Why do we remember 9/11?
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K-1 wrote...
There have been terrorist attacks in other countries, even within the past year.Americans should not be egocentric and think that the only things that matter are those that happen in their own country. I say this as an American.
[font=verdana][color=green]QFT.
As I've said before, other countries suffer terrorist attacks, some more than most; for example, Pakistan, a country truly at the forefront of fighting terrorists. However, if I so recall, despite suffering from terrorist attacks the day before, the Pakistan and English teams still decided to play their test match. Why? As soon as you let terrorists stop you doing something that you would do naturally, they've already succeeded. Even on 7/7, people - including myself - still went on the buses. No terrorist is going to stop me going to town to buy food. No sir.
Also, another thing that annoys me, is the way Americans pronounce "Al-Qaeda". It's not "Al-Kai-da", but it's "Al-Kai-ee-da".
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I think it's because 9/11 happened by the hands of another nation whereas the tsunami was a natural cause. We still think about the hiroshima bomb or what the americans did in vietnam since they were all done by people.
We all remember how hitler's army killed millions, but we forget about tornados, tsunamis because, without sound cruel, 'shit happens'.
We can't go on cursing the wind and we can't spend our lives grieving for everything nature did. That's why we have wars, to retaliate (not that I think it's the best idea).
We all remember how hitler's army killed millions, but we forget about tornados, tsunamis because, without sound cruel, 'shit happens'.
We can't go on cursing the wind and we can't spend our lives grieving for everything nature did. That's why we have wars, to retaliate (not that I think it's the best idea).
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9/11 was an event that happened ten years ago that effected a lot of people in various ways in the US.
First off I guess you could say it scared people. People know that it's possible that they'll die to an accident, falling down a staircase, dropping a toaster in their bathtub or drown in a tsunami, but what they don't necessarily expect is to one day be killed, and in most mindsets I suppose that's more significant.
It's one of the larger killings of people to my knowledge that happened in the US specifically, and happened to landmarks that are pretty significant to the United States, and resulted in some pretty drastic measures, whether you agree with them or not.
There's more to add and maybe some of the things that I said aren't entirely accurate but this is mostly a preface to my next topic of interest being,
The majority of this thread has "deteriorated" or "developed" (depending on your opinion) into, remembering 9/11, is it good or bad.
There seems to be an issue in most cases where, in the world, people care about things at vastly different levels. This results in a variety of strange things, like people being offended by things, one example being "language." An example would be, you can't necessarily blame someone for using the word "rape," casually, but you also can't blame someone who was raped to be offended by it.
To transition this point over to this specific subject, I think that personally you cannot blame the people who care about 9/11 significantly, but you also cannot blame the people who don't care all that much and in some cases even if they make insensitive jokes, you can't really blame them, it's difficult for different people to understand each other and tip toe around things.
People don't necessarily mourn 9/11 as more important than the deaths of other people, it's just that it's very difficult to connect to the tsunami or terrorist attacks in other places, and the environments are different, and you cannot necessarily blame people for that. You can't expect people to be capable of mourning every death, and maybe it's admirable for those who can, but it's rather unrealistic.
As for the problems that lay behind 9/11, such as the spending money on the dead rather than living, or the use of it as an excuse to go to war. It may not be the most useful expenditure for humanity to spend dollars on the dead, but I personally cannot criticize it too harshly (necessarily!). Money is used in many ways and often times they're not the most useful ways, and maybe there are better uses of it, but people will be people.
In terms of an excuse to go to war, I don't really know the specific information about this, but it's unlikely at the very least that the government caused it to go to war (unless you believe the various conspiracy theories that I know nothing about), so while that may be bad, that shouldn't impact on if it's good to remember 9/11 or not.
This post seems a bit too, things can be too bad but that's just how the way they are...
So I think I'll put in some quotes from other posts and put up some more controversial statements to make things more interesting.
To say that Americans are egocentric because they tend to care more about their own issues feels a tad harsh. It is true that Americans seem to glaze over the events of other countries but that's more human nature than American nature. Besides, there is hardly any benefit to everyone being sad about a random disaster in another country when they cannot connect to the event in any way. And America does help with various disasters around the world, like the tsunami, which is hardly egocentric.
First off I guess you could say it scared people. People know that it's possible that they'll die to an accident, falling down a staircase, dropping a toaster in their bathtub or drown in a tsunami, but what they don't necessarily expect is to one day be killed, and in most mindsets I suppose that's more significant.
It's one of the larger killings of people to my knowledge that happened in the US specifically, and happened to landmarks that are pretty significant to the United States, and resulted in some pretty drastic measures, whether you agree with them or not.
There's more to add and maybe some of the things that I said aren't entirely accurate but this is mostly a preface to my next topic of interest being,
The majority of this thread has "deteriorated" or "developed" (depending on your opinion) into, remembering 9/11, is it good or bad.
There seems to be an issue in most cases where, in the world, people care about things at vastly different levels. This results in a variety of strange things, like people being offended by things, one example being "language." An example would be, you can't necessarily blame someone for using the word "rape," casually, but you also can't blame someone who was raped to be offended by it.
To transition this point over to this specific subject, I think that personally you cannot blame the people who care about 9/11 significantly, but you also cannot blame the people who don't care all that much and in some cases even if they make insensitive jokes, you can't really blame them, it's difficult for different people to understand each other and tip toe around things.
People don't necessarily mourn 9/11 as more important than the deaths of other people, it's just that it's very difficult to connect to the tsunami or terrorist attacks in other places, and the environments are different, and you cannot necessarily blame people for that. You can't expect people to be capable of mourning every death, and maybe it's admirable for those who can, but it's rather unrealistic.
As for the problems that lay behind 9/11, such as the spending money on the dead rather than living, or the use of it as an excuse to go to war. It may not be the most useful expenditure for humanity to spend dollars on the dead, but I personally cannot criticize it too harshly (necessarily!). Money is used in many ways and often times they're not the most useful ways, and maybe there are better uses of it, but people will be people.
In terms of an excuse to go to war, I don't really know the specific information about this, but it's unlikely at the very least that the government caused it to go to war (unless you believe the various conspiracy theories that I know nothing about), so while that may be bad, that shouldn't impact on if it's good to remember 9/11 or not.
This post seems a bit too, things can be too bad but that's just how the way they are...
So I think I'll put in some quotes from other posts and put up some more controversial statements to make things more interesting.
K-1 wrote...
Americans should not be egocentric and think that the only things that matter are those that happen in their own country. I say this as an American.To say that Americans are egocentric because they tend to care more about their own issues feels a tad harsh. It is true that Americans seem to glaze over the events of other countries but that's more human nature than American nature. Besides, there is hardly any benefit to everyone being sad about a random disaster in another country when they cannot connect to the event in any way. And America does help with various disasters around the world, like the tsunami, which is hardly egocentric.
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In my Opinion I can blame on Bush,why?because if Bush not Invading middle Eastern country for getting "THE OIL"it will never happen.Now imagine if Bush does not exist and middle eastern country live in peace,9/11 will never happen if Bush keep invading Middle eastern country besides 9/11 happen after Bush invading Middle Eastern.
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eset03 wrote...
In my Opinion I can blame on Bush,why?because if Bush not Invading middle Eastern country for getting "THE OIL"it will never happen.Now imagine if Bush does not exist and middle eastern country live in peace,9/11 will never happen if Bush keep invading Middle eastern country besides 9/11 happen after Bush invading Middle Eastern.what are you talking about Al-Qaeda has been around since 1988 and their goal is to rid the world of any one who is not a true Muslim. Without Bush there would still have been an attack on US soil and attacks in other countries.
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eset03 wrote...
In my Opinion I can blame on Bush,why?because if Bush not Invading middle Eastern country for getting "THE OIL"it will never happen.Now imagine if Bush does not exist and middle eastern country live in peace,9/11 will never happen if Bush keep invading Middle eastern country besides 9/11 happen after Bush invading Middle Eastern.America invaded in october of 2001. how could the invasion have caused 9/11 when it didn't happen until month after?!