Rbz wrote...
Fiery_penguin_of_doom wrote...
Atheist believe there is no god, this would include Buddhists.
I don't know if you're the kind of atheist that claims god doesn't exist (has faith), but it's not believing that god doesn't exist, it's the lack of belief in a god. Atheism isn't a belief, it's a lack of it; or do you disagree?
I don't claim that a God or Gods exist or do not exist. I am of the opinion that a God does not exist but, I can not prove that a God does not exist. It's beyond the ability of man to prove either way as of now. I find the entire argument troublesome and a waste of energy.
Atheism is a belief the reason is; we can not prove that God does not exist. Any claim that we can prove such at this time is absurd. We can compose logical arguments for or against the existence of a God but, at this time it is beyond our ability to prove either side of the argument. We do not
know a God does not exist. We simply
believe that one does not exist. Regardless of how militant or firm an Atheist's conviction in the notion that a God does not exist still falls short of the glaring truth. We can't prove definitively that a God or God does not exist.
The Macquarie Encyclopedic Dictionary definition of "belief" is:
1. that which is believed; an accepted opinion.
2. conviction of the truth or reality of a thing, based upon grounds insufficient to afford positive knowledge:
That first definition is the grounds for my argument. We can't prove that a God does not exist therefore we simply have the opinion that one does not exist. The day that scientists prove definitively that a God can not or does not exist will be the Day that Atheism can be classified as a "lack thereof".
You're assembly line argument of "not collecting stamps is a hobby" does not fit the form of Atheism I am using for my argument. That argument is better suited for the "Atheism is a religion" style arguments not the "Atheism is a belief"
tl;dr We're in agreement but, took two separate paths to arrive at the same destination.
When Atheism Becomes Religion: America's New Fundamentalists
You should pick up a copy.