Why Do Americans Still Fear Muslims?
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WesternWarrior wrote...
American's historically are a xenophobic, racist people with little to no redeeming quality to their name after it's independence. America itself has also been built on the backs of hundreds of millions of dead minorities; take the Jackson Administration Indian Removal policy for example, it effectively expanded American territory into the rich Mississippi Valley and killed and removed hundreds of Indian settlements in that process. Or perhaps take the Mexican-American war where the U.S basically took California and New Mexico from Mexico and payed them a shitty price to cover up the fact that they beat up a weaker nation, also funny enough, one of the factors contributing to the war was the idea that America's racial and moral superiority allowed them to travel across the continent and proclaim it's Manifest Destiny over the North American continent.How about America's treatment of the Vietnamese? My Lai is a fine example of American brutality, fear and racism of other peoples. History has proven that America is always wrong on the race/religion question, the founders got it right right with the secularism idea, but the fact remains that the Evangelist are happy to try and put a stop to that.
To directly answer your question; It's because America is always afraid of outsiders, they hate anything that is foreign and non-American and perceive any nation that might threaten America in any way as America's enemy. The media got a cycle see, where they scare the living shit out of people so they conform and listen to their corporate masters. 9/11 was a attack on America for it's imperial ambitions in a region where it should have no say and most American's either don't care or don't know about American meddling. So, they scare the shit out of the population to support a war that allows them to rob the Middle East of it's oil, keeping America's power checked in the region while keeping those pesky Chinese and Russians away.
It's all apart of the plan to keep America's dominance over the world and keep making the rich rich and the politicians elected.
Wow really man lets go over your post here
America is one of the most diverse and free places in the world I don't know where you live but I can tell you that 90% of countries in the world you talk shit about the government and secert police are banging down your door at 4 a.m.
I really hate it when people neglect to say that the indians started all the fighting in what is now the United States of America by slaughtering every europeon settlement after forcing them to live in shitty places with poor soil. If you can't finish a fight don't start one at all.
The Mexican-American war: MEXICO STARTED IT WHEN THEY ATTACKED U.S FORCES IN TEXAS
My lai was unfortantly caused by men who had itchy trigger fingers after enduring years of brutal and immoral tactics like when the viet cong strapped bombs to their kids and blew them up. And Let's talk about the Commies set up death camps after the war where they killed off anyone with a school education or had glasses. Or the Siege of Hue City where the North Vietamese army slaughtered half the civilin populace because they had different beliefs then them. And how helped save the rest of them those "Rasict bastards" the Americans fighting and dying in a strange land for someone elses freedom.
Religious nutballs in America always get taken down and are highly unpopular. My number one example is prohibition when religious groups got Alchol banned and then it was overturned because of how unpopular it was.
9/11 was an unprovoked attack by Islamo-Facists trying to impose their will on everybody else in the world.
Ever hear of OPEC buddy they control the Oil in the middle east. They are made up of almost entirely of Middle-eastern sheiks whose families have been in control of their local region for hundreds of years. Plus only 30% of oil used in America comes from the Middle East most of are oil is from North and South America.
Those pesky Chinese sneaky little bastards running people over with tanks and purposely underminning the world economy for their own Imperalistic wants. Chairman Mao would be so pleased.
TL:DR Your hatred for America and reasons for why it's bad is extemely ignorant and rife with lies and illogical hatred for a Country that keep the world free from Nazis, pyscho Japanesse troops who had a thing for rape, and invented almost all the technology that makes life better for everyone. Because without America Fakku wouldn't exist.
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chriton wrote...
WesternWarrior wrote...
American's historically are a xenophobic, racist people with little to no redeeming quality to their name after it's independence. America itself has also been built on the backs of hundreds of millions of dead minorities; take the Jackson Administration Indian Removal policy for example, it effectively expanded American territory into the rich Mississippi Valley and killed and removed hundreds of Indian settlements in that process. Or perhaps take the Mexican-American war where the U.S basically took California and New Mexico from Mexico and payed them a shitty price to cover up the fact that they beat up a weaker nation, also funny enough, one of the factors contributing to the war was the idea that America's racial and moral superiority allowed them to travel across the continent and proclaim it's Manifest Destiny over the North American continent.How about America's treatment of the Vietnamese? My Lai is a fine example of American brutality, fear and racism of other peoples. History has proven that America is always wrong on the race/religion question, the founders got it right right with the secularism idea, but the fact remains that the Evangelist are happy to try and put a stop to that.
To directly answer your question; It's because America is always afraid of outsiders, they hate anything that is foreign and non-American and perceive any nation that might threaten America in any way as America's enemy. The media got a cycle see, where they scare the living shit out of people so they conform and listen to their corporate masters. 9/11 was a attack on America for it's imperial ambitions in a region where it should have no say and most American's either don't care or don't know about American meddling. So, they scare the shit out of the population to support a war that allows them to rob the Middle East of it's oil, keeping America's power checked in the region while keeping those pesky Chinese and Russians away.
It's all apart of the plan to keep America's dominance over the world and keep making the rich rich and the politicians elected.
Wow really man lets go over your post here
America is one of the most diverse and free places in the world I don't know where you live but I can tell you that 90% of countries in the world you talk shit about the government and secert police are banging down your door at 4 a.m.
I really hate it when people neglect to say that the indians started all the fighting in what is now the United States of America by slaughtering every europeon settlement after forcing them to live in shitty places with poor soil. If you can't finish a fight don't start one at all.
The Mexican-American war: MEXICO STARTED IT WHEN THEY ATTACKED U.S FORCES IN TEXAS
My lai was unfortantly caused by men who had itchy trigger fingers after enduring years of brutal and immoral tactics like when the viet cong strapped bombs to their kids and blew them up. And Let's talk about the Commies set up death camps after the war where they killed off anyone with a school education or had glasses. Or the Siege of Hue City where the North Vietamese army slaughtered half the civilin populace because they had different beliefs then them. And how helped save the rest of them those "Rasict bastards" the Americans fighting and dying in a strange land for someone elses freedom.
Religious nutballs in America always get taken down and are highly unpopular. My number one example is prohibition when religious groups got Alchol banned and then it was overturned because of how unpopular it was.
9/11 was an unprovoked attack by Islamo-Facists trying to impose their will on everybody else in the world.
Ever hear of OPEC buddy they control the Oil in the middle east. They are made up of almost entirely of Middle-eastern sheiks whose families have been in control of their local region for hundreds of years. Plus only 30% of oil used in America comes from the Middle East most of are oil is from North and South America.
Those pesky Chinese sneaky little bastards running people over with tanks and purposely underminning the world economy for their own Imperalistic wants. Chairman Mao would be so pleased.
TL:DR Your hatred for America and reasons for why it's bad is extemely ignorant and rife with lies and illogical hatred for a Country that keep the world free from Nazis, pyscho Japanesse troops who had a thing for rape, and invented almost all the technology that makes life better for everyone. Because without America Fakku wouldn't exist.
Well America has had a history of not accepting immigrants in the past such as the Know Nothing party or the American Party, Protestants objection to the Catholics (usually Irish) which usually resulted in conflict, Supreme Order of Caucasians who were against Chinese Immigrants, the Immigration Restriction League who opposed southern and eastern Europeans, Japanese American internment, and the KKK (who are anti-immigrant and have other terrible beliefs). America did protect Nazis http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/14/us/14nazis.html
The Annexation of Texas led to the Mexican American War.
In addition, America has a problem with trying to spread Democracy to some countries that do not want it.
I really hate the fact that people tend to neglect the fact the settlers invaded the Native American's land spread disease and slaughtered them by groups like the Paxton Boys which decreased their population, settlers still took their despite treaties like the Greenville Treaty and they were removed from their land(Indian Removal Act or Reservations), Indian boarding schools where they were forced Native Americans to abandon their culture.
America is indeed a diverse and great country (I'm from America), but it does have a past of hate towards immigrants and the inhumane treatment of Native Americans.
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say what! wrote...
chriton wrote...
WesternWarrior wrote...
American's historically are a xenophobic, racist people with little to no redeeming quality to their name after it's independence. America itself has also been built on the backs of hundreds of millions of dead minorities; take the Jackson Administration Indian Removal policy for example, it effectively expanded American territory into the rich Mississippi Valley and killed and removed hundreds of Indian settlements in that process. Or perhaps take the Mexican-American war where the U.S basically took California and New Mexico from Mexico and payed them a shitty price to cover up the fact that they beat up a weaker nation, also funny enough, one of the factors contributing to the war was the idea that America's racial and moral superiority allowed them to travel across the continent and proclaim it's Manifest Destiny over the North American continent.How about America's treatment of the Vietnamese? My Lai is a fine example of American brutality, fear and racism of other peoples. History has proven that America is always wrong on the race/religion question, the founders got it right right with the secularism idea, but the fact remains that the Evangelist are happy to try and put a stop to that.
To directly answer your question; It's because America is always afraid of outsiders, they hate anything that is foreign and non-American and perceive any nation that might threaten America in any way as America's enemy. The media got a cycle see, where they scare the living shit out of people so they conform and listen to their corporate masters. 9/11 was a attack on America for it's imperial ambitions in a region where it should have no say and most American's either don't care or don't know about American meddling. So, they scare the shit out of the population to support a war that allows them to rob the Middle East of it's oil, keeping America's power checked in the region while keeping those pesky Chinese and Russians away.
It's all apart of the plan to keep America's dominance over the world and keep making the rich rich and the politicians elected.
Wow really man lets go over your post here
America is one of the most diverse and free places in the world I don't know where you live but I can tell you that 90% of countries in the world you talk shit about the government and secert police are banging down your door at 4 a.m.
I really hate it when people neglect to say that the indians started all the fighting in what is now the United States of America by slaughtering every europeon settlement after forcing them to live in shitty places with poor soil. If you can't finish a fight don't start one at all.
The Mexican-American war: MEXICO STARTED IT WHEN THEY ATTACKED U.S FORCES IN TEXAS
My lai was unfortantly caused by men who had itchy trigger fingers after enduring years of brutal and immoral tactics like when the viet cong strapped bombs to their kids and blew them up. And Let's talk about the Commies set up death camps after the war where they killed off anyone with a school education or had glasses. Or the Siege of Hue City where the North Vietamese army slaughtered half the civilin populace because they had different beliefs then them. And how helped save the rest of them those "Rasict bastards" the Americans fighting and dying in a strange land for someone elses freedom.
Religious nutballs in America always get taken down and are highly unpopular. My number one example is prohibition when religious groups got Alchol banned and then it was overturned because of how unpopular it was.
9/11 was an unprovoked attack by Islamo-Facists trying to impose their will on everybody else in the world.
Ever hear of OPEC buddy they control the Oil in the middle east. They are made up of almost entirely of Middle-eastern sheiks whose families have been in control of their local region for hundreds of years. Plus only 30% of oil used in America comes from the Middle East most of are oil is from North and South America.
Those pesky Chinese sneaky little bastards running people over with tanks and purposely underminning the world economy for their own Imperalistic wants. Chairman Mao would be so pleased.
TL:DR Your hatred for America and reasons for why it's bad is extemely ignorant and rife with lies and illogical hatred for a Country that keep the world free from Nazis, pyscho Japanesse troops who had a thing for rape, and invented almost all the technology that makes life better for everyone. Because without America Fakku wouldn't exist.
Well America has had a history of not accepting immigrants in the past such as the Know Nothing party or the American Party, Protestants objection to the Catholics (usually Irish) which usually resulted in conflict, Supreme Order of Caucasians who were against Chinese Immigrants, the Immigration Restriction League who opposed southern and eastern Europeans, Japanese American internment, and the KKK (who are anti-immigrant and have other terrible beliefs). America did protect Nazis http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/14/us/14nazis.html
The Annexation of Texas led to the Mexican American War.
In addition, America has a problem with trying to spread Democracy to some countries that do not want it.
I really hate the fact that people tend to neglect the fact the settlers invaded the Native American's land spread disease and slaughtered them by groups like the Paxton Boys which decreased their population, settlers still took their despite treaties like the Greenville Treaty and they were removed from their land(Indian Removal Act or Reservations), Indian boarding schools where they were forced Native Americans to abandon their culture.
America is indeed a diverse and great country (I'm from America), but it does have a past of hate towards immigrants and the inhumane treatment of Native Americans.
America actually protected American citizens freedom of speech despite what they beleved was socialist and anti-jewish. That's the thing about freedom of speech for everyone that preaches freedom and eqauility there's another that preaches hatred.
Annexation of Texas which came about after american settlers took there area which the Spainish orginally promised them and then they wanted to join America. The conflict began over where the boarder was the Rio Grande or the Pecos river. Mexican troops attacked several American postions which lead to the war.
I really hate how people neglect to metion that the indians slaughtered helpless weomen and children. How they slaughtered all settlements that came before jamestown. Then they killed 1/3 of that settlement. How they spread syphilis. The indians were noble savages they were just savages with really no redeaming quailites.
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chriton wrote...
say what! wrote...
chriton wrote...
WesternWarrior wrote...
American's historically are a xenophobic, racist people with little to no redeeming quality to their name after it's independence. America itself has also been built on the backs of hundreds of millions of dead minorities; take the Jackson Administration Indian Removal policy for example, it effectively expanded American territory into the rich Mississippi Valley and killed and removed hundreds of Indian settlements in that process. Or perhaps take the Mexican-American war where the U.S basically took California and New Mexico from Mexico and payed them a shitty price to cover up the fact that they beat up a weaker nation, also funny enough, one of the factors contributing to the war was the idea that America's racial and moral superiority allowed them to travel across the continent and proclaim it's Manifest Destiny over the North American continent.How about America's treatment of the Vietnamese? My Lai is a fine example of American brutality, fear and racism of other peoples. History has proven that America is always wrong on the race/religion question, the founders got it right right with the secularism idea, but the fact remains that the Evangelist are happy to try and put a stop to that.
To directly answer your question; It's because America is always afraid of outsiders, they hate anything that is foreign and non-American and perceive any nation that might threaten America in any way as America's enemy. The media got a cycle see, where they scare the living shit out of people so they conform and listen to their corporate masters. 9/11 was a attack on America for it's imperial ambitions in a region where it should have no say and most American's either don't care or don't know about American meddling. So, they scare the shit out of the population to support a war that allows them to rob the Middle East of it's oil, keeping America's power checked in the region while keeping those pesky Chinese and Russians away.
It's all apart of the plan to keep America's dominance over the world and keep making the rich rich and the politicians elected.
Wow really man lets go over your post here
America is one of the most diverse and free places in the world I don't know where you live but I can tell you that 90% of countries in the world you talk shit about the government and secert police are banging down your door at 4 a.m.
I really hate it when people neglect to say that the indians started all the fighting in what is now the United States of America by slaughtering every europeon settlement after forcing them to live in shitty places with poor soil. If you can't finish a fight don't start one at all.
The Mexican-American war: MEXICO STARTED IT WHEN THEY ATTACKED U.S FORCES IN TEXAS
My lai was unfortantly caused by men who had itchy trigger fingers after enduring years of brutal and immoral tactics like when the viet cong strapped bombs to their kids and blew them up. And Let's talk about the Commies set up death camps after the war where they killed off anyone with a school education or had glasses. Or the Siege of Hue City where the North Vietamese army slaughtered half the civilin populace because they had different beliefs then them. And how helped save the rest of them those "Rasict bastards" the Americans fighting and dying in a strange land for someone elses freedom.
Religious nutballs in America always get taken down and are highly unpopular. My number one example is prohibition when religious groups got Alchol banned and then it was overturned because of how unpopular it was.
9/11 was an unprovoked attack by Islamo-Facists trying to impose their will on everybody else in the world.
Ever hear of OPEC buddy they control the Oil in the middle east. They are made up of almost entirely of Middle-eastern sheiks whose families have been in control of their local region for hundreds of years. Plus only 30% of oil used in America comes from the Middle East most of are oil is from North and South America.
Those pesky Chinese sneaky little bastards running people over with tanks and purposely underminning the world economy for their own Imperalistic wants. Chairman Mao would be so pleased.
TL:DR Your hatred for America and reasons for why it's bad is extemely ignorant and rife with lies and illogical hatred for a Country that keep the world free from Nazis, pyscho Japanesse troops who had a thing for rape, and invented almost all the technology that makes life better for everyone. Because without America Fakku wouldn't exist.
Well America has had a history of not accepting immigrants in the past such as the Know Nothing party or the American Party, Protestants objection to the Catholics (usually Irish) which usually resulted in conflict, Supreme Order of Caucasians who were against Chinese Immigrants, the Immigration Restriction League who opposed southern and eastern Europeans, Japanese American internment, and the KKK (who are anti-immigrant and have other terrible beliefs). America did protect Nazis http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/14/us/14nazis.html
The Annexation of Texas led to the Mexican American War.
In addition, America has a problem with trying to spread Democracy to some countries that do not want it.
I really hate the fact that people tend to neglect the fact the settlers invaded the Native American's land spread disease and slaughtered them by groups like the Paxton Boys which decreased their population, settlers still took their despite treaties like the Greenville Treaty and they were removed from their land(Indian Removal Act or Reservations), Indian boarding schools where they were forced Native Americans to abandon their culture.
America is indeed a diverse and great country (I'm from America), but it does have a past of hate towards immigrants and the inhumane treatment of Native Americans.
America actually protected American citizens freedom of speech despite what they beleved was socialist and anti-jewish. That's the thing about freedom of speech for everyone that preaches freedom and eqauility there's another that preaches hatred.
Annexation of Texas which came about after american settlers took there area which the Spainish orginally promised them and then they wanted to join America. The conflict began over where the boarder was the Rio Grande or the Pecos river. Mexican troops attacked several American postions which lead to the war.
I really hate how people neglect to metion that the indians slaughtered helpless weomen and children. How they slaughtered all settlements that came before jamestown. Then they killed 1/3 of that settlement. How they spread syphilis. The indians were noble savages they were just savages with really no redeaming quailites.
I really hate the fact that people think the settlers were justified in taking the Native Americans land and that the Native Americans are at fault because they were protecting their land. The settlers can also be considered savage if you look at the Bacon's Rebellion where Nathaniel Bacon slaughtered women and children Native Americans and attacked the innocent Pamunkey Indians who were allies with England.
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chriton wrote...
America is one of the most diverse and free places in the world I don't know where you live but I can tell you that 90% of countries in the world you talk shit about the government and secert police are banging down your door at 4 a.m.Diverse? Perhaps. Free? You should already be familiar with the Patriot Act (warrant-less wiretaps), TSA screenings, SOPA, and internet kill switch. Don't forget the militarization of local police. Not to mention that due to our laws the average American commits three felonies a day.
I also wish to note that according to the hereitage foundation & the Wall street Journal we rank 9th in economic freedom behind countries such as Denmark, Switzerland, Canada, and Australia. You aren't free and you need to wake up and realize that soon.
I really hate it when people neglect to say that the indians started all the fighting in what is now the United States of America by slaughtering every europeon settlement after forcing them to live in shitty places with poor soil. If you can't finish a fight don't start one at all.
You claim we started the conflict, when you invaded our territory to set up your colonies. Eventually, after several conflicts, you rounded us up, marched us on the trail of tears and now, enforce a federal law that forces native Americans to live in poverty.
9/11 was an unprovoked attack by Islamo-Facists trying to impose their will on everybody else in the world.
9/11 is directly related to the flawed U.S foreign policy. Research into U.S foreign policy and you'll begin to see why Arab nations are not fond of us. Hell, if you won't do the research yourself. Watch a few Ron Paul videos and you'll learn a few things. Yes, some elements of Islamo-facist hate us for our ways but, not all of them are jumping on the Jihad bandwagon because of "our freedoms". Islamo-facism is a convenient false flag for revoking more of our freedoms (like the TSA screenings, Patriot Act, etc). The media is lying to you, the government is lying to you.
Those pesky Chinese sneaky little bastards running people over with tanks and purposely underminning the world economy for their own Imperalistic wants. Chairman Mao would be so pleased.
Cycle of nation building. Eventually, every developed country goes through the Imperialistic phase. England, France Spain, & Portugal countries did it in the 1700's. We did it in the 1800 with our westward expansion. Japan did it starting with the japan-Russia War in 1904-5. Their invasion of Mainland China (after the collapse of the silk trade) and other surrounding Asian countries.
You have an overzealous love for a country that is by no means perfect. That's okay, we are a young nation and we will make mistakes as we make our way through the centuries. Something you need to realize is you are indoctrinated by the media, your school, your government that America is the paragon of society when in fact, it is a lie. The country isn't as well off as they tell you. Our infrastructure is crumbling around us. 70% of bridge are considered unsafe. We're deep in debt because the populace was asleep while the political class had a field day with the countries credit card. The government is corrupt. The media is biased when you have men like Jim crammer parroting the "all is well" message from wall street all the way up until the collapse.
TL:DR. Time to wake up Dorothy, you're not in Kansas anymore.
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I can't believe this thread has gone on for nine pages. to me the answer is obvious:
due to the continueing deteriation of our public education system, the majority of americans are ignorant and easily influenced. knowledge is power. subjects with power are a threat to the rulers. why do you think education funding is one of the first things to be cut in the name of budget balancing.
/thread.
due to the continueing deteriation of our public education system, the majority of americans are ignorant and easily influenced. knowledge is power. subjects with power are a threat to the rulers. why do you think education funding is one of the first things to be cut in the name of budget balancing.
/thread.
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say what! wrote...
chriton wrote...
say what! wrote...
chriton wrote...
WesternWarrior wrote...
American's historically are a xenophobic, racist people with little to no redeeming quality to their name after it's independence. America itself has also been built on the backs of hundreds of millions of dead minorities; take the Jackson Administration Indian Removal policy for example, it effectively expanded American territory into the rich Mississippi Valley and killed and removed hundreds of Indian settlements in that process. Or perhaps take the Mexican-American war where the U.S basically took California and New Mexico from Mexico and payed them a shitty price to cover up the fact that they beat up a weaker nation, also funny enough, one of the factors contributing to the war was the idea that America's racial and moral superiority allowed them to travel across the continent and proclaim it's Manifest Destiny over the North American continent.How about America's treatment of the Vietnamese? My Lai is a fine example of American brutality, fear and racism of other peoples. History has proven that America is always wrong on the race/religion question, the founders got it right right with the secularism idea, but the fact remains that the Evangelist are happy to try and put a stop to that.
To directly answer your question; It's because America is always afraid of outsiders, they hate anything that is foreign and non-American and perceive any nation that might threaten America in any way as America's enemy. The media got a cycle see, where they scare the living shit out of people so they conform and listen to their corporate masters. 9/11 was a attack on America for it's imperial ambitions in a region where it should have no say and most American's either don't care or don't know about American meddling. So, they scare the shit out of the population to support a war that allows them to rob the Middle East of it's oil, keeping America's power checked in the region while keeping those pesky Chinese and Russians away.
It's all apart of the plan to keep America's dominance over the world and keep making the rich rich and the politicians elected.
Wow really man lets go over your post here
America is one of the most diverse and free places in the world I don't know where you live but I can tell you that 90% of countries in the world you talk shit about the government and secert police are banging down your door at 4 a.m.
I really hate it when people neglect to say that the indians started all the fighting in what is now the United States of America by slaughtering every europeon settlement after forcing them to live in shitty places with poor soil. If you can't finish a fight don't start one at all.
The Mexican-American war: MEXICO STARTED IT WHEN THEY ATTACKED U.S FORCES IN TEXAS
My lai was unfortantly caused by men who had itchy trigger fingers after enduring years of brutal and immoral tactics like when the viet cong strapped bombs to their kids and blew them up. And Let's talk about the Commies set up death camps after the war where they killed off anyone with a school education or had glasses. Or the Siege of Hue City where the North Vietamese army slaughtered half the civilin populace because they had different beliefs then them. And how helped save the rest of them those "Rasict bastards" the Americans fighting and dying in a strange land for someone elses freedom.
Religious nutballs in America always get taken down and are highly unpopular. My number one example is prohibition when religious groups got Alchol banned and then it was overturned because of how unpopular it was.
9/11 was an unprovoked attack by Islamo-Facists trying to impose their will on everybody else in the world.
Ever hear of OPEC buddy they control the Oil in the middle east. They are made up of almost entirely of Middle-eastern sheiks whose families have been in control of their local region for hundreds of years. Plus only 30% of oil used in America comes from the Middle East most of are oil is from North and South America.
Those pesky Chinese sneaky little bastards running people over with tanks and purposely underminning the world economy for their own Imperalistic wants. Chairman Mao would be so pleased.
TL:DR Your hatred for America and reasons for why it's bad is extemely ignorant and rife with lies and illogical hatred for a Country that keep the world free from Nazis, pyscho Japanesse troops who had a thing for rape, and invented almost all the technology that makes life better for everyone. Because without America Fakku wouldn't exist.
Well America has had a history of not accepting immigrants in the past such as the Know Nothing party or the American Party, Protestants objection to the Catholics (usually Irish) which usually resulted in conflict, Supreme Order of Caucasians who were against Chinese Immigrants, the Immigration Restriction League who opposed southern and eastern Europeans, Japanese American internment, and the KKK (who are anti-immigrant and have other terrible beliefs). America did protect Nazis http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/14/us/14nazis.html
The Annexation of Texas led to the Mexican American War.
In addition, America has a problem with trying to spread Democracy to some countries that do not want it.
I really hate the fact that people tend to neglect the fact the settlers invaded the Native American's land spread disease and slaughtered them by groups like the Paxton Boys which decreased their population, settlers still took their despite treaties like the Greenville Treaty and they were removed from their land(Indian Removal Act or Reservations), Indian boarding schools where they were forced Native Americans to abandon their culture.
America is indeed a diverse and great country (I'm from America), but it does have a past of hate towards immigrants and the inhumane treatment of Native Americans.
America actually protected American citizens freedom of speech despite what they beleved was socialist and anti-jewish. That's the thing about freedom of speech for everyone that preaches freedom and eqauility there's another that preaches hatred.
Annexation of Texas which came about after american settlers took there area which the Spainish orginally promised them and then they wanted to join America. The conflict began over where the boarder was the Rio Grande or the Pecos river. Mexican troops attacked several American postions which lead to the war.
I really hate how people neglect to metion that the indians slaughtered helpless weomen and children. How they slaughtered all settlements that came before jamestown. Then they killed 1/3 of that settlement. How they spread syphilis. The indians were noble savages they were just savages with really no redeaming quailites.
I really hate the fact that people think the settlers were justified in taking the Native Americans land and that the Native Americans are at fault because they were protecting their land. The settlers can also be considered savage if you look at the Bacon's Rebellion where Nathaniel Bacon slaughtered women and children Native Americans and attacked the innocent Pamunkey Indians who were allies with England.
You mean the settlers that landed in land that wasn't being used by the indians.
@FPOD I know the government is beathing down are necks and Obama and his soft tyranny needs to end. The Liberal media machine lying to people everyday not fully reporting on stories or making up complete lies. Compaired to most of the world save Switzerland? We're pretty damn free.
Thats the cycle of nations it happened to every culture and people. Even today slavery is still legal in certain middle-eastern countries.
I know that every nation goes through imperalism at some point. I was being semi-sarcastic about the chinese part but Running people over with tanks is pretty fucking evil.
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Personally, and I know I'm late to the discussion and its likely been said... but extremists tend to lower the bar about a certain sect that they are a part of. They instill fear and unease into anyone unfamiliar with the normal, or "calmer" majorities that they are from. Take, for example, the Westboro Baptist Church.
Now, to anyone unfamiliar with the general idea of this sect of religion, area and/or religion in general... If you showed them a clip of even a quarter of the things this "church" does, most likely that person would be utterly repulsed and terrified. This feeling would then likely carry over to anything that remotely involves Westboro, churches, of the Baptist community, even though the WBC is a small, family-run place that has no standing whatsoever.
It's all about previous knowledge, and open minds. If you are introduced to anything without previous knowledge, and the the thing you first see about that subject is negative... that negative connotation will likely stick with you first and foremost when anything with a connection to that subject is brought up again. That, in my opinion, is why the word muslim, and Islam, and Quaran strike unease into most people who had so little knowledge of the culture and religion to begin with. For many, their first brush with the culture was unfortunately 9/11, and not a pleasant foot to start off on, and its poisoned minds and turned stomachs ever since.
Now, to anyone unfamiliar with the general idea of this sect of religion, area and/or religion in general... If you showed them a clip of even a quarter of the things this "church" does, most likely that person would be utterly repulsed and terrified. This feeling would then likely carry over to anything that remotely involves Westboro, churches, of the Baptist community, even though the WBC is a small, family-run place that has no standing whatsoever.
It's all about previous knowledge, and open minds. If you are introduced to anything without previous knowledge, and the the thing you first see about that subject is negative... that negative connotation will likely stick with you first and foremost when anything with a connection to that subject is brought up again. That, in my opinion, is why the word muslim, and Islam, and Quaran strike unease into most people who had so little knowledge of the culture and religion to begin with. For many, their first brush with the culture was unfortunately 9/11, and not a pleasant foot to start off on, and its poisoned minds and turned stomachs ever since.
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In my opinion, they don't just fear Muslims. They fear everyone. After 9/11, it basically ushered in a new era of paranoia.
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I'm a muslim. And for those who uses the Al-quran's words to explain about violence, let me say these, Al-quran is an holy scripture in arabic language that uses the traditional Arabic language.That means every meaning in the Quran not only needs to be translated, but also needs to make further examination because due to the very old language,one word could be translated to numerous sentences.Therefore,you should not judge us,Muslims as violent peoples.As our own prophet Muhammad S.A.W is a peaceful person.
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chriton wrote...
You mean the settlers that landed in land that wasn't being used by the indians.So, it's perfectly fine to just take land that belongs to another group just because someone is not immediately occupying that spot? So, if I feel so inclined, whenever you leave your house. I can just walk in and claim it's mine now?
The Liberal media machine lying to people everyday not fully reporting on stories or making up complete lies.
Well, you're not completely indoctrinated yet so that's good. First, there is no liberal media. Whoever tells you about a liberal media that is withholding truth from us is probably a talk radio host or a corporate henchmen. The media is controlled by corporate interests who have made government interests the same as theirs.Read this book.
Compaired to most of the world save Switzerland? We're pretty damn free.
Again, you are being lied to. We are not free and we haven't been free for a while now. This is a result of the Neoconservatives turning the country into a police state for "our safety" and the Progressives trying to tax, legislate and regulate away every ounce of choice, consequences of our choices and creating a culture where the populace views people as members of a group instead of individuals.
What freedoms we have left will end soon anyways.
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Mr.Shaggnificent wrote...
I can't believe this thread has gone on for nine pages. to me the answer is obvious:due to the continueing deteriation of our public education system, the majority of americans are ignorant and easily influenced. knowledge is power. subjects with power are a threat to the rulers. why do you think education funding is one of the first things to be cut in the name of budget balancing.
/thread.
Oh man, how I love your answer.
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chriton wrote...
I really hate how people neglect to metion that the indians slaughtered helpless weomen and children. How they slaughtered all settlements that came before jamestown. Then they killed 1/3 of that settlement. How they spread syphilis. The indians were noble savages they were just savages with really no redeaming quailites.
That's just stupid. It's the same logic used by essentially every racist asshole ever. "they were just savages"? They had been living there for ten fucking thousand years before people with your mindset came in and purposefully spread SMALLPOX, which I remind you killed seventy million Native Americans in the first generation it was introduced, or OVER HALF of them. The only reason we even got syphilis was because of raping the natives and such. And frankly, we got off easy: Use condoms or just don't bang everything in sight! We have penicillin, so it doesn't even matter anymore, while if smallpox got out, it could easily kill tens or even hundreds of millions of people.
Oh, no, they were not absolute saints. But the people who invaded America, the people with your thoughts, where a hundred times worse.
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The stereotype that Americans fear/hate Muslims is just as poorly founded as the one that says Muslims are violent and insane.
I don't fear Muslims.
None of my friends do.
Only a few people are still actively afraid of Muslims in general.
I don't fear Muslims.
None of my friends do.
Only a few people are still actively afraid of Muslims in general.
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Fearing Muslims is just as stupid as fearing Jews because of that David Duke crap.
That said, I have to wonder what's up with Muslims today and them practicing crap like burqas and repressing women. Aren't those ideals In Islam only during RECENT times? So why the heck do they dedicate themselves to it as if it is their life? I think those lunatics in the middle east are quite ignorant, to be honest. Burqas were never part of the religion. Only a silly recommendation by Allah to wear clothes which cover your breasts, as opposed to men who bare their chests! <_<
Islam today is not the same as the Islam of yesterday. They are going even more backwards than their ancestors.
If I recall, in the olden days the middle east was actually one of the most advanced places in the world, and particularly with women too. (Where do you think ARABIC belly dancing came from?)
And nowhere in the Quron does it say anywhere that forbids women to do anything, except that "The earning of a man shall be twice that of a woman" or something along those lines, which is because the wife is supposed to stay home and take care of her family. But even that isn't supposed to be a divine commandment, and it's not a necessary practice in our liberal society today.
I think all this "Islamic" idiocy today is part of the present instead of the religion itself. To back up my claim, the Qur'On does not say ANYWHERE that you are permitted to hurt your wife if she cheats on you or whatnot. I forgot what exactly it said, but the accurate translation was that "You must leave her respectfully and honorably."
So why the fuck are poor Muslim women getting acid thrown at them, or being killed in Canada today by their fathers because they wanted a boyfriend?
I'll stress that I believe all spiritual aspects of the Abrahamic religions would be better off eliminated from society, but at the same time I am getting tired of people being not constructive with Islam.
This radical Islamic behavior are products of our modern day society. The Middle East and many other "Muslims" today are absolutely IDIOTS since they've hijacked their own religion with ignorance! And all the stupid "Kings" who preach Islam don't even give a damn about their own religion because they eat pork! The worst part is they DO know better because they have to witness women around the world every day! But who's gonna stop them from continuing to rule their dictatorships? They make so much money, they don't even give a damn about anyone but themselves! Does this fattass with double chin really look like he appeals to Islam's practices of modesty?
tl;dr: The King of Saudi Arabia, leader of Afghanistan, and all the rest could go fuck themselves. Such Chauvinism we see today in Islam was NEVER part of the religion until recently, and their ridiculous dictatorships are to blame for enforcing that idea!
While I'm done my rant on burqas and other idiocy of modern times, I'd also like to note against the discrimination of Jews also being a product of Modern Times. In the past, the Jews actually sought refuge to Muslim areas of the world because the Muslims would leave them alone, as opposed to the Christians during Shakespeare's time. The Jews just paid a tax because they were rich bankers (Because that is ALL they were ALLOWED to do by the Christians!), and the Muslims left them entirely alone. Israel does not justify the hate against Jews.
That said, I have to wonder what's up with Muslims today and them practicing crap like burqas and repressing women. Aren't those ideals In Islam only during RECENT times? So why the heck do they dedicate themselves to it as if it is their life? I think those lunatics in the middle east are quite ignorant, to be honest. Burqas were never part of the religion. Only a silly recommendation by Allah to wear clothes which cover your breasts, as opposed to men who bare their chests! <_<
Islam today is not the same as the Islam of yesterday. They are going even more backwards than their ancestors.
If I recall, in the olden days the middle east was actually one of the most advanced places in the world, and particularly with women too. (Where do you think ARABIC belly dancing came from?)
And nowhere in the Quron does it say anywhere that forbids women to do anything, except that "The earning of a man shall be twice that of a woman" or something along those lines, which is because the wife is supposed to stay home and take care of her family. But even that isn't supposed to be a divine commandment, and it's not a necessary practice in our liberal society today.
I think all this "Islamic" idiocy today is part of the present instead of the religion itself. To back up my claim, the Qur'On does not say ANYWHERE that you are permitted to hurt your wife if she cheats on you or whatnot. I forgot what exactly it said, but the accurate translation was that "You must leave her respectfully and honorably."
So why the fuck are poor Muslim women getting acid thrown at them, or being killed in Canada today by their fathers because they wanted a boyfriend?
I'll stress that I believe all spiritual aspects of the Abrahamic religions would be better off eliminated from society, but at the same time I am getting tired of people being not constructive with Islam.
This radical Islamic behavior are products of our modern day society. The Middle East and many other "Muslims" today are absolutely IDIOTS since they've hijacked their own religion with ignorance! And all the stupid "Kings" who preach Islam don't even give a damn about their own religion because they eat pork! The worst part is they DO know better because they have to witness women around the world every day! But who's gonna stop them from continuing to rule their dictatorships? They make so much money, they don't even give a damn about anyone but themselves! Does this fattass with double chin really look like he appeals to Islam's practices of modesty?
tl;dr: The King of Saudi Arabia, leader of Afghanistan, and all the rest could go fuck themselves. Such Chauvinism we see today in Islam was NEVER part of the religion until recently, and their ridiculous dictatorships are to blame for enforcing that idea!
While I'm done my rant on burqas and other idiocy of modern times, I'd also like to note against the discrimination of Jews also being a product of Modern Times. In the past, the Jews actually sought refuge to Muslim areas of the world because the Muslims would leave them alone, as opposed to the Christians during Shakespeare's time. The Jews just paid a tax because they were rich bankers (Because that is ALL they were ALLOWED to do by the Christians!), and the Muslims left them entirely alone. Israel does not justify the hate against Jews.
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mynameis832 wrote...
chriton wrote...
I really hate how people neglect to metion that the indians slaughtered helpless weomen and children. How they slaughtered all settlements that came before jamestown. Then they killed 1/3 of that settlement. How they spread syphilis. The indians were noble savages they were just savages with really no redeaming quailites.
That's just stupid. It's the same logic used by essentially every racist asshole ever. "they were just savages"? They had been living there for ten fucking thousand years before people with your mindset came in and purposefully spread SMALLPOX, which I remind you killed seventy million Native Americans in the first generation it was introduced, or OVER HALF of them. The only reason we even got syphilis was because of raping the natives and such. And frankly, we got off easy: Use condoms or just don't bang everything in sight! We have penicillin, so it doesn't even matter anymore, while if smallpox got out, it could easily kill tens or even hundreds of millions of people.
Oh, no, they were not absolute saints. But the people who invaded America, the people with your thoughts, where a hundred times worse.
Well I for one am glad there's not only a vaccine for Smallpox, and it's wiped out except for two labs in the entire world and people of Northern Europe background (I'm 1/2 Irish, 1/4 Scottish and 1/4 American Indian myself) have a natural immunity to Smallpox.
@FPOD I can't help but feel that your right. Corporate welfare is really one of the big issues that aren't talked about enough.
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chriton wrote...
WesternWarrior wrote...
American's historically are a xenophobic, racist people with little to no redeeming quality to their name after it's independence. America itself has also been built on the backs of hundreds of millions of dead minorities; take the Jackson Administration Indian Removal policy for example, it effectively expanded American territory into the rich Mississippi Valley and killed and removed hundreds of Indian settlements in that process. Or perhaps take the Mexican-American war where the U.S basically took California and New Mexico from Mexico and payed them a shitty price to cover up the fact that they beat up a weaker nation, also funny enough, one of the factors contributing to the war was the idea that America's racial and moral superiority allowed them to travel across the continent and proclaim it's Manifest Destiny over the North American continent.How about America's treatment of the Vietnamese? My Lai is a fine example of American brutality, fear and racism of other peoples. History has proven that America is always wrong on the race/religion question, the founders got it right right with the secularism idea, but the fact remains that the Evangelist are happy to try and put a stop to that.
To directly answer your question; It's because America is always afraid of outsiders, they hate anything that is foreign and non-American and perceive any nation that might threaten America in any way as America's enemy. The media got a cycle see, where they scare the living shit out of people so they conform and listen to their corporate masters. 9/11 was a attack on America for it's imperial ambitions in a region where it should have no say and most American's either don't care or don't know about American meddling. So, they scare the shit out of the population to support a war that allows them to rob the Middle East of it's oil, keeping America's power checked in the region while keeping those pesky Chinese and Russians away.
It's all apart of the plan to keep America's dominance over the world and keep making the rich rich and the politicians elected.
Wow really man lets go over your post here
America is one of the most diverse and free places in the world I don't know where you live but I can tell you that 90% of countries in the world you talk shit about the government and secert police are banging down your door at 4 a.m.
I really hate it when people neglect to say that the indians started all the fighting in what is now the United States of America by slaughtering every europeon settlement after forcing them to live in shitty places with poor soil. If you can't finish a fight don't start one at all.
The Mexican-American war: MEXICO STARTED IT WHEN THEY ATTACKED U.S FORCES IN TEXAS
My lai was unfortantly caused by men who had itchy trigger fingers after enduring years of brutal and immoral tactics like when the viet cong strapped bombs to their kids and blew them up. And Let's talk about the Commies set up death camps after the war where they killed off anyone with a school education or had glasses. Or the Siege of Hue City where the North Vietamese army slaughtered half the civilin populace because they had different beliefs then them. And how helped save the rest of them those "Rasict bastards" the Americans fighting and dying in a strange land for someone elses freedom.
Religious nutballs in America always get taken down and are highly unpopular. My number one example is prohibition when religious groups got Alchol banned and then it was overturned because of how unpopular it was.
9/11 was an unprovoked attack by Islamo-Facists trying to impose their will on everybody else in the world.
Ever hear of OPEC buddy they control the Oil in the middle east. They are made up of almost entirely of Middle-eastern sheiks whose families have been in control of their local region for hundreds of years. Plus only 30% of oil used in America comes from the Middle East most of are oil is from North and South America.
Those pesky Chinese sneaky little bastards running people over with tanks and purposely underminning the world economy for their own Imperalistic wants. Chairman Mao would be so pleased.
TL:DR Your hatred for America and reasons for why it's bad is extemely ignorant and rife with lies and illogical hatred for a Country that keep the world free from Nazis, pyscho Japanesse troops who had a thing for rape, and invented almost all the technology that makes life better for everyone. Because without America Fakku wouldn't exist.
Wow, how ignorant are you of your history to just blindly run your mouth at me to defend America when it's obviously at fault? Sounds like stupid nationalism to me. Let's review your post shall we?
1: I'm Canadian, so I we are basically on the same level, but I know for a fact that my government is not recording or monitoring my phone conversations while yours is according to the Patriot Act, so technically, I have more freedom then you.
America is a diverse nation, but it's history cannot be ignored, for example Japanese Internment during the 30s, that was freedom loving America, goes to show how much your government respects your freedom when they can take it away from anybody.
2: How about all those treaties the United States broke with the Indians to take their land from them? How about the expansion across the West and resettling the Mississippi? The United States believed in Manifest Destiny, that it was by right from some great providence that it would expand across the continent and spread "freedom." This lead to the relocation and deaths of thousands of Indians all at the expense of American expansionism to the west. Lands viewed as separate nations from the U.S. Your claim that the Native's started the war is hilarious, considering they lived on the land in the first place, from my point of view, they were defending their home from the European descended invaders. Your post is so disrespectful to the dead that even a arrogant bastard like me is shaking his head in pure shame.
3: Wrong again, Manifest Destiny says otherwise. True, Mexico "started" the war, but it was obvious that the U.S was itching to fight it. For one thing, The U.S worked hard to undermine Mexico by annexing Texas against their wishes, the ideal of Manifest Destiny, again, made American's believe in their racial superiority. Plus, it's well documented that the U.S wanted to conquer California long before the war and Polk even confided to his sectary that he wanted to take California. Plus, the war was very unpopular in the United States as well, viewed by most as an imperialist war. A congressman by the name of Abraham Lincoln famously asked Polk to point to the very spot where American blood was shed that started the war, he doubted what his government said and questioned his government.
3: Pointing out the Vietnamese crimes to cover up Americas? The problem with your argument is while the fighting was brutal and what the North did was equally as immoral and deserve no support for anything they have done. The North wasn't viewed as the aggressors, the Vietcong, the people who strapped bombs on and fight what you said above were actually from the South and viewed the U.S as a outside force trying to control the country, and rightly so, considering the U.S actually blocked elections because it knew the North would actually win those elections and unify both nations under a Communist government. Secondly, the things you mentioned above, about glasses and the educated was not actually Vietnam, but Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge, thus proving your knowledge on historic matters. While the North was responsible for some evil and immoral war crimes, we cannot forget the U.S using agent orange on the countryside, which deformed hundreds of Vietnamese unborn babies and ruined the lives of millions of other Vietnamese people, look up Agent Orange on Google or Wikipedia and look at the pictures, then tell me that the U.S weren't immoral at all. Also ask those people during the 60s if America was fighting for freedom, and if you still believe the U.S was fighting for Freedom in Vietnam, read the Pentagon Papers and that should tell you how wrong you are.
4: I doubt that, look at the Republican Primaries and the Mosque issue, American's turn to religion for guidance, George W. Bush was a nut-ball religious type citing that "God told him to go to war." If that isn't religion insanity, I don't know what is.
5: Islamo-Fascist? Did you learn that word while mindlessly watching Glenn Beck? I say you did because your so damn wrong about that also. Al Qaeda main mission is to impose Islam in the Middle East because it views Westernization of the Middle East as immoral and wrong, and while I disagree with this extreme view, I sympathize with the people who have to live under American meddling in the region. The U.S has had a long history of interfering in the region and the terrorist want the U.S to leave them alone, and the U.S, wanting to secure it's power in the Middle East. It was the U.S that propped up many dictatorships in the Middle East, including Egypt and Saudi Arabia, it was the U.S that created the Islamic Regime in Iran by interfering and overthrowing it's democratic leader, it was the U.S that sowed the seeds of discontent that lead to the reprisals of 9/11. I hate to sound like a monster also, but it's the pragmatic truth, 3,000 people killed on 9/11 compared to the thousands upon thousands of peoples the U.S and it's allies has killed in the Middle East is almost a shame to even compare.
6: Yes, I have heard of OPEC, but that doesn't mean the U.S didn't interfere with the oil or is trying to. Exxon Mobile and other companies from the U.S and Britain got great, massive contracts from the government to drill and get that oil, making big oil a lot of money and giving the U.S more influence in the Middle East, in the end, it's still about of oil. If you honestly believe the U.S went into Iraq to save it's people, your sadly mistaken, it's also a strange fact that most of the oil contractors in the region are American and not Iraqi.
7: Wow, your stupidity has no bounds does it? China isn't as bad as you claim it is, your accusing them of Imperialism while your nation is the largest Imperial power in the past few years? Your another right-wing American who watches to much Fox and utterly believes any pseudo-historical dumbassery that the right spews. Chairman Mao would be proud that the nation has long since abandon it's communist ideals and embraced Western Capitalism. I'm also sure he'd be proud of you for blindly supporting the government and any wrong-doing ever done by America, Communist are big on people who obey.
Your a ignorant right-wing nationalist and if you don't read my post above, your not worth the time it takes to make a response, maybe you'll learn something. I love old America, not the one that has been created by the new age.
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You see, PEOPLE OF THE WORLD see Muslims mainly as those who live in Arab and Those parts of the world, without knowing that ISLAM is a religion and not a race.
Have YOU ever wondered that maybe the one's who did all the war and and bombing and more war were never Muslims to begin with? AND are only pretending to be so to make the strongest [America] Power hate Muslims.
AnD their reason?? For the sake of their respective religions, whatever they might be. They can lie about being a muslim, because it only takes a sentence to do that, "I'm a Muslim" or "I believe in Allah". and there you have it.
Have YOU ever wondered that maybe the one's who did all the war and and bombing and more war were never Muslims to begin with? AND are only pretending to be so to make the strongest [America] Power hate Muslims.
AnD their reason?? For the sake of their respective religions, whatever they might be. They can lie about being a muslim, because it only takes a sentence to do that, "I'm a Muslim" or "I believe in Allah". and there you have it.
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WesternWarrior wrote...
chriton wrote...
WesternWarrior wrote...
American's historically are a xenophobic, racist people with little to no redeeming quality to their name after it's independence. America itself has also been built on the backs of hundreds of millions of dead minorities; take the Jackson Administration Indian Removal policy for example, it effectively expanded American territory into the rich Mississippi Valley and killed and removed hundreds of Indian settlements in that process. Or perhaps take the Mexican-American war where the U.S basically took California and New Mexico from Mexico and payed them a shitty price to cover up the fact that they beat up a weaker nation, also funny enough, one of the factors contributing to the war was the idea that America's racial and moral superiority allowed them to travel across the continent and proclaim it's Manifest Destiny over the North American continent.How about America's treatment of the Vietnamese? My Lai is a fine example of American brutality, fear and racism of other peoples. History has proven that America is always wrong on the race/religion question, the founders got it right right with the secularism idea, but the fact remains that the Evangelist are happy to try and put a stop to that.
To directly answer your question; It's because America is always afraid of outsiders, they hate anything that is foreign and non-American and perceive any nation that might threaten America in any way as America's enemy. The media got a cycle see, where they scare the living shit out of people so they conform and listen to their corporate masters. 9/11 was a attack on America for it's imperial ambitions in a region where it should have no say and most American's either don't care or don't know about American meddling. So, they scare the shit out of the population to support a war that allows them to rob the Middle East of it's oil, keeping America's power checked in the region while keeping those pesky Chinese and Russians away.
It's all apart of the plan to keep America's dominance over the world and keep making the rich rich and the politicians elected.
Wow really man lets go over your post here
America is one of the most diverse and free places in the world I don't know where you live but I can tell you that 90% of countries in the world you talk shit about the government and secert police are banging down your door at 4 a.m.
I really hate it when people neglect to say that the indians started all the fighting in what is now the United States of America by slaughtering every europeon settlement after forcing them to live in shitty places with poor soil. If you can't finish a fight don't start one at all.
The Mexican-American war: MEXICO STARTED IT WHEN THEY ATTACKED U.S FORCES IN TEXAS
My lai was unfortantly caused by men who had itchy trigger fingers after enduring years of brutal and immoral tactics like when the viet cong strapped bombs to their kids and blew them up. And Let's talk about the Commies set up death camps after the war where they killed off anyone with a school education or had glasses. Or the Siege of Hue City where the North Vietamese army slaughtered half the civilin populace because they had different beliefs then them. And how helped save the rest of them those "Rasict bastards" the Americans fighting and dying in a strange land for someone elses freedom.
Religious nutballs in America always get taken down and are highly unpopular. My number one example is prohibition when religious groups got Alchol banned and then it was overturned because of how unpopular it was.
9/11 was an unprovoked attack by Islamo-Facists trying to impose their will on everybody else in the world.
Ever hear of OPEC buddy they control the Oil in the middle east. They are made up of almost entirely of Middle-eastern sheiks whose families have been in control of their local region for hundreds of years. Plus only 30% of oil used in America comes from the Middle East most of are oil is from North and South America.
Those pesky Chinese sneaky little bastards running people over with tanks and purposely underminning the world economy for their own Imperalistic wants. Chairman Mao would be so pleased.
TL:DR Your hatred for America and reasons for why it's bad is extemely ignorant and rife with lies and illogical hatred for a Country that keep the world free from Nazis, pyscho Japanesse troops who had a thing for rape, and invented almost all the technology that makes life better for everyone. Because without America Fakku wouldn't exist.
Wow, how ignorant are you of your history to just blindly run your mouth at me to defend America when it's obviously at fault? Sounds like stupid nationalism to me. Let's review your post shall we?
1: I'm Canadian, so I we are basically on the same level, but I know for a fact that my government is not recording or monitoring my phone conversations while yours is according to the Patriot Act, so technically, I have more freedom then you.
America is a diverse nation, but it's history cannot be ignored, for example Japanese Internment during the 30s, that was freedom loving America, goes to show how much your government respects your freedom when they can take it away from anybody.
2: How about all those treaties the United States broke with the Indians to take their land from them? How about the expansion across the West and resettling the Mississippi? The United States believed in Manifest Destiny, that it was by right from some great providence that it would expand across the continent and spread "freedom." This lead to the relocation and deaths of thousands of Indians all at the expense of American expansionism to the west. Lands viewed as separate nations from the U.S. Your claim that the Native's started the war is hilarious, considering they lived on the land in the first place, from my point of view, they were defending their home from the European descended invaders. Your post is so disrespectful to the dead that even a arrogant bastard like me is shaking his head in pure shame.
3: Wrong again, Manifest Destiny says otherwise. True, Mexico "started" the war, but it was obvious that the U.S was itching to fight it. For one thing, The U.S worked hard to undermine Mexico by annexing Texas against their wishes, the ideal of Manifest Destiny, again, made American's believe in their racial superiority. Plus, it's well documented that the U.S wanted to conquer California long before the war and Polk even confided to his sectary that he wanted to take California. Plus, the war was very unpopular in the United States as well, viewed by most as an imperialist war. A congressman by the name of Abraham Lincoln famously asked Polk to point to the very spot where American blood was shed that started the war, he doubted what his government said and questioned his government.
3: Pointing out the Vietnamese crimes to cover up Americas? The problem with your argument is while the fighting was brutal and what the North did was equally as immoral and deserve no support for anything they have done. The North wasn't viewed as the aggressors, the Vietcong, the people who strapped bombs on and fight what you said above were actually from the South and viewed the U.S as a outside force trying to control the country, and rightly so, considering the U.S actually blocked elections because it knew the North would actually win those elections and unify both nations under a Communist government. Secondly, the things you mentioned above, about glasses and the educated was not actually Vietnam, but Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge, thus proving your knowledge on historic matters. While the North was responsible for some evil and immoral war crimes, we cannot forget the U.S using agent orange on the countryside, which deformed hundreds of Vietnamese unborn babies and ruined the lives of millions of other Vietnamese people, look up Agent Orange on Google or Wikipedia and look at the pictures, then tell me that the U.S weren't immoral at all. Also ask those people during the 60s if America was fighting for freedom, and if you still believe the U.S was fighting for Freedom in Vietnam, read the Pentagon Papers and that should tell you how wrong you are.
4: I doubt that, look at the Republican Primaries and the Mosque issue, American's turn to religion for guidance, George W. Bush was a nut-ball religious type citing that "God told him to go to war." If that isn't religion insanity, I don't know what is.
5: Islamo-Fascist? Did you learn that word while mindlessly watching Glenn Beck? I say you did because your so damn wrong about that also. Al Qaeda main mission is to impose Islam in the Middle East because it views Westernization of the Middle East as immoral and wrong, and while I disagree with this extreme view, I sympathize with the people who have to live under American meddling in the region. The U.S has had a long history of interfering in the region and the terrorist want the U.S to leave them alone, and the U.S, wanting to secure it's power in the Middle East. It was the U.S that propped up many dictatorships in the Middle East, including Egypt and Saudi Arabia, it was the U.S that created the Islamic Regime in Iran by interfering and overthrowing it's democratic leader, it was the U.S that sowed the seeds of discontent that lead to the reprisals of 9/11. I hate to sound like a monster also, but it's the pragmatic truth, 3,000 people killed on 9/11 compared to the thousands upon thousands of peoples the U.S and it's allies has killed in the Middle East is almost a shame to even compare.
6: Yes, I have heard of OPEC, but that doesn't mean the U.S didn't interfere with the oil or is trying to. Exxon Mobile and other companies from the U.S and Britain got great, massive contracts from the government to drill and get that oil, making big oil a lot of money and giving the U.S more influence in the Middle East, in the end, it's still about of oil. If you honestly believe the U.S went into Iraq to save it's people, your sadly mistaken, it's also a strange fact that most of the oil contractors in the region are American and not Iraqi.
7: Wow, your stupidity has no bounds does it? China isn't as bad as you claim it is, your accusing them of Imperialism while your nation is the largest Imperial power in the past few years? Your another right-wing American who watches to much Fox and utterly believes any pseudo-historical dumbassery that the right spews. Chairman Mao would be proud that the nation has long since abandon it's communist ideals and embraced Western Capitalism. I'm also sure he'd be proud of you for blindly supporting the government and any wrong-doing ever done by America, Communist are big on people who obey.
Your a ignorant right-wing nationalist and if you don't read my post above, your not worth the time it takes to make a response, maybe you'll learn something. I love old America, not the one that has been created by the new age.
I read your post and I really don't care about your post. It's easy to see all the bad things that America did but easy to forget the history behind it. You wanna point fingers at "racist" regimes during the past centuries look at Britain and Belgium for example. You forget what happened in Vietnam after the war in 1976-79. How they had a massive exodus of people because they were being killed. Your biased and Liberalized history didturbs me. Claiming you know History but only knowing Qausi-history that you were taught in high school. On another note I'm not a Right wing pundunt, do you think I'd be on Fakku if I was? So know who your talking to before you shreak your shril liberal views on me.