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so pipe's barrier will block it too?

yes but it only blocks 400 magic damage right?

Yes... more than enough for me~

ditto.

Oh! BTW, Does Blademail's return damage decrease with Defiance?

anything that reduces magic damage reduces return damage from blademail... so a magina with lvl 4 spell sheild and hood of defiance will just laugh at you as you activate blade mail and take his hits

Speaking of Magina le Defiance, I tried a stupid idea once. I bought about 4 Defiances just to see if i'd still take damage from Doom XD. You could guess what happened.

well....at least you get +hp regen

let's see 8 x 4 = 24 hp regen per sec...

doom damage is 100 at lvl 3 IIRC

100 - 24 = 68 - 70% of it from magic resistance = 42.something...

yep that much still hurts...

I played a game yesterday with my blockmates

had a 5v5, random Ogre Magi, apparently Agha isn't good for him anymore, i found out almost too late, so i switched to Euls and Bloodstone and won the game. Bloodlust is awesome :D

How much can he bloodlust in one multicast BTW... I herd it was 5 units but that was not a reliable source..

don't know but at a 60% 2x multicast i'm almost assured of getting an AoE Blood Lust too bad it doesn't stack with Rabid for Sylla. Was playing with a friend who was playing sylla

Ogre magi now in my opinion is easier to get 2x or 3x multi cast but any higher than that is pure luck with fireblast(correct spell?).Even with scepter its not really worth it.Its best to go hybrid DPS/tank with your bloodlust skill.

i still go support with him, Bloodstone, Euls, Guinsoo, Shiva and Orchid

i will never run out of mana!!!! never!!!

Agha is no good anymore for Ogre? why?

i'm not sure, they just told me its no good anymore

so i can conclude that it either, does nothing or does almost nothing(ie:increases chance by 1%) stuff like that

it doesnt upgrade his ulti anymore?I am looking at playdota's item page and ogre magi's name is not listed.

In any case the reworked multi cast was more of a nerf cause multi cast x2 comes out more unlike in the past where multi cast may not appear,but by chance you could get a 4x or 5 x multi cast.

is that with or without agha? All i know is that my friends say that his ulti was too imba before so they nerfed it into this. Frankly i don't see how this is a nerf, i need the data of multicast chances of old ulti vs new ulti

To me it his ulti was purely situational and luck.Some users use it,they can get up to 4x multi cast.I use it in 3 different games and only 3x multicast came up.Its not so much a nerf,since 2x comes out more but above that is a miracle

NEW
1 lvl 25% chance to cast twice
2 lvl 40% chance to cast twice, 20% chance to cast three times
3 lvl 50% chance to cast twice, 25% chance to cast three times, and 12.5% chance to cast 4 times

OLD
1 lvl 20% chance to cast Fireblast 2 times or cast Bloodlust once (30% to cast Fireblast 3 times or cast Bloodlust 2 times with Scepter)
2 lvl 20% chance to cast Fireblast 3 times or cast Bloodlust 2 times (30% to cast Fireblast 4 times or cast Bloodlust 3 times with Scepter)
3 lvl 20% chance to cast Fireblast 4 times or cast Bloodlust 3 times (30% to cast Fireblast 5 times or cast Bloodlust 4 times with Scepter)

I'm pretty sure its 60% to cast 2x for the new ulti, i just played it a few days ago so its still pretty fresh

so in the old version its either you get 4x or just 1 and the % for 4x fireblast is very high for old ulti....hmmm ya i can see why its a nerf...thanks for the data

yeah but thats the only reason people play ogre - -;;.Ice frog is making carry heroes more popular again by nerfing gankers