Production and Sales of Rape Eroge Banned

There has never been any statistical proof the rape games acted as a catalysts for RL rape.

Not a fact. Just because you call it a fact it doesn't make it one. Advertisements don't brain-wash anyone. They seek to bring a product to attention.
Actual brain-washing relies on external (physical or psychological) pressure and chemical stimulants. Repetition alone doesn't make for brain-washing at all.


Not a fact. Any basic handbook of psychology and media theory since the 70s will gladly inform you on the issue. The injection theory is dead and buried.


Has been done, you lose. Porno has no negative influence at all.
Davies, Kimberley A. (1997): Voluntary exposure to pornography and men's attitudes toward feminism and rape. In: Journal of Sex Research, 03/22/97

Be informed before you feign knowledge of "facts".



I find rape and loli disgusting, even if it's virtual. I don't think it should be banned though, because I dread censorship and totalitarianism more than anything else.
The saddest thing, as usual in these cases, is that a small, but vocal group of extremist idiots fucks it up for others - and that includes other feminists, (the McElroy/Badinter/... school of feminism) many of whom are very outspokenly anti-censorship and promote the right of every person, female or male to fantasize or whatever they damn well please.

On a large scale it doesn't matter. We're inevitably sliding back into utter puritanism, and whether it's Dworkianite feminists, religious extremists or conservative politicoes hoping for a cheap media stunt promoting this development is of no consequence at all. I expect most kinds of porn to be outlawed in the western world within a decade or two.

The latest Batman Movie got in contact with the attack here in Belgium, Dendermonde when someone entered the daycare center and started to stab around, killing 2 babies and someone who works there and injuring a lot more. They said he resembled a lot like The Joker from Batman.

Actually, I disagree with you to a point Gibbous.
With the repetition, if you look at Pavlov's procedure for classical conditioning - repetition is basically the key.

You give a dog food, it drools.
You give a dog food, and ring a bell - it drools.
After hearing the bell so often it'll drool because it'll associate it with food.

You see a picture of pizza - you drool.
You hear it's jingle with the picture - you drool.
You're standing in the kitchen thinking about what to eat and hear the jingle from the TV in the other room - you think pizza, and drool.

T.V. ads do all sorts of psychological things to a person in order to sell their product. Does it make you a mindless zombie and should be ridden of? No. It's just an ad, BUT it does do things to do subconsciously so you go get their product whenever a situation occurs.

Need car insurance? Pick~up~the~phone~and~call, 1~800~SafeAuto~ Safe~Auto. I didn't quite get the whole thing <_< But I'm sure at least any American heard that tune in their head.

There's repetition, confusion, association, trust, and then the lovely sex-sells.
Commercials are louder then your TV programs, they're bright and vibrant and so forth.

As for the pornography and acting out thing (to get back on topic) I didn't mean that I thought they would act out on the porn. I don't believe porn will do that to a person, and Gibbous is right on that subject.

People do what they desire, not what they see. Just because I might want to see a huge cock shoved in some girls ass - does NOT mean I want a huge cock shoved in my ass.

That's the difference between commercials and porn influencing people.
Commercial ads try to get at you with what you want/need and try to get you to go to them.

Porns just for entertainment.

Details of the new regulations have supposedly been leaked and quite a number of people are quite unhappy, especially the big bosses of the various eroge and adult visual novel companies. Things don't look very optimistic for the fans of eroge and adult visual novels, even if they have no interest in the rape fetish.

From all the above replies, one can easily tell that the entire saga has spilled beyond the banning of rape in eroge. Freedom, culture and other aspects have been brought into the discussion. I just hope the ban will not open the floodgates to other forms of hentai and adult entertainment, which includes mature games on the PC and consoles.

Hi, if you are interested in concurrent findings in neuropsychology related to repetition and its effects on human behaviour, I recommend the "BRAIN-Study" (stupid name, but it's quite excellent) by FEHR, Thorsten (2009).
I don't want to annoy anyone with a tiresome excourse - but from today's perspective the human brain cannot be "washed" or conditioned by simple repetition alone, there's much more involved. Porn, movies or video games do not make for conditioning on their own.



I'm fairly sure it will. If you have been following concurrent legislation efforts throughout the west, you will surely be aware of the british "extreme porn" law and the german §184c, the latter of which makes any sort of "hentai" entirely and absolutely illegal to possess, view, traffick, import, export, buy or sell.

Right, I also stated it doesn't brain-wash somebody and make them into a zombie. I said it had a psychological affect.

You can take your attitude elsewhere.

Huh? What attitude?
I was just trying to keep from going off topic and thus kept it as short as possible.
Sorry if it came out wrong.

What I meant in my post is that I disagree with you if you in fact believe that commercials don't have any influence over people. There's a line between brain washed and influenced.

I'd like to raise a point against the pizza analogy.

If one is standing in one's kitchen, drawing a literal blank about what they wish to eat, and they hear a T.V. jingle they associate with pizza, it's not the subconscious influences of Pizza Hut's incredibly clever marketing scheme, but rather a suggestion of a "How about this, then?" association of pizza filling a void of "What should I eat?" in one's thought processes.

Yeah. I was just trying to address the original brainwashing claim and the behaviourist example at the same time, sorry if the suggestion came off as haughty. It wasn't meant to be.

I believe that commercials have some influence, but a limited one, mostly linked to recognition (brand/product), but not as extreme as Pavlovian conditioning. I don't really buy into ads conditioning us subconsciously.

It's fine. Sometimes it's harder to pick up tones of voice through text.

I think it's pretty stupid, it's not ok to play game games that allows you rape girls but it's ok to whipped out guns to kill people like in counterstrike, I'll refrain from using GTA as a example because of the idiocy that is Jack thompson.
You see no one is ever complaining about shooter games in general where most of them in recent has been rather bloody.

I would think that food in this case could be considered a chemical.

I agree.If they have to ban rape games then they should also ban other games that promotes violence!!

I just got more Fucktastic news. there try to ban Loli hentai in Japan
http://www.komei.or.jp/news/2009/0608/14751.html
http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/06/09/we-need-a-total-ban-politicians-seek-new-loli-ban/

ditto. and if they do that, wouldn't we be left with those "learning games" that my kid sister used to play? THAT WOULD SUCK!!! not to mention that there's a particular Rape-themed H-game that i really like (and own).

Kaimax, lolis are underage girls. It's all from Lolita, a book about a man falling in love with a 12-year-old. In Japan, lolicon is used to mean the same as paedophile and "loli" can also refer to child porn. Your confusion must stem from the fact that there are so many "demon loli" which are basically drawings on 10-year-olds but there's some text somewhere that says "LOL she's actually 10 billion years old!" Let's face it, when someone likes the look of Etna, they're attracted to her 12-year-old body, not the fact that the fluff says that she's 1500 years old.


ロリ
ロリコン　

Rori and Rorikon. Both defined in a Japanese dictionary as "Lolita complex; sexual attraction to children (especially young girls)".

no more animal ears and preggos
http://zepy.momotato.com/2009/06/12/non-human-heroines-might-possibly-be-restricted/

NOOOOO~~~~~!!!!

THE DARK AGES ARE COMING~~~!!!!

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