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Some issues with the law need to be changed if abortion is to remain legal. If you can kill a human for convenience (money,etc) then a person should not be punished for the death of a pregnant woman's fetus. Under current laws, you can be charged with two counts of murder if a pregnant woman dies yet, a woman can abort her fetus and not be charged with murder. The law needs to be consistent.
ZeroOBK wrote...
Zak wrote...
New one...Spoiler:
Man... I need to find a hobby... -__-'...
Somehow, "insert your disk" just doesn't fit the mood as well as "insert your cartridge". Also lacks touchscreen lulz.
At least the DS can be DP'd. From both the front and behind.
...Why am I adding to this???
gibbous wrote...
I'm not pro-choice. I'm pro-abortion, plain and simple. No sugarcoating.To me, if you can support the murder of one human then by association you support the murder of anybody. At the absolute, basic core of this. You are killing a human being. Only the details change.
As for the killing the doctor=hypocrisy. Their logic may be along the lines of "Kill one, save a dozen or a hundred" Stopping the doctor from performing the abortions prevents him from ever doing it again. While I can see their logic and I am very sympathetic to their ideals, I don't condone their actions. I'm sure even WhiteLion will agree with me that murder = murder now matter how you sugarcoat it.
I however can accept abortion when it is to save the life of the mother and only to save the life of a mother. I would prefer the death of one vs the death of both.
Arizth wrote...
Anyway, while you may think that, I get this impression that your paranoia is getting the better of you, and you are overreacting. I'm not one for ignoring problems and hoping they go away, but I don't see our domestic spying issues escalating into Orwellian levels any time soon. I, probably overly optimistically, predict that once the Internet generation enters the political field proper, issues like Net Neutrality will cease to be an issue. The other problems won't be solved merely by arguing about then on the net, so I can't comment. I am not evading the issue. I'd like to plead the fifth, for fear my lack of knowledge will make me add something stupid(er) to the spiel.I wouldn't call it paranoia as seeing current events foreshadowing future ones. Everyday I turn on the news and I hear that government is growing or somebody else is claiming the government needs to do this or that. Everything from the fairness doctrine to expanding government controlled education (by preventing expansion of private or home schooling). Somebody calling for more government control over industry or nationalizing them. These events are the seeds of Orwellian Ministries like the Ministry of Plenty. The current mass media is like the Ministry of Truth. Anything against the party is damned but, anything within the party is treated like a savior by some. Domestic spying is showing signs of becoming the Ministry of love.
Do you think the people in the Orwellian society would see it as such? These types of changes are subtle so it won't be blatantly obvious.
Arizth wrote...
Besides, it's not like we live in an Orwellian society, where Big Bro' is watching you at every hour. Even if we "lose" freedoms, it doesn't mean we have to give them up.And, if big brother does decide to take a keen interest in my life, then I think I'd either leave, or failing that, fight.
You don't step outside much do you? The minute you step outside you are on camera or being watched by something or someone in authority. The American government tapped our phone calls without warrants or court approval which is in violation of our rights. Speech is being censored through various means as legislation is currently in the works to censor and "regulate" information on the internet thus taking us down the road to China's communist government.
Just a few example of how close we really are to an Orwellian society. All we need is a Ministry of Truth and a Ministry of Plenty then we'll be there.
GinIchimaru_09 wrote...
There are many others as well, but things like the right privacy doesn’t bother me I don’t do anything illegal so no worries.If you aren't doing anything wrong then why do they need to monitor you?
Life is meaningless without freedom. For me, there is no choice. So..
Patrick Henry wrote...
Give me Liberty, or give me Death!GinIchimaru_09 wrote...
Of course a big deal should be price’s and wages, if let out of control prices would be too high and wages to low.The nature of competition in capitalism would actual drive prices down and wages up. Companies would pay higher wages trying to attract better employees and prices would go down as they are trying to attract more customers. Look at walmart, as much as I dislike the company they are a good example of this. The prices there are lower than the competitors. Walmart is such a powerful market tool that companies will bend over backwards for to get their product on their shelf which includes keep prices lower.
The only regulation within the "wage" area is a minimum wage otherwise people will work for next to nothing. That minimum wage should be kept low and the reason for this is the people who work for minimum wage are 9/10 students in either college or high school. These jobs don't require skill and are entry level jobs. Also raising minimum wage only brings people down to minimum wage. If I was working for 7/hr and then minimum wage is brought up to 7/hr then I'm not at minimum wage.
On the topic of regulation I'm a minimalist. Unlike some other Libertarians who want a full unregulated laissez faire system. I would like as little regulation as possible but, each piece of regulation to be significant. Things I don't mind regulation on are issues of public health. No asbestos in your walls, no lead in you paint. Things that don't really follow the mantra of "let the market decide". Warning labels are another good example of regulation I support.
As long as the regulation doesn't have a huge impact on he economy as a whole such as cap & trade.
Regulation affects more than you think. This affects almost all employers from small family owned companies to large multinational ones. These are our employers. The people who help us put money in our wallets, food in our stomachs and loli's in our..where ever you keep your loli. The point is, in the end whatever affects them affects us as employees.
Jericho Antares wrote...
That is a good point, a college's credibility has gone downhill in the recent years. A well-versed high school graduate can probably be more knowledgeable than the an average college grad. Its for that reason that I don't often care which candidate gets more votes from college graduates, because they aren't much better than the rest of us.I do agree, though. FOr a test such as the one I envisioned to be effective, there would have to be and even more accessible way to learn of the candidates. Question is if people would actually care enough to learn. As you said, Penguin, more people have voted for American Idol than the presidency.
At this rate, though, I may have to make a new thread (as suggested). I feel that I, for one, indeed am drifting off topic to more of an internal affairs argument than foreign.
Sorry 'bout that, guys.
its no that college has dropped but, Government education is so pathetic that colleges are basically forced to fix the damage the "public" schools did in the first place.
Whitelion is a college student. I've only been to a college because I was visiting someone. Yet, we're both considered intelligent people. I make up for my lack of a worldly education by taking in massive amounts of information while Lion studies his classes. The whole Rock Lee thing about hard work can beat skill.
Anyways, the problem still lingers. How do you deal with an apathetic, uneducated (lacking common sense) public?
if "requirements" are out of the question then there needs to be a way to spread facts to the general populace so people can't fear monger to victory in elections.
Obama ran on the ticket of accountability of politicians and yet, since the first day in office he's done nothing but, saying "we inherited (X)". Since day one in his office he's done nothing but, blame bush and tell us the sky is falling.
People like Obama who only need one term in office to basically throw the proverbial wrench into the works aren't affected by the "Vote'em out of office". Especially, if they are popular which would negate any means to impeach them. Clinton lied under oath which is a cut and dry federal offense and yet, he got off free.
Somehow, someway get information out so people can vote with their brains and not their emotions which proves difficult because the masses are government educated idiots who are more occupied with voting for American idol than for the president. I have personally met people who didn't even know who the president was when Bush was in office. Ziggy told me of a couple instances at a college she attended where people thought Germany was in a depression before ww2 because they were allied with the U.S. and that only those two countries were affected by the Depression and everybody else was hunky dory. These are COLLEGE students... I think I just felt a little piece of me die in a pit of despair. Goodbye hope...I never used you.
Obama ran on the ticket of accountability of politicians and yet, since the first day in office he's done nothing but, saying "we inherited (X)". Since day one in his office he's done nothing but, blame bush and tell us the sky is falling.
People like Obama who only need one term in office to basically throw the proverbial wrench into the works aren't affected by the "Vote'em out of office". Especially, if they are popular which would negate any means to impeach them. Clinton lied under oath which is a cut and dry federal offense and yet, he got off free.
Somehow, someway get information out so people can vote with their brains and not their emotions which proves difficult because the masses are government educated idiots who are more occupied with voting for American idol than for the president. I have personally met people who didn't even know who the president was when Bush was in office. Ziggy told me of a couple instances at a college she attended where people thought Germany was in a depression before ww2 because they were allied with the U.S. and that only those two countries were affected by the Depression and everybody else was hunky dory. These are COLLEGE students... I think I just felt a little piece of me die in a pit of despair. Goodbye hope...I never used you.
schmitty wrote...
Your soul decays in your immortal bodyI wish you guys didn't ignore my post...
People will never leave you alone
I wish loli would never be illegal in the U.S.
Halatoma wrote...
When you try to count past 28 you lose count and start again.
I wish I had the world's biggest burito!
You'll never leave the bathroom
I wish I was immortal
"I ate an apple today"
"I don't believe you ate an apple today"
Skeptical
"I don't believe the Holocaust happened."
Delusional
"They Jews are behind a conspiracy relating to the supposed "Holocaust"
Completely insane
In order to be skeptical there much be a reasonable amount of evidence (don't start with "what counts are reasonable?" bullshit) to the contrary of the supported claim.
There is a greater opportunity to be skeptical about evolution than the Holocaust because there are a reasonable amount of holes in the entire theory and the improbability of chance.
"I don't believe you ate an apple today"
Skeptical
"I don't believe the Holocaust happened."
Delusional
"They Jews are behind a conspiracy relating to the supposed "Holocaust"
Completely insane
In order to be skeptical there much be a reasonable amount of evidence (don't start with "what counts are reasonable?" bullshit) to the contrary of the supported claim.
There is a greater opportunity to be skeptical about evolution than the Holocaust because there are a reasonable amount of holes in the entire theory and the improbability of chance.
WhiteLion wrote...
Some suggest requiring knowledge or intelligence to vote, but frankly that goes against the whole point of the freedoms that the US constitution specifies, as well as one of the things I love about the US.America wasn't designed to be a democracy. The founding fathers HATED the idea of democracy. To the point that calling someone a democrat was to thoroughly and harshly insult someone by suggesting they believed in mob rule. The original design was for us to elect representatives for our states then they elect the president. Its the core behind the electoral college. The people themselves don't actually elect anybody outside of senators and house members.
PersonDude wrote...
True, but everyone's desires will never be fulfilled or else there would have to be millions of parties. The system we have can potentially work, IF the government would actually do as the people say rather than force shit down our throats and tell us it's what we want.With the current political system we are trying to fit everybody on one side of a coin or another. It'd be a better system overall if there were at least one to two more parties in Washington. Currently, supporters of "moderate" republicans can't tell the lack difference between them and old party Liberals. With even the Republican party split between R.I.N.O.'s, Elephants, etc,etc and the Democratic party split between union boys, environmentalists, PETA supporters, psuedo-euro socialists, etc,etc
Trying to fit everybody under two umbrellas means that more people will get wet than the ones who will stay dry.
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lovetherapist wrote...
hate my home country? definitely...moving out fast... it's a country that the majority have special privileges (quite illogical)hate the US? no.. it's because of their culture/ideology that we have so much "fun" debating around ... on the net at least..
what is confusing to me (i ain't American)is why (in US) is there always the fight for a right to do something e.g. have weapons, have same- sex marriage etc. as oppose to u can do anything u like as long as it doesn't threaten the public interest aka not a criminal activity?
hmmm must be the difference in the way the constitution was written.. care to explain??
Simply, some people think the constitution of our country is a piece of abstract art that can be "interpreted" to whoever is in power and the other half think the constitution is set in stone regardless who is in power as in "The right to free speech means the right to free speech period no exceptions". Libertarians (a large third party) can be simplified to "ye harm none, do what ye will" as in as long as you don't infringe one somebodies rights then have at it. Your choice to smoke like a chimney, to drink until you have Cirrhosis, etc,etc. As long as you don't harm somebody who isn't consenting then it's fair game.
In the end, they (politicians) can't make up their minds if it's abstract or absolute.
Jericho Antares wrote...
The arrogant Americans are the bigots that don't take time to look into the system on government in which they live. What especially pisses me off, however, are people that THINK they are educated and dump all of America's shit on the Republican party. Now, I myself am no too left or right wing. I just find it sad how when something goes badly in this country, the Republican Party takes the blame and even has the decency to not say anything. For instance, this housing crisis (which led to our national economic crisis) is the direst result of sub-prime mortgages brought on by the Clinton Administration because Clinton wanted to be a straight-up Democrat and say "Hey, you should all have houses you can't afford." and the stupid Americans went for it. Sure it worked, for a time, but when the economy started to collapse under Bush and election times came around, Obama blamed it all on him and Bush didn't say a word. (Not that Bush wasn't free of flaws)
I think that what makes Americans bad is the extreme idiocy in trying to always appear progressive while being a bigot. I, personally, know the system of government in which I live, and yes I do look down on some people's system of government in foreign nations, but not because I believe that they should have democracy, but just because I believe they should have some kind of stable government that doesn't prosecute someone. If we tried to change that, though, what else would we install but democracy, the only governmental system we know? Once we try this, however, we're called arrogant for trying to help people. I know back-room politics muck up good intentions, but I believe that if we try to do something to improve the lives of others, we should continue with it even if our appearance diminishes in the world view. I've fought in Iraq and I've seen how life was pre and post Saddam, and the public loved us when Saddam fell. The only mistake we made, if you can call it that, was being tied down by insurgent activity and staying there too long.
Fast-forward 6 years, and we're nosy, fat, dumb, and stupid because we tried to help a people under a dictator.
A large portion of our problems stem from the left trying to implement failed system of Canada and Europe as some weak attempt to be "progressive". As if Europe and Canada are perfect in every way possible. Another source of our problems are hard line republicans. Their main ticket is the economy which isn't a good source for "sound bite" or slogan material. It has to be explained and few people understand it when it is.
Democrat says "we're going to give everybody free health care" then the Republicans says that they oppose it because it won't work by being too expensive and the supporters of the system just denounce the republicans as hateful people because "They want to deny you health care" and "they say your good health isn't worth the cost" and then the population turns against them because they've been made out to be the bad guys.
Social security is another example. Republicans/conservatives want the entire system gone because they see the massive drain it'll be on the government's income and yet again Democrat's tug on American hearts and tell the elderly that those mean ole Republicans want them living out on the street and whatever nonsense they spewed out last time when Social security was a major voting issue.
Hard line Republicans seem to believe that morality should be the base of laws regarding behavior. So they heavily believe in censorship and infringement on separation of church and state,etc
To me, the average person is not represented by either of these groups but, are forced to choose between them for the lack of a better alternative. Don't blame the people, blame the idiots in Washington forcing bullshit down our throats day in and day out.
A paradox is a self-contradictory or counter-intuitive statement or argument.
Hilbert's paradox of the Grand Hotel:
If a hotel with infinitely many rooms is full, it can still take in more guests.
Liars paradox
THE NEXT STATEMENT IS TRUE.
THE PREVIOUS STATEMENT IS FALSE.
Finally
Hilbert's paradox of the Grand Hotel:
If a hotel with infinitely many rooms is full, it can still take in more guests.
Liars paradox
THE NEXT STATEMENT IS TRUE.
THE PREVIOUS STATEMENT IS FALSE.
Finally
Mike wrote...
This makes me feel old... and awesome.Not quite as old or awesome but, a lot more fiery..and penguiny.
Go with my job. Sure the work is unsteady but, when you do work it comes out to about $40/hr...now if only I could work everyday.
Oh BTW there is a 3k equipment cost. You don't have to buy it all at once but, trust me. You'll need it. Don't forget the $1500+ for your car to be modified for it also. THAT you will need to buy up front.
I vote Best Buy. The savings technically add more "income" as that money is actually saved which can be put elsewhere.
Oh BTW there is a 3k equipment cost. You don't have to buy it all at once but, trust me. You'll need it. Don't forget the $1500+ for your car to be modified for it also. THAT you will need to buy up front.
I vote Best Buy. The savings technically add more "income" as that money is actually saved which can be put elsewhere.
