Would a crimeless world really be all that great?
Would a crimeless world really be all that great?
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Sorrior wrote...
I had some fucked up shit happen in my life and i'm the better for it. But not everybody can recover from having their will brokenYou never really specified how your suffering made you "better". From what you said, all I can deduce is that you believe that your experience with suffering has somehow made you a better person. Maybe it has opened your eyes, but a better person? I think not.
Sorrior wrote...
To an extent at least also look at americans (i am one) they complain about such small things and yet remain kids forever. Now those in poor countries grow up and mature at decent rates if not to fast BECAUSE they suffer from true suffering not just mild shit.I don't understand how Americans remain kids forever. If you think that toughness equates with maturity, then I can see where you're coming from on this argument. However, maturity is most associated with the responsibility that one has to shoulder. Unless you're speaking of the responsibility of keeping yourself alive, which I would categorize under "Survival instincts", not "maturity".
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Catcher wrote...
Sorrior wrote...
I had some fucked up shit happen in my life and i'm the better for it. But not everybody can recover from having their will brokenYou never really specified how your suffering made you "better". From what you said, all I can deduce is that you believe that your experience with suffering has somehow made you a better person. Maybe it has opened your eyes, but a better person? I think not.
Sorrior wrote...
To an extent at least also look at americans (i am one) they complain about such small things and yet remain kids forever. Now those in poor countries grow up and mature at decent rates if not to fast BECAUSE they suffer from true suffering not just mild shit.I don't understand how Americans remain kids forever. If you think that toughness equates with maturity, then I can see where you're coming from on this argument. However, maturity is most associated with the responsibility that one has to shoulder. Unless you're speaking of the responsibility of keeping yourself alive, which I would categorize under "Survival instincts", not "maturity".
I'm more tolerant opf others opinions and difefrences. I don't even give a ratsass i somone wants to worship hitler as long as they don't push it on me. I wasn't like that beofre. Plus i can sympathise better with others. Oh and i do have a vendetta against that places employees. But not mosyt people. I judge by actions not anything else the only people i can't tolerate are bigotts or people who think they know everything aboiut the multiverse. I wasn't like that before i was pretty much like most people thinking i was always right. Hell now i don't even belive their is such a thing as "truth" it's too subjective a term taht's what i mean. Oh and if tolerating others isn't mature i don't know what is. Point is that nthing is 100% so of course their are people who truly suffer in the us hell my sister was abused by my grandfather. But that still dosn't mean that i want a crimeless world. Course that dosn't mean i wnat a crime filled one either. I think a world of balance would be nice and right now the balance is shifted more towards crime than peace so in my opinion it will switch to one of peace at some point then back to crime and so forth. But that's me. So yeah neither a crimeless world nor a lawless world work for me. Altough if you took my posts to mean that i'm sorry.
Edit: realized i should explain why i mentioned my sisters incident. I think he she should have suffered for it but that st6ill dosn't mean i'd destry evil or crime. Just the way i think. Oh and i guess to me maurity is tolerance and an abiliuty to do what you promise both rare traits that i seem to have in abundance. Oh and if you wanna say i'm not tolerant my best friend has almost completly opposite views highly christian loves bush and his dad thinks their heropes dosn't really watch anime anymore or hentai. I don't follow any of those views yet we still get along because we don;t try and force each other to share our views (well most of the time).
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A world with no crime would have a very low survival rate.
As the system is now, without bribes, cheating, stealing, and sometimes murder, the corporate machine would stop dead.
This puts billions of people out of a job--not good.
Otherwise, a world without corruption would be pretty cool.
Knocking out some serious evils, like rape, abuse, torture, and genocide would work out though.
Also: most laws are bullshit. Remove the ones that protect people from themselves, and the ones without rational basis from the list, and I'm on.
As the system is now, without bribes, cheating, stealing, and sometimes murder, the corporate machine would stop dead.
This puts billions of people out of a job--not good.
Otherwise, a world without corruption would be pretty cool.
Knocking out some serious evils, like rape, abuse, torture, and genocide would work out though.
Also: most laws are bullshit. Remove the ones that protect people from themselves, and the ones without rational basis from the list, and I'm on.
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Aud1o Blood wrote...
A world with no crime would have a very low survival rate.As the system is now, without bribes, cheating, stealing, and sometimes murder, the corporate machine would stop dead.
This puts billions of people out of a job--not good.
Otherwise, a world without corruption would be pretty cool.
Knocking out some serious evils, like rape, abuse, torture, and genocide would work out though.
Also: most laws are bullshit. Remove the ones that protect people from themselves, and the ones without rational basis from the list, and I'm on.
Lol i agree that all tese laws to protect others i/e people from themselves is BS. Why i would make a law called the fuck you law basically as long as your not gonna get anyone else hospitalized do as you fricken will. Why i would call the the fuck you law is simple The sheer humor of hearing judges saying fuck you and also so you can just reply Fuck you. So much fun and rights for all. Butb sadly that happening is highly unlikely people just want to force their rules on others to feel well whos knows why i don't.
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theres no doubt that a crimeless word would be best. imagine being able to walk enywhere and everywhere, adn not have to worry about getting raped or killed. thats an awesome thought.
but its not just about a crimeless world for you, or me, or anyone and everyone else, btu for the children as well. a true crimeless world is a place where a child can walk around an entire city and be safe. that would be a crimeless world.
but worst case scenario, should a crime happen in this crimeless world, should we achieve it, then what would we do? we would be used to no crime, so we might not know how to deal with it. crime is, as rbz said, an addiction for some. if we can break the habit, then we can make steps towards a crimeless world
or get a death note...and give it to some guy in japan...
but its not just about a crimeless world for you, or me, or anyone and everyone else, btu for the children as well. a true crimeless world is a place where a child can walk around an entire city and be safe. that would be a crimeless world.
but worst case scenario, should a crime happen in this crimeless world, should we achieve it, then what would we do? we would be used to no crime, so we might not know how to deal with it. crime is, as rbz said, an addiction for some. if we can break the habit, then we can make steps towards a crimeless world
or get a death note...and give it to some guy in japan...
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Aud1o Blood wrote...
This puts billions of people out of a job--not good.How many billions you talking about here? There's only approximately 6.7 billion people on Earth.
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Totally great but... it's far beyond our reach... without the bad guys... there exist no good guys... even if this world exist... i doubt it'll be creepy ==...
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I do not see a world without crime as even a remote possibility. I only see two ways of eliminating all crime. The first being that you take away people's capacity for free will, that way we would not be capable of acting on our own and thus unable to go against society's wishes. The second way is much simpler, just make everything legal.
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Blurr wrote...
Aud1o Blood wrote...
This puts billions of people out of a job--not good.How many billions you talking about here? There's only approximately 6.7 billion people on Earth.
Mental typo there, I meant a couple hundred million.
Lawyers, footmen, enforcers, dealers, chemists, etc. all need to make a living too.
Edit: Thought I was on about the criminally employed. Scratch that, unethical business is huge, and without "the good guys" looking the other way, most of the industrialized world will collapse.
http://knowmore.org/wiki/index.php?title=The_Coca-Cola_Company
http://knowmore.org/wiki/index.php?title=Image:AT%26T_Inc.-logo.png#Political_Influence
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Its only possible to have a crimeless world if you get rid of laws, otherwise it is impossible other than pulling a NGE and turning the world into orange juice.
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kingandhishorse wrote...
Without Evil there is no good.A world without crime would not be based along the lines of things as subjective as "goodness" and "evil." I also don't think a world without crime is possible until all mankind can agree on what constitutes a crime and what doesn't, etc. This will likely never happen, though it'd be nice (I'd eliminate theism as a starting point).
I'm also getting tired of the "there can be no A without B" argument.
Sprite wrote...
Its only possible to have a crimeless world if you get rid of laws, otherwise it is impossible other than pulling a NGE and turning the world into orange juice.LOL - pulling an NGE.
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If fapping and watch loli considered as crime, i' ll not live in the earth anymore. However, if there's no evil, life will be boring. Evil ones make the good people feel that he/she is still alive.
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We need 'necessary' evil. Violence.
Every bunk you listed that needs to be taken out is sadly needed in the idea of a world without violence.
Why? Because humans, by nature, would never accept a peace such as that. There are some who could do without violence...
But that's rather small isn't it?
A crimeless world is a rather boring one, sadly enough.
After all, "a happy story is a boring story."
Every bunk you listed that needs to be taken out is sadly needed in the idea of a world without violence.
Why? Because humans, by nature, would never accept a peace such as that. There are some who could do without violence...
But that's rather small isn't it?
A crimeless world is a rather boring one, sadly enough.
After all, "a happy story is a boring story."
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Im a Peaceful Guy Sooo Probably No
why In the Beginning of this World
created Good nd Evil
Without Evil the World would be Unbalance
it maybe Peaceful but our World is Unbalance
without Good our World would be in Chaos
Fighting Randomly Moving without Judgment
if our World would be good without Evil
God wouldn't let it Exist to us
Sin would never be Exist
the 10 Commandments would useless since
there's no Evil,Rules would Pointless since there's no Evil would Break those kinds of Rules......
why In the Beginning of this World
created Good nd Evil
Without Evil the World would be Unbalance
it maybe Peaceful but our World is Unbalance
without Good our World would be in Chaos
Fighting Randomly Moving without Judgment
if our World would be good without Evil
God wouldn't let it Exist to us
Sin would never be Exist
the 10 Commandments would useless since
there's no Evil,Rules would Pointless since there's no Evil would Break those kinds of Rules......
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EmiyaKiritsugu wrote...
We need 'necessary' evil. Violence.Every bunk you listed that needs to be taken out is sadly needed in the idea of a world without violence.
Why? Because humans, by nature, would never accept a peace such as that. There are some who could do without violence...
But that's rather small isn't it?
A crimeless world is a rather boring one, sadly enough.
After all, "a happy story is a boring story."
There are strong genetic components associated with most aspects of human nature. Similarly, you can use drugs to change personality. Who's to say human nature will never accept peace? It's not impossible.
A world without crime doesn't have to be a "happy" and "boring" one... what is that you do when you're bored anyway?