn't make believing in god a good or rewarding thing, it just demonstrates that those that do believe in god are discriminatory.Good job on pointing out the obvious; I'm rather sure the rest of the community wouldn't have realized it without your help. In any case, I agree with the point you make, but simply put there are many drawbacks to being an open Atheist. As I have mentioned before, people behave differently around you, and I'm sure others notice this as well. However it seems that people are starting to care less or are just more tolerant with the whole religion thing, much like the situation with homosexuals and black people. Perhaps one day it'll come to the point where personal beliefs won't matter.
...Umm...did I get hit with an amnesia beam? Gimme a second, I gotta look at your original post...what was that first line?
"I feel like there's more benefits to believing in God. Simply because if you believe in God you can assimilate with most people rather well."
And my response was..."No, that's not right, it's not a benefit for believing, it's a drawback to living around believers."
And your response is, "...Well DUH!"
So...which is it? Is it a benefit? Or a drawback?
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BigLundi wrote...
So...which is it? Is it a benefit? Or a drawback?You're doing it wrong.
What I said: I feel like there's more benefits to believing in God. Simply because if you believe in God you can assimilate with most people rather well.
What you said: That doesn't make believing in god a good or rewarding thing, it just demonstrates that those that do believe in god are discriminatory.
What I said back: Yeah you're right about religious people being discriminatory.
Try harder next time.
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varem wrote...
BigLundi wrote...
So...which is it? Is it a benefit? Or a drawback?You're doing it wrong.
What I said: I feel like there's more benefits to believing in God. Simply because if you believe in God you can assimilate with most people rather well.
What you said: That doesn't make believing in god a good or rewarding thing, it just demonstrates that those that do believe in god are discriminatory.
What I said back: Yeah you're right about religious people being discriminatory.
Try harder next time.
I don't have to try hard, I just have to quote you, and myself. : /
Again. Here's you, "I feel like there's more benefits to believing in God. Simply because if you believe in God you can assimilate with most people rather well."
Here's me. "That doesn't make believing in god a good or rewarding thing, it just demonstrates that those that do believe in god are discriminatory."
And here's your response to me informing you that I believe your position that believing in god to assimilate to society is a benefit to believing is wrong.
"Good job on pointing out the obvious; I'm rather sure the rest of the community wouldn't have realized it without your help."
To paraphrase what has just happened, You said you believed there were more benefits, and gave one. I disputed whether or not it was a benefit, then, in response, you attacked me for pointing out the obvious, completely switching your position.
Don't try to play this game.
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Switching what position? All I said was that I agree that religious people are discriminatory.
Agreeing with a point someone makes =/= switching your position. You're really going to have to try harder
I feel like there's more benefits to believing in God. Simply because if you believe in God you can assimilate with most people rather well.
I agree with the point you make, but simply put there are many drawbacks to being an open Atheist.
Agreeing with a point someone makes =/= switching your position. You're really going to have to try harder
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It's a stupid point anyways as it's completely dependent on where you live. If someone says he/she is religious here people will think that person is a bit stupid. If someone goes around saying that he/she lives according to what the bible says people will think he/she is utterly retarded.
Religion has no good arguments so what can they do but to minus rep?
BigLundi wrote...
Edit: Yet another - rep for no reason. Fakku users don't seem to enjoy the truth too well. : / Religion has no good arguments so what can they do but to minus rep?
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Half Man Half Amazing! wrote...
I believe in God. God is real.I'm pretty sure that's not how it works.
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Actually do we Human really need God?
plus if God is real where can i find It? in the bookstore or in the building where some say the church or mosque?
and what is this God thing? is it a molecule based organism or just an zero entity that people called God? I personally does not believe in God but i believe in the power of us the Human.
plus if God is real where can i find It? in the bookstore or in the building where some say the church or mosque?
and what is this God thing? is it a molecule based organism or just an zero entity that people called God? I personally does not believe in God but i believe in the power of us the Human.
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Still, I wonder on how humans are created without God.
(and don't tell me the "Monkeys to Humans" theory was right.)
(and don't tell me the "Monkeys to Humans" theory was right.)
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Chronus14 wrote...
Still, I wonder on how humans are created without God.(and don't tell me the "Monkeys to Humans" theory was right.)
Troll? Poe? Ignorant? Which is it?
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BigLundi wrote...
Chronus14 wrote...
Still, I wonder on how humans are created without God.(and don't tell me the "Monkeys to Humans" theory was right.)
Troll? Poe? Ignorant? Which is it?
hahahha... its a combo of trollin and being ignorant.
hahah.. but jokes are all half truth, half lie.
you should know its meaning.
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Chronus14 wrote...
Still, I wonder on how humans are created without God.(and don't tell me the "Monkeys to Humans" theory was right.)
That theory was disproved over a century ago. Perhaps you should stop using the criticizing science to support your beliefs until you get your facts straight.
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Fayte87 wrote...
Chronus14 wrote...
Still, I wonder on how humans are created without God.(and don't tell me the "Monkeys to Humans" theory was right.)
That theory was disproved over a century ago. Perhaps you should stop using the criticizing science to support your beliefs until you get your facts straight.
Im not criticizing science. What i am stating is a fact. Darwin did said that humans evolved from apes, monkeys, etc. In fact, I, too, is asking a question--> "I wonder on how humans are created without God." and its no need to make fun of the theory, coz' you said it yourself, it has been disproved century ago. So why bother?
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Fayte87 wrote...
Chronus14 wrote...
Still, I wonder on how humans are created without God.(and don't tell me the "Monkeys to Humans" theory was right.)
That theory was disproved over a century ago. Perhaps you should stop using the criticizing science to support your beliefs until you get your facts straight.
Is "Monkeys to Humans - theory" some kind of specific theory? Cause as for as I know the accepted theory is that we evolved from a common ancestor with the chimpanzee (or gorilla, it' debated). And that is certainly not disproved.
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Fayte87 wrote...
Chronus14 wrote...
Still, I wonder on how humans are created without God.(and don't tell me the "Monkeys to Humans" theory was right.)
That theory was disproved over a century ago. Perhaps you should stop using the criticizing science to support your beliefs until you get your facts straight.
That was certainly a nice "I have no fucking clue how it works so it must be false" you both did there.
Here, have this.

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Stenta wrote...
Fayte87 wrote...
Chronus14 wrote...
Still, I wonder on how humans are created without God.(and don't tell me the "Monkeys to Humans" theory was right.)
That theory was disproved over a century ago. Perhaps you should stop using the criticizing science to support your beliefs until you get your facts straight.
That was certainly a nice "I have no fucking clue how it works so it must be false" you both did there.
Here, have this.

I honestly don't think they were being serious...I believe in people more than that. I even suggested the first guy might have just been trolling, and he said partially he was...but...yeah...