Defense of the Ancients 2

Hahahaha. I can think for myself thanks. It's not that I can't experiment, but its just not the way you should play if you want to be good. Well, I like to troll around sometimes and get heaven's halberd on str heroes like night stalker. You don't really see that too much. You can learn a lot from watching pros too. You might want to look at the link. It could help your game a lot.

Fun

Tab back into fakku a minute later to see a reply, lucky me.

Loki, I'm just busting your balls dude. I'm level 1 coming from LoL. I've practiced in a few inhouse games. And spectate a few games on the first page during Chinese hours. Watched a few purge vids but he's kind of a douche. 'Sides I went on r/dota on reddit and read on all the guides on the sidebar, including the one you linked. I take great effort to research anything I get myself into. I only do not play because all my friends still play LoL and have no one to queue up with. Otherwise I'd have a good 500 hours invested. Tried AP, but everyone just builds shadow blade Drow on some pub account while my Witch Doctor rushes Scepter with no boots and no one buys dust or sentries except me, so they end up repeatedly getting ganked and letting her stealth out of fights when low. I thought I'd switch to random draft and single draft but I still need to micro practice in case I get Lone Druid or something. Anyway ball busting aside, I personally like medallion and deso combo; just my niche in DotA so far.

Sorry to put you down, bro...

But you're the one who doesn't understand DotA.

The pros you look up to? Used to be lowly scrubs AKA "terrible dota players".

The builds you're saying that are standard? Born from experimenting. Born from probably a hundred other experiments that resulted in a win/loss for the whole team.

The reason there are even "standard builds", as you say so, in DotA, is because everyone is keeping on experimenting with different builds, with different strategies.

FACT: Every pro player in DotA experiments with all kinds of builds. Builds that you may think is stupid. Every "standard build" that is out right now was considered, at some point, stupid and inefficient.

They're considered stupid and inefficient until one of the pros shows it off and say "hey guys, this is a pretty good build".

Which by then, people, the ones who look up to the pros, suddenly start to call it a "standard build" just because a pro managed to make it work.

TL;DR Everyone has their own ways to build a Hero. Just because there's a guide that tells you "this is the most standard way to build your hero", doesn't mean it's the only efficient way.

Like Badguy said, you awfully sound a lot like a LoL player, with the whole "I'm good at playing DotA because I follow a build that was built by pros".

There are few-to-none limitations as to what kind of builds you can create on a hero.

For BH off lane, you should have WW @lvl 1 to help you survive, even if it's against a duo lane. At level 2, I mostly get jinada, unless I can't get close enough to CS at all, then I would get Shuriken and keep it at level 1 for last hitting. I usually leave my shuriken at level 2 because the damage gains from leveling it to 3 and 4 are not worth the extra mana, and extra levels into Jinada gives you a much easier time in lane harassing and last hitting with the extra damage/faster CD.

Starting items, the recommend stout shield + branches + regen is decent, but if you see their line up and know you're against a tri lane, you might as well skip the stout shield and go for clarity+tangos. Keep an eye out on supports to see if they have sentries and where they place them. If the support pulls, try to go contest the neutrals and get some last hits there, since the carry will be in the lane farming. You might even be able to force the support to drop a sentry. If you're getting zoned out of CS, just tango the trees and invis into a hiding spot to leech as much exp as possible. Once you hit level 6, you can rotate to gank another lane with your track.

BF on BH pretty much died off, no one plays him as a carry anymore. He is now a roamer/ganker that helps the team by getting extra gold with track. I always get Vlad if my team has a melee hard carry, as well as drums if no one else on the team is getting it. If I don't get Vlad, I usually go for a medallion and tranquil boots for the regen. Medallion is great even if you can't get the backstab damage, plus it helps you early game rosh. Always go for BKB late game as well.

You're an utility hero, so you should be getting these types of items instead of carry items. Even desolator is a rare item at high level play because you won't have many opportunity to just run up to a support and backstab him for 3/4 of his hp. Plus, Deso only gives you raw damage and no stats whatsoever, and BH needs HP/MP.

Had to write this long wall of text, my favorite offlane hero :)

Why is Rubick so perfect? 10/10 would claim as waifu.

Also support role is best role.

The only supports I like to play at this moment are Windrunner and Shadow Demon.

Dat Disruption.

No love for vengeful DDD:

Also how come I never seen a Venge + CK lane? I think that lane would be terrifying to go against. Swap+stun+rift+stun+stun. Am I missing something?

no harass range, mana hungry. Sounds decent though.

It would work, but its alot more dangerous for the Venge due to the nature of swap and her short range. Wisp or AA would be more effective, Wisp because relocate makes CK even more of a ganking monster than he already is and AA because his range and Cold Feet matches up perfectly with Rift and Bolt.

Another underused combo is DS+Riki. Seriously, Blink+Smoke is a killer combo already. But pair Riki with DS, then no one can escape from your smoke.

When a hero is about to escape from smoke, vacuum them right back in, and let Riki get FAAAAAAT!!

CK and Wisp combo is also deadly too. And I'd say its kinda better than CK-Venge combo.

Sigh seeing few post above about Pro build makes me sad. Played a game (CM) laning with Siren. Siren got tons of money but went for Radiance. When I asked why, he want to follow DK Burning build. Sigh it could have better if he bought Diffusal + Vitality Booster first, recalling enemy got Centaur + Invoker.

Playing Support is fun at start, but in the end what awaits you is suffering. *lost 2 games and Winrate is below 50*

Playing carry or mid doesn't do much better.

Only advice of mine is to play a hero at which you are good. Also, dying is the worst.

EDIT:

Doom is best hero in the game. Gold for the gold throne.

No it's totally not my SF mid who won us the game

Of course you didn't, you are a terrible player and I hate playing with you.

In other news, everyone: please support my new book! http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=129152760

worst hero to fight against in a team fight.

Okay, I have to ask but.... HOW DO YOU MAKE A GUIDE!? I've been meaning to create a guide for Nature's Prophet, but I can't find the pictures and whatnot that you guys use! D:

I made my guide using the in-game Builds menu.

To get to it:
1) Main menu of Dota 2
2) Learn tab (at the top, near right)
3) Builds subtab (close to the top, near left)
4) "Create New Hero Build" button

Oh man I'll make a how to build Skeleton king.

1. Start 6 Iron Branch
2. Farm up 5.7k buy boots and a quelling blade
3. Anything else is luxury

>teammates pick 4 carries
>picks rubick
>buys and upgrades courier, wards the map every 6 minutes, gives lane partner all the last hits
>double/triple pulls the creeps on radiant bot, calls runes, roams the map when possible
>saves everyone's ungrateful ass using stolen pudge hook
>4 carries ends up stealing each other's farm, shit item progression
>team gets owned in teamfights because, well, 4 carries

>"ggwp noob rubick"
>"fvking noob support no items"
>"lrn 2 play pls"

>wat

Those graphs definitely cannot be correct since they fail the vertical line test at so many points!

It's okay, I'm sure they were joking.