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Have an account, played only once, using Six Samurais/Ritual Decks

Apparently my original lizards deck isn't so original, it's called disaster dragons. Bleh, at least I designed it myself! :3

Richard Clarke designed Disaster Dragons buddy boi.

The thing why I don't play any of the mainstream decks... they all use the same ones.. and same style and the same cards. Most of the people I see that plays the TCG (there's a lot) wanna use the decks that win a recent regional or national? Is there a national? Oh well. Yeah, that's why I don't like using the "good cards," and that's why I only use whatever strategy with random cards to make my own. Such as the Calculator deck and Exodia... but I don't really think those were original either... I think since I made that by myself...

Say hello to my 6 year old deck. I pretty much use the same idealism here, "I want to win/lose with my own strategies". And in the process, I pretty much stop caring for the new cards even though they're awesome.

1 more exam week to go.

I can't believe I missed this section. I was trying to find this thread again. Currently having a lot of fun. Synchros are awesome shit man. Although I still suck at using them. I'll be using your decks Hajo, seeing as your good with this. My Sync Deck still sucks.

While I understand where you're coming, thats how the metagame in yugioh works now. It's not that everyone is using decks that win regionals n whatnot, it's just thats how the metagame is "supposed to be played" now with what's out there in the game. The TCG recieves updates to the game just like some fighting games recieves updated versions (Guilty Gear, BlazBlue, KOF and SF all come to mind). It's to give the game more balance where it's needed.

And they're not "mainstream decks", they're metadecks. Decks that are rated in a tierlist from a competitive standpoint, just like fighting games have tierlist to rate each character from a competitive standpoint, samething. Whether you choose to play a meta or anti-meta is completely up to the player. Whether you're just playing for fun or competitively.

But holding yourself back from using something thats really good in the game is not a smart idea, just because you dont like it. Thats like saying you choose not to use Ryu's short SRK in SSF4 as an anti-air just because you hate seeing people spam it or for any other reason. Even though the move is a great anti-air. But like I said, doing so is your decision.

I play yugioh casually, but I also know how the games works from a competitive standpoint as well because I have friends that play this competitively. I know what's good and what isnt. And I basically treat yugioh as a fighting game on paper.

I choose to play BOTH meta and anti-meta (Gravekeepers are anti-meta by the way and they are rated as a tier 1 deck). The only decks I've put together myself without any help that I use myself are my spellcaster deck and blackwings. Although I'm fairly certain there are plenty of others that might use the style of those two decks I use as well.

There isnt any real originality in this TCG. It's the same in fighting games. With the exception to a few YGO vets who created certain decks. You are not the first one to use an Exodia deck, or the calculator card. Just sayin'.

Everyone has their own definition of "casual", so let's just stop it there.

and speaking of originality, if a guy made a deck by himself and for himself, that's still original to the person himself.

I wasnt bombing anything, just wanted to give my point on the matter is all.

Kaimax gets it. Richard Clarke or whoever, I thought lizards are cool, I made a deck around 'em, it happened to be quite similar. That is all.

My point was that Richard is the the creator of that deck's theme. People pick up on things and can use them however they wish, whether that person is the true creator or not.

Yes, I get what you're saying. And yeah, I'm not the first one to use it... I know that much.

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I don't do research or keep up with the yugioh fanatics like knowing what new cards are going to come out and on what packs, who won regionals, what decks are the current strongest, the ban list, who invented [insert deck], what deck names are and etc...

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A good example: I don't even know what an anti-meta deck is and I keep hearing that from the people in my local area. The way for me to know what cards are out or are good is if I see them IRL since I don't even keep up and I only play once in a while. That or if I play the DS version of the game and look at all of the cards and read the effects of them, but I stopped 2 years ago. If they interest me... I think of a way to build something around it with what I know.

I never said I did any of that myself, although I do research cards and decks when I think about wanting to use a new deck. I dont keep up with the forbidden list myself, my friends do and if I need to know something then I'd just ask them about whatever it is I want to know about.

And again, choosing to use a certain card(s) is up to the player. You dont have to use an extra deck or other certain cards to play. But alot of other TCG players would tell you otherwise if you want to be good in the metagame. That's why I added a few decks to the OP that are completely play-ready for other people to pick up if they dont have a deck to use or not. Or just to get themselves started.

Also, my bad if you dont know the terms for some things. I am just one of those who tend to want to know what I can about the things that interests me.

I'm not bombing you by the way bro lol. Just that your post caught my eye and I wanted to give my view on some things.

Honestly the term "true creator" irks me so much.

The problem here is somehow you're thinking that a certain person who made a similar deck somehow gets inspiration/information from another people. Everyone is still the "true creator" of his or her own deck.

What if someone across the world who never followed any tournaments nor deck recipes, made the same deck himself/herself without any sources? would you still be able to say that "he's not the "true creator". This just means both of the "True Creator" and the other "True Creator" have the same line of thought.


We're not bombing you, we're just having a discussion about "originality"

I'd say it doesn't matter much. What if some guy decided not to show his theme of the deck and stuff and later this guy shows the aforementioned theme. Kaimax explained it better than me. :D


Anyway to those who wanted the OP (which I didn't know where from) is here:

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Disaster_Dragon

http://www.konami.com/yugioh/blog/?p=1721

You clearly dont seem to understand what I was getting at, at all. I'm stating that this one particular person is the originator of this one particular deck theme. It is known throughout the YGO community who created this one particular deck theme. It is even known at Konami for this TCG who created this one particular deck theme.

He built this one particular deck theme, and it became very popular, so many other players are using it as well, of course. But he is still the one who created it.

How can someone who doesnt do anything at all in anyway to be known for anything be an original without having anything to show for it? Any random unknown person can make something that has already been done, but that will not make them the originator.

Everyone who has posted in this thread, does not have an original deck, including myself. Sure, you made the deck via online (lol) but that doesnt make it original. You can change or add different cards to the decks for personal preference, but it is still not original.

Many people run the same decks, deck themes, play the same character(s) in a game, uses the same gun(s), etc etc. But everyone will not always play the exact same way or style of play. This is common.

Oh somehow I'm getting your point. But I don't know what to say :(

Calm down guys... [size=2]I shouldn't have mentioned it in the first place.[/h]

@hajo, you're clearly mistaking what original means and You're putting too much value on the term "original" with the whole game, where as I'm clearly stating that "original" is something that someone made by them self.

No matter how similar someone made it, it's still their one and only original deck, no one in the world can recreate it without actually copying it.

Themes are a different matter, which are clearly different from a player's "originality".

Let's say, we have 2 different persons in closed rooms, these 2 persons doesn't know many decks and never followed any news about the game, basically their isolated fans of the game. Then we order them to make a deck with Exodia as it's theme. No matter how they make their deck, they must include exodia in it. All cards and information about card effects and combos are provided.
The result is, both of them made 2 different decks.
Question is
"Which one is original?"

Don't you have some pride in your own "creation". When was the last time you made your deck form scratch, without any sources.

Another analogy:
Was Frankenstein's monster not original just because he used other people's baody parts to create his ultimate "original" masterpiece?

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