Fiery_penguin_of_doom Posts
HentaiElder wrote...
jmason wrote...
I like chess ^_^ Keeps my brain sharp. Rules are simple but complex at the same time :D Haha, I can relate. As a result, I'm picking Chess as well. At first I thought I'd never get it but once you memorize the different ways the pieces can move and realize how to use strategy in the game.. it's not so hard. I could, though, use some work.
Same here but, as Aze mentioned Risk and Stratego are close seconds/third.
Rbz wrote...
If you try your hand at girls often enough, your boyfriend might finally have that Ménage à trois he always dreamed of.(more like what I dream of)Don't get your hopes up RBZ. They are full of drama and not really as great as you think. It's like walking on a razors edge with pits on either side of you filled with very angry wolverines and badgers wanting to rip you to shreds and probably violate a few orifices in the process.
gibbous wrote...
JESUS WHO WANTS TO TYPE IN MORE THAN SEVEN LETTERS TO LOG IN?Me with my massive 21 characters.
Fiery- I tend to be passionate about things I care about.
Penguin- I love penguins. Seriously, ask ziggy. I could bury someone in my collection.
of Doom- during the time I registered, my friends and I had something going where we would add "of doom" to everything.
Also I played magic and I loved this card.
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gibbous wrote...
Mm? What alternative methods in particular are you referring to?A simple answer is Charity. Salvation army actually gave a co-worker of mine medication for her disease.
And where do bureaucrats in an office come into play?
Government programs come with bureaucrats, regulations, waste, etc. Governments do a piss poor service for the amount of money they spend. I would rather donate all the money that would go into a government program via taxes to a charity because the charity would do a better job at a lower cost.
gibbous wrote...
In the "already pretty dejected state" of the economy, few employers will probably touch the homeless as they can get more qualified labour at cheap rates from the pool of "normal", desperate job-seekers. So, either you undercut their wages, and effectively discourage employers from offering long-term employment to anyone, or the homeless won't find qualified employment; leaves them to unqualified labour, where they'll be competing with illegal aliens.We use prisoners as cheap labor for jobs anyways. In simplicity, we are exchanging work release prisoners for homeless people. Same simple unskilled jobs that we could probably teach a monkey to do. These prisoners do various tasks from roadside trash pick up, park restoration, etc
As for undercutting wages, these people will do the basic of basic work such as flipping burgers, pushing shopping carts. It is already minimum wage work, you can't go any lower without breaking the law.
gibbous wrote...
The homeless can be divided into two main categories:
A) The mentally ill
B) Those with a malformed biography
You forgot the third group which is expanding at a rather alarming rate. Those becoming homeless due to the economy.
gibbous wrote...
A) must be given free access to effective long-term treatment (not going to happen, as that's """socialism""" (lolamericanstalkingaboutsocialism))B) must be re-integrated into society through paid labour (quite as in the quote about Daytona Beach, FL, or your own proposal). However, care needs to be taken that participants aren't just given the runaround as sub-minimum-wage labour force, as this would negatively effect the job market at large.
I won't debate the faults of socialism and the problems bigger government brings in this thread.
Anyways there are alternative methods to help the mentally ill without having to trash our economy in an already pretty dejected state. While I feel sorry for those who have mental illness, what are we supposed to do? Throw money at them until they are barely stable, even if they are unable to be productive? I believe people can do a far greater job than some bureaucrat in an office.
The second part is missing the fact that the pay system would be similar to a temp. agency. They help get you a job based on your relative skills then take a percentage of your paycheck. Prisoners receive a reasonable pay before they have it taken from them by the state to pay for their room and board. It's not like they will be working .35c on the $. If anything they are undercutting "work release" prisoners due to the fact that you know a homeless man is less of a threat to your working staff.
razama wrote...
Well, yeah I was just using the Florida problem as an example. It's become more of a problem recently because of the economy. And YOU might find it hard to believe that people would rather remain homeless then get help, but that is the reality of things. Of course, plenty of people do put aside their pride to accept help, but just as many choose not to.
If they wish to remain homeless then it is their choice and we should move on to the ones who wants to become a productive member of society. My argument is give them the tools to help themselves and leave those who decide to not utilize these tools. You can't force an alcoholic to get well unless they want to.
We really should get some statistics of how many homeless people want to get on their feet compared to the ones that don't or unable due to mental instabilities or chronic drug addict.
Rbz wrote...
Because of these business assholes in america, we have to convince them(cities and governments) using business terms like the NLCHP does when they mention the bottom line and how it would be more efficient to not jail them.Cost efficiency should be a top concern with government programs as this is your money that they are spending. Using the homeless as cheap labor in order to integrate them into society would be a cost effective way to solve the problem. The unintended result would be prisons fighting tooth and nail as the privatized ones would lose the ability to collect some income off the backs of their work release programs.
In the end, you are looking at an investment. That homeless guy went from being a black hole for charity or government handout would become a tax paying citizen. Any intelligent politician should be able to realize that. The large problem is making the necessary change in the legal system along with a shift in societies perspective on homeless people.
Ziggy just mentioned a problem of once the people are working at McDonalds or where ever. Nobody can live on their own working at McDonalds which is true but, this is better than the status quo with just handing out money without really doing much else. Th e problem of having to "house" the homeless person could be in some form of apartment building for the ex-homeless person still working at McDonalds. While this could lead to them turning into "projects" I think the mentality of the people wanting to get back into society would prevent this from occurring.
Also I move to have this thread moved to Serious Discussion due to the nature of the arguments being made here.
razama wrote...
Well there are already programs like that, the problem is getting people to use them.I see no incentive to remain homeless so I find it difficult to accept the idea that somebody would desire to remain homeless no matter how prideful or ashamed they are.
razama wrote...
There are some places that are lacking though, like in states such as florida where they drop their homeless off at a homeless camp, under the interstate. That is ridiculous.I believe you are thinking of something else entirely but, homeless camps are spreading like this one in Reno, Nevada..
Kuroneko1/2 wrote...
Penguin, I vote for you as the next president.I happily accept your vote in 2024. Penguin '24
Edit: Lol I just remembered that the unofficial "mascot" of the Libertarian Party is the penguin. Which is so much better than that dumb porcupine. I should start a petition to make the "LP" or "Liberty Penguin" their mascot or some sort of penguin.
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PersonDude wrote...
Aud1o Blood wrote...
Just because it's not "new" doesn't mean it isn't wrong.I really doubt it's wrong as I'm sure it is agreed by the public that they want to look at clean scenery. If they really think it's wrong, they'll donate to a homeless shelter instead of throwing a shit fit. I also think these people should help out the homeless if they really feel strongly about it, but then the other law makes it impossible to do it. I would have to agree the said law is wrong.
You can't, you are not even allowed to feed or aid the homeless due to some of these laws. This is where the true outrage occurs. If people are being arrested for feeding them then society has definitely taken a step backwards.
Whitelion and I had a discussion a while back that simply giving these people food and shelter isn't enough. We as a society should find a way o reintegrate these people back into society. Turn shelters into some form of half-way house for helping these people get back on their feet.
An example would be a homeless person could go to the "shelter" and be given a simple bed, clothing, food,etc. Basically, clean them up physically so they would be suitable for jobs. Then the shelter would have the person go to work doing something that an unskilled laborer could do. An example of this would be entry level positions at a McDonalds, working in a warehouse, picking up trash on the side of the road,etc. Also these people would be required to attend a workshop or class on how to get another job,etc. The shelter could charge a small fee or percent of the paycheck to help pay for the cloths, food, among the other expenses.
With some practical tweaks to the system you could take a guy who has lost everything through some bad luck or decisions and give them another chance to become a productive member of society.
TehMikuruSlave wrote...
Gonna side with Tsurayu on this, I believe all types of hentai should be posted. But if the admins don't want to post it, then wander over to the user uploads, I'm sure there is something you could enjoy there.I can't believe I'm saying this but, I agree with TMS. User uploads could change is system slightly to add tags to the uploads so people could search for their particular fetish. Shochan a lolicon and shota community has a system that indicates what fetish the particular thread or upload consists of so people can avoid the things they don't want to see.
That or the uploaders can just put the "tag" in the title but, that may get a little messy.
Tsurayu wrote...
300e wrote...
Who are we to change a religious institution?I wouldn't call marriage a religious institution. It is nothing more or less than a civil union. Many countries, especially the United States, has been trying to get away from the whole religious underscore of marriage, by even legally defining it as a civil union. Implying that it doesn't have anything to do with any religious beliefs.
Marriage: the social institution under which a man and woman establish their decision to live as husband and wife by legal commitments, religious ceremonies, etc.
Marriage at it core is a religious institution while civil unions are not. While the two do the essentially the same job they are not interchangeable. Since marriage is a religious practice the government has no say in it. Which also sets the groundwork for the government not recognizing any marriage legally or even offering "advantages" to married couples when compared to single people.
I'm going to agree with Gibbous's statement on Page 8. In a nutshell, state sanctioned marriage should be abolished.
Smegma wrote...
Let me put this into clearer words for you guys since you don't seem to be getting it. The point of a ban would not only be to decrease the availability of child porn on the net, but also to root out as many sick-minded individuals as possible and isolate them from society. It's basically society taking natural selection into its own hands. For a better future.You are wanting to change laws so people will be arrested for not harming a real child. That's about as backwards as you can get. I feel you are ignoring the reality of such a change and the unintended consequences of such. You are dead set that lolicon and shotacon equate to child pornography despite that no actual children are involved.
I suggest you read Ashcroft v. Free Speech Coalition in which the supreme court ruled in favor of lolicon. Which is protected by the freedom of speech (for the love of God it's a drawing).
razama wrote...
Anywho, is anyone actually still worried about this?These sort of things never really go away. People who find things objectionable will devote their entire lives to making sure that said objectionable material or whatever is rendered illegal.
Waar wrote...
Alright, a few misconceptions that seem to be spreading here. As far is battery goes, ive spent a 3 day camping trip (while not charging) while listening to music for 15-16 hrs and still had enough time to end the trip with 10-15% battery power. The fact that my Iphone can store 1000+ songs beats the living piss out of the 100-200 my other phones could store. The apps are far superior to anything other phones have and you can design your phone to do ever more, it's like having a mod kit for you phone. No zig, your phone can't do everything the apps can do (I've had a razor2/blackberry/iphone recently). The price is less for his phone and his bill is like 10 dollars more than yours zig? Really doesn't sound like a big deal, plus the fact that you're probably on a family plan is why your phone bill is reduced. Everything you said that came with your phone (unlimited texts free evening/weekend, all that other jazz) I have for my iphone(perhaps my plan is different than Angelus).Honestly, when you try to trash something it really helps if you've spent some time using said item... not making baseless arguments based on your one sided personal opinions.
For me, an iphone is a waste of money. I have no use for what I estimate to be 90+% of the apps for the phone. I use the phone for calls and the occasional text message. Hell, I would be satisfied with an old "brick" Nokia or some other antique piece of junk. There are the people who absolutely need something with all the features but, for the majority of us, you don't need it. Spend less money on a more basic phone and put the money towards something productive like a Roth I.R.A. retirement account.
My argument is all about the monetary side of it. Angelus could spend his money more wisely in my opinion as he has no real need for all those bell and whistles on it. I mean for fuck sake he's a bag boy at a Grocery store.
If Angelus opened a Roth I.R.A. today with a starting balance of $100 (cost of that phone) and put in the cost of having an iPhone a year ($840) every year until the age of 65. He would end up with over $300,000. That requires the Roth to have an 8% interest rate. Even if the Roth had only a 1% interest rate it would equate to $45,000.
That is my argument against the iPhone. From my understanding he doesn't really NEED an iPhone. He could buy something cheaper and invest the money towards something else but, like I said. His money, his decision.
(in case anybody wants to know where I got my numbers here.)
Yorozuya wrote...
@ZiggyOtaku: Lol you seem to attract the weirdest guys.
I resent that comment.
Anyways, I never strike up a conversation with others in public unless I know them. I blame my anti-social tendencies. I have also never had somebody try to strike up a conversation with me (outside of "how are you" when I'm at the grocery store). I guess I'm scary in public.
Smegma wrote...
Doing nothing wrong? You're sitting at the computer all day masturbating to under-aged shit. You're definitely doing something wrong. I think it's called life.First of all, I'm not doing it all day as my girlfriend requires at lot of my attention (I love bugging & loving on her). Plus, who masturbates when you have a attractive woman living with you? Anyways, on the topic at hand. Loli's are not real. Legally, lolicons are doing nothing illegal as no real child is harmed.
Same troll wrote...
Why are you guys always trying to bring up guro? Guro isn't the issue here.You are trying to associate something that is fictional to an act in the real world. If loli = Child pornography then, guro should equate to murder. As mibuchiha stated people use the same arguments against guro. Same goes for rape, incest,etc. These things are illegal when done to a real person but, perfectly legal when nobody is harmed. At least give a valid reason other than as you find x objectionable so x should be illegal.
Same troll wrote...
I have a penis and am unable to bear children. Also, I don't socialize with anyone offline.You completely missed what I was going for but, whatever.
You should go outside more. It'd expose you to some different points of view but, then again you'd have to be exposed to the sun. I suggest a good sunscreen.
Smegma wrote...
Loli isn't just thinking about fapping to images of little girls having sex. It IS fapping to images of little girls having sex. It's more like a murderer chaining up a life-sized doll of someone and pretending to gut and mutilate them every night for enjoyment.I am certain we agree on the notion that people who do abuse children or take advantage of them should be punished to the fullest extent of the law. The reason why the supreme court ruled in favor of lolicon is because no real children are harmed nor taken advantage of. You seem to be blind to one major point. No actual person is harmed. Our system of laws only punish people for actual harm done or actively attempting to harm someone. To put it bluntly 'Until we do something to a child we are doing nothing wrong".
So by your logic we should throw people people in jail for looking at guro or by killing someone in a video game because you can't tell the difference between reality and fantasy. Do us all a favor and keep your opinions out of the legal system. I prefer to have my laws written on a factual basis and not somebodies morality.
Smegma wrote...
So I just want everyone in this thread to know, whether you'll ever do any real harm or not, you still disgust me and I will work to undermine your sick way of life until the day I die, for the good of mankind.Give my regards to the others at your next angry moms meeting.
I named him Ted after the penguin in the CTRL-ALT-DEL comic
