Would a crimeless world really be all that great?

The crime is what you posted.


1. In order for there not to be any crime people have to be moral. How would hardship disappear? Is crime the only hardship we have in life?
2. For there not to be any crime you have to be "good."
3. About what? They still care about living in this world.
4. Maybe for you.
5. Says who? This isn't a fucking math equation where both sides have to be equal. "Bad" things do not have to happen in order for there to be "good" things, and not only that, but what's "good" and what is "bad" is entirely subjective, so what you say is bullshit.
6. Same answer as five. Objectively define "good guy", oh wait you can't, because that's impossible.
7. And how is that exactly?

@Rbz123:
Are you pissed?
I'm sorry...
Its just rant, you know I'm not really too serious when I post that...
Don't get that pissed okay...
Although, I was expecting your reaction...
I was wondering when someone will have your kind of reaction...
I'm trying to decide what to post, so I'm doing a little test...
Whether we have "it" or not...


Now I will do it more seriously:
I do think we need crime...
some people talk about balance and two sides of coins...

Crime is a proof of aggression every human has...
We need such thing for survival, its in our nature to have that traits (no matter how small they are on each people, no matter how dormant they are)...
Its just, some people have more than others...
Sometimes, such aggression is not channeled correctly...
Sometimes, other reason influence it...
Its what drives people to compete...
Our ancestors live in more difficult times than us, so being sturdy is important...
You'll need a good dose of aggression every now and then...
We just get to live with the traits passed on to us...
If you get rid of it, we'll be...

Actually there's more reasons why crime must exist...
But I'm too lazy I guess...
Maybe next time...

Fucking LOL! When I made that post and read it, I was like, "He's gonna say I'm pissed or something." Since you're the new old guy who doesn't know me, I might as well tell you something about me. When I make a post, curses just naturally blend into my sentences because they are awesome enhancement words. Like George Carlin once said, "Curses are like a spice in my stew." If I'm wrong about the cruse part, then all I can say is, I assure you that I am not pissed.



And I believe that is a failed analogy because I don't see the world that way.



You say we need aggression for survival, but we're not some primitive apes who know only how to smack shit with a stick. We do not "need" aggression because it is caused by things that aggravate us. That is not a life necessity. Not all crimes are because of aggression either.

If by chance you are speaking from some religious or paranormal belief, then we have nothing further to discuss.

If you apply the original question rigidly, that is to say: any activity that stands in contrast to the letters of the law ("crime") were to cease, then modern civilization as we know it would come to an immediate halt.

How so? Because the legal buildings of the civilized nations are so enormously bloated, that they partially contradict themselves and codify minute details of human behavior in so broad a way, that spending a day without violating some sort of law is virtually no longer possible (opinion of Prof. J. Duane of Regent Law). Rosenzweig's estimates (see link or spoiler) for the U.S. state that "the Congressional Research Service cannot even count the current number of federal crimes.", because the legal building is so incredibly bloated, muddled and cross-referential that no one can keep track of the enormous count of criminalized activities.

Crime can't be defined objectively either, so sure, no one does anything that anybody thinks is a crime.

Why is that bad?

If we were looking through a biblical sense, that means Eve never ate from the tree of knowledge. It also means that men would never experience freedom of will. Humans would be mindless drones only confirming to the will of a deity. Hooray for Satan!

Guys, how about this?

One day, no one is murdered. People still die in accidents, but no one is murdered. The next day, it's the same - no murders. And that continues. People still lie and cheat, but no one is purposely killed by another human being.

What could possibly be bad about that?

As long as it just happens to work out this way, virtually on its own, nothing's wrong with that.

While a world free of crime would be fantastic, it is, however, an impossibility. Society, as a whole lives in a balance. You can't have light without darkness, nor good without evil. If it were as simple as having only one, then our lives would have no meaning.

Its this concept of balance that gives us a reason to live. Whether it be overcoming strife to obtain a dream, or protecting a loved one from evil. It's one of the things that give us, as humans, the potential to become great.

I don't think a crimeless world would be all that great, but it's just my personnal pessimistic opinion. I'm just like the pessimist princess, but not as clever as her.

There's is one thing for sure :
As long as humans are different, there will be jealousy between them, jealousy leads to envy and hatred, and this leads to some sorts of crime. It's just in the human nature, it's nothing we can go against.

This makes no sense to me. There is no true balance to the way the world works. That's why some areas have a lot of crime while others have a very small amount of crime.

I say a bad thing. I mean think of how dull the world would be. To me a prettyu boring place i need confict to grow and especiqally morale dileemas. But that's me and i like chaos.

There's plenty of conflict and moral dilemmas in the world without crime. For example, if your best friend's ex-girlfriend wants to go out with you, what do you do? That's a moral dilemma, and it can cause conflict.

I don't understand why people think that murder and rape and theft must exist for people to think about things.

Dude no moral dilemma for me she wants to date if i like her yes i don't then no that simple. Course classic convetions of social rules don't really matter to me. Hell i'd welcome my best friend dating my sister not that it would happen but still would welcome it. But in all honesty imagine a world where crime didn't exist it would just be dull. No random fights no no drugs not many fun thing (not that i use drugs abd expirience). Also their are so many concepts of crimes whos would we go by ones wher a woman getting raped is the crime not the rape Or ones where beer alchohol is banned, ones where porn and jacking off is wrong. So i'm sorry but nah not good just dull and boring.

Well I brought up the define crime in my first post but the dull and boring I'm sorry is just for sociopaths. I mean you actually believe a world that’s dull but no murder and other crimes is worse than our fucked up world with senseless murders and sociopaths. If you actually believe that I am sorry but get a shrink because your morals are totally fucked up.

If you think about it, its impossible.

People want what they can't have. Crimes occur.
Envy, Greed, Pride, Lust, Gluttony, Wrath, Sloth.
The core and origins of crime.

People are jealous.
People want things.
People are selfish.
People want sex.
People need food.
People rage.
People are lazy.

Its human nature. We are the crime. I am 100% sure that everyone in the world has done a crime before in there life.

The thought of a crime less world is complete bogus to me. Thats a fairy tale in a fairy tale.

I had some fucked up shit happen in my life and i'm the better for it. But not everybody can recover from having their will broken, Ridiculed mocked and so forth just for being autiostic and sadly it was almost always those in [power my teachers and others like them never really kids. So i do know suffering try looking up confinement in schools and other sucvh things it's insane what they can do to kids that they don't even allow in jail. Locked up in a room smelling of urine caus they won;t let kids out top even go to the bathroom or concrete floors with urine stains. Yeah try going through that on a regular basis sometimes 3 or 4 timesa day fopr about 1-2 years oh and being able to go home but then knowing you'll be going back called torure my friend i lived it and yes i still say crime has reason to exist even the really f'd up ones. Before that i was an almost complete innocent was 12-13 at the time didn't ecven know shit like that could hapen let alone did. So yeah i think that can help ya why i supporty suffering. To an extent at least also look at americans (i am one) they complain about such small things and yet remain kids forever. Now those in poor countries grow up and mature at decent rates if not to fast BECAUSE they suffer from true suffering not just mild shit.

You say your "better" for it and you want others to suffer in some hope they'll learn something like you? If you were a dictator, I'd assassinate your dumbass. Just because these lessons learned are important to you personally doesn't mean the world needs crime and suffering. And no, I wouldn't think that going through all that, you'd still want others to suffer. Do you have some sort of vendetta against humans?


Cause we're spoiled by 1st world goodness. Maybe the fuckers you see remain kids, but not the americans that I see. So you need suffering to grow up? I don't even want to know your definition of being "grown up", but you don't need crime to do it.