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skoodlez13 wrote...
info:spectre(spirit of vengeance) can take the whole team down if played properly w/ his teammateswhat is ur build for spec?
I usually go
Bracer (Dump later)
Poor Man's Shield (Dump later)
Phase or Treads (I went Phase before 6.64, still deciding now)
Vlads
Yasha -> Sange or Manta
Diffusal if I chose Manta
Manta if I chose Sange
Heart of Tarrasque (usually when you get this far its over)
Radiance
Boot of Travel (if its a marathon)
Butterfly -> Dump Sange and Yasha or Diffusal
Having a good lane mate really helps your farming, since how you kill/farm between level 7-12 will make or break your game.
If you let Spectre get ahead, farming alone = BAD BAD idea. Especially if you lack hp and escape mechanisms.
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thanks for the info guys gonna work a lot more on NS. But forget DS because I think he is one of the few easily killed out there seeing he can only help in offense but sucks if you're not strong enough
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do you still get heart despite its recent nerf?
DS=dwarven sniper correct?
well its no secret DS's weakness is his low hp which is why getting him strength power treads wouldn't be so bad. Then just farm up to butterfly then here pick either deso or satanic. I prefer deso because of the big +damage(plus it also looks cool :) ) but satanic helps with his low hp and also gives him life steal which helps his survival a bit.
You can also go for lothars but for me, whenever i play against a sniper usually i expect him to get lothars so i bring along dust, thats enough to screw lothars up.
Last tip, when fighting always stay on higher ground, his attack range is awesome, abuse it. If there is an invi hero in the opponent, it might be a good idea to stick to your allies as invi heroes tend to eat the little sniper really easily
mwong04 wrote...
thanks for the info guys gonna work a lot more on NS. But forget DS because I think he is one of the few easily killed out there seeing he can only help in offense but sucks if you're not strong enoughDS=dwarven sniper correct?
well its no secret DS's weakness is his low hp which is why getting him strength power treads wouldn't be so bad. Then just farm up to butterfly then here pick either deso or satanic. I prefer deso because of the big +damage(plus it also looks cool :) ) but satanic helps with his low hp and also gives him life steal which helps his survival a bit.
You can also go for lothars but for me, whenever i play against a sniper usually i expect him to get lothars so i bring along dust, thats enough to screw lothars up.
Last tip, when fighting always stay on higher ground, his attack range is awesome, abuse it. If there is an invi hero in the opponent, it might be a good idea to stick to your allies as invi heroes tend to eat the little sniper really easily
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eternalslumber1234 wrote...
do you still get heart despite its recent nerf?Yes, I get it for the extra 800-ish hp it provides, images + 20% dispersion + 3k hp makes you really annoying to kill.
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Bentoss wrote...
eternalslumber1234 wrote...
do you still get heart despite its recent nerf?Yes, I get it for the extra 800-ish hp it provides, images + 20% dispersion + 3k hp makes you really annoying to kill.
ya but in games these days, i rarely haven't ever made a heart since the nerf. It really hurts when the hp regen became a non-combat really what turned me off. This might become my very last item to ever get. after divine ^_^
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eternalslumber1234 wrote...
Bentoss wrote...
eternalslumber1234 wrote...
do you still get heart despite its recent nerf?Yes, I get it for the extra 800-ish hp it provides, images + 20% dispersion + 3k hp makes you really annoying to kill.
ya but in games these days, i rarely haven't ever made a heart since the nerf. It really hurts when the hp regen became a non-combat really what turned me off. This might become my very last item to ever get. after divine ^_^
imagine this...
You and your allies had a MAJOR clash against the enemy. everybody died, cept YOU and another enemy. you know that you can't win against the enemy coz of your red HP. the enemy is ALSO in the red, but decides to gamble it since he saw you running... after about, what, a ten seconds of running, you should not be surprised if he suddenly turns tail and runs for his life :)
why?: RIDICULOUS REGENERATION. Just make sure you don't let the enemy hero touch you for a few seconds.
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rober2 wrote...
eternalslumber1234 wrote...
Bentoss wrote...
eternalslumber1234 wrote...
do you still get heart despite its recent nerf?Yes, I get it for the extra 800-ish hp it provides, images + 20% dispersion + 3k hp makes you really annoying to kill.
ya but in games these days, i rarely haven't ever made a heart since the nerf. It really hurts when the hp regen became a non-combat really what turned me off. This might become my very last item to ever get. after divine ^_^
imagine this...
You and your allies had a MAJOR clash against the enemy. everybody died, cept YOU and another enemy. you know that you can't win against the enemy coz of your red HP. the enemy is ALSO in the red, but decides to gamble it since he saw you running... after about, what, a ten seconds of running, you should not be surprised if he suddenly turns tail and runs for his life :)
why?: RIDICULOUS REGENERATION. Just make sure you don't let the enemy hero touch you for a few seconds.
problem is that you need to run and run for a long period of time even with the 2% hp regen it'll take awhile though
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DS is the most killable as he has no escape mechanism and denying/last hitting with him is alot harder due to his attack projectile animation(puff cloud)
Now i aim for bloodstone rather than heart
Now i aim for bloodstone rather than heart
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Argentine wrote...
DS is the most killable as he has no escape mechanism and denying/last hitting with him is alot harder due to his attack projectile animation(puff cloud)Now i aim for bloodstone rather than heart
deso fixes that :P
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usually deso doesnt really solves the survivability and lane staying power.Its most effective once you got decent damage and attack speed.
Lothar doesnt really solves the problem,but at least there is an option of escape mechanism.
In the past some DS users use Hotd with centaur neutral trick.
Lothar doesnt really solves the problem,but at least there is an option of escape mechanism.
In the past some DS users use Hotd with centaur neutral trick.
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Argentine wrote...
usually deso doesnt really solves the survivability and lane staying power.Its most effective once you got decent damage and attack speed.Lothar doesnt really solves the problem,but at least there is an option of escape mechanism.
In the past some DS users use Hotd with centaur neutral trick.
the best way to improve his survivability is improving the player's skill. The skill to know when one is about to gank is very useful for sniper, also learning blind spots so he can sniper enemies from a distance is also useful.
edit:deso solves last hitting and his crappy attack animation not survivability. Some people i know get SnY for him.
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even if you have the most 1337 map sense,he is still fragile and the fact you are a carry hero,its like a flashing red dot for the enemy team to shut you down by out last hitting you early game and ganking you when ever possible.Its not possible to not die as sniper
SnY makes no sense for him.Unless its a 3v3, i say its money wasted for abit of everything plus a maim orb effect.There are better orb effects than that.
SnY makes no sense for him.Unless its a 3v3, i say its money wasted for abit of everything plus a maim orb effect.There are better orb effects than that.
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xxxholic18 wrote...
Who's the topic hero?don't think there's a topic hero... more like a topic Item. DC, Hotd... er... what are these? >_< I'm no good with acros >_<
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rober2 wrote...
xxxholic18 wrote...
Who's the topic hero?don't think there's a topic hero... more like a topic Item. DC, Hotd... er... what are these? >_< I'm no good with acros >_<
Helm of the dominator, AS = Assualt cuirass
also that is DS, Dwarven sniper :3
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hotd = helm of the Dominator.The item where you buy helm of iron will and mask of death
dont know bout DC though.Cant quite figure it out
dont know bout DC though.Cant quite figure it out