Fiery_penguin_of_doom Posts
razama wrote...
But I boo on all your smart phones! I have to have a clunky international cell phone :( or I can't get calls from the US, and I'd have to get a japanese cell phone provider.I suggest things like Pingo and GO-Sim
Pingo is a calling card with excellent rates and the go-sim is a provider of global sim cards for "unlocked" cell phones. You can find ways to unlock your normal cell phone or you can buy one off eBay. Both of these are highly recommended by Clark Howard who is a self made millionaire and a host of a consumer advocate radio show.
People are spending far too much on their cell phones nowadays. Hell, my ex had a cellphone she bought for $20 and the monthly payment was $20. Then again the phone was bare bones basic with calling and text message. All I use my phone for is calling and the occasional text message so I think a lot of this shit is useless bells and whistles to fluff up a horrible service and a phone that may or may not be all that great.
Angelus, I'm sure there were far better deals out there than the iPhone. Frankly, I think you bought it just for the status of saying "I have an iPhone" but whatever, it's your money
Smegma wrote...
In my opinion, to avoid some serious shit, loli should be banned globally and lolicons should be hunted down, thrown in jail and labeled as sexual predators for the rest of their lives. But that's just how I feel.
You are entitled to your opinion, no matter how asinine it is. People like you have lead to the moral hysteria about child predators that a father can't even take pictures of his own children in a park without being harassed.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1035315/Father-branded-pervert--photographing-children-public-park.html
People have gone too far when trying to link lolicon= Pedophilia. The main difference is one is a bunch of pixels/ink/paper while the other is flesh/blood/bone. We are literally trying to punish people for holding this. What's next? Jailing guro fans for murder?
Joe-kun wrote...
Is it so hard for people to believe that someone can like Loli hentai and NOT like actual underage girls? Really, is it that goddamn difficult? I know a lot of people who read/watch Loli stuff, and they don't lust after every kid they see.Just because someone likes loli doesn't mean they're also a pedo, or even show pedo traits. Not all furries have a lust to fuck animals, yet that's the stereotype. Everyone's entitled to an opinion, etc., but for the love of christ, try listening to someone else's argument before saying "I'm right, you're wrong, go fuck yourself."
I'm not saying you guys are 100% wrong - A few people with loli hentai have also been caught with actual CP, but that's only been what ... 3 court cases that had that? Like I said, just because someone likes loli does NOT mean they like actual children, no matter what society's drilled into your skull.
Not like it matters though; this argument's been had way too many times to even count around here and other hentai forums. I don't know why people bother anymore, it'll always end on a disagreement and thread lock.
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I have a collection of lolicon and yet, I hate children. Well, not really hate but, I find them extremely annoying and especially not sexually attractive. The whole hysteria about child predators has me debating if I would even help a child in danger due to incidents like these
http://indecent.newsvine.com/_news/2007/06/29/810522-man-sees-two-year-old-alone-drives-by-did-pedophile-hysteria-cause-a-childs-death
This whole thing is outrageous. Lolicons won't not will they ever go out to molest a child or harm a living child in any way. While some child predators look at lolicon, lolicons don't look at child porn (A=B B≠A).
Sir Craven wrote...
I've originally had a friend who was a pedophile(yeah nothing to be proud of...)one day i persuade him to read some "loli-doujin" and gave a few links to download "loli-games" after that he didn't even glance at little-girls the way he did before, guess thanks to that he was saved from jail... The world is coming to an end if they BAN us from this!: Spoiler:
I know you were trying to help but, you basically shot our foot off with this post. You are SO paying the medical bill.
What is keeping me alive? Possibly the fear that ziggy would kill me if I died. That and I am pretty sure hell isn't filled with prinnies.
Welcome to the real world. As the band NOFX says
NOFX wrote...
it's not the right time to be sobernow the idiots have taken over
spreading like a social cancer, is there an answer?
Coco-tan wrote...
What? People married? In my FAKKU?I believe he is speaking of a member that has drifted away from the community a long time ago. I don't know the details but, she met some guy and got married but, I don't think he was a member here.
Tsurayu wrote...
TehMikuruSlave wrote...
Simply ignore their posts manually rather than asking a computer to do it for you, you lazy fucks.Pssh. Pathetic to -rep you just because you tell it like it is. I'll take care of that.
I don't think there will ever be a way to solve this issue. Someone, somewhere is going to hate the staff's decision on how to handle this, but quite frankly this is an issue where the staff shouldn't have to come to the members for a majority. To be honest, I'm not really happy with the way it is being handled by just simply, and constantly, moving threads around. It isn't doing anything to curb the habit, and it is annoying to keep track of where everything is moved to.
In the end it is just going to be up to how the members behave. There just has to be some sort of set standard, etched it stone, and if you can't at least apply yourself to a certain level then you should be banned.
At least you and I can agree on that. I only support the block user because of how it seems that misbehaving is not discouraged but, in fact it seems to be rewarded. Rules aren't universally applied which basically gives a green light of know the right people and the rules don't apply to you.
Tsurayu wrote...
I mean this whole thing about the quality of your individual posts. Like this "I agree." nonsense. Sometimes you want to post and you don't have a damn detailed, analytical, approach to what you say. I know it isn't going that far, but I feel like it eventually could. I fail to see what's wrong. Most people are having fun, and the handful of people who are grumpy about this could just as easily ignore it. Maybe I'm just not seeing the big picture, but it seems like a clear minority who are complaining about this.
The elders and by that I mean the people who have been active members since before Rukia92 got hitched. We've seen the community go downhill and we would really prefer that we stop the trend before it gets much worse. In other words, we don't want Fakku becoming another 4chan.
The mods and admin will never get too iron fist here so I don't see what you are worrying about. Though, I can understand your concern since you haven't been here as long as the ones complaining about the problem but, as you spend more time here you'll meet some really awesome people. Hell, I'm living with someone I met here on Fakku.
gibbous wrote...
Random thoughts:- What truly speaks against this feature is the effort it would take to implement, especially seeing how people could just mentally ignore each other.
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- I don't have any ethical qualms with ignoring people.
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- I don't have a problem with people never having the chance to redeem themselves once you ignore them either.
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- Lastly, I personally don't mind trolls so much as long as they're genuinely funny (admittedly rarely the case).
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Well put. Especially the part about trolls. I like the idea of simply ignoring the people I deem too stupid to waste my time on. A lot of older members will remember Chuu and his various other forms and by simply hitting "ignore" then I wouldn't be bothered with his posts for the rest of my time on Fakku. I see no down side to how I would use this system but, as others have pointed out the system is flawed in several ways that will ultimately bring it downfall and these are not flaws that can be tweaked or tinkered away from the core entity.
Edit; everybody likes a good troll to stir things up. Especially, when they are funny but, we don't have any of those trolls here.
Yorozuya wrote...
Well I guess there isn't a good reason, flaming other users and doing w/e else that is negative shouldn't be allowed here on the forums. But I think it's fine unless it gets way out of hand like a post flaming someone for the lulz versus someone making a whole thread about flaming someone.So, the rules don't apply as long as it's funny. Makes perfect sense...
We aren't trying to judge "quality of post". To be completely honest I don't even recall that ever being mentioned. I guess maybe you are referring to the "debate" as to what kind of post or topic qualities for Random or I.B. Which really isn't that difficult.
If the topic is serious and you want a lengthy serious discussion then it goes in S.D. (Religion, Politics,etc)
If you want serious replies but, the topic isn't very series. Tattoo topics,
If you don't care about the replies and even care about what people reply with then this is where it would go. Memes, video topics and the like would go here. This is about as close to 4chan Fakku will ever get.
yet, some people can't seem to grasp the concept that Random ≠I.B.
This is about the only thing I can think of when people talk about "Quality of posts"
If the topic is serious and you want a lengthy serious discussion then it goes in S.D. (Religion, Politics,etc)
If you want serious replies but, the topic isn't very series. Tattoo topics,
If you don't care about the replies and even care about what people reply with then this is where it would go. Memes, video topics and the like would go here. This is about as close to 4chan Fakku will ever get.
yet, some people can't seem to grasp the concept that Random ≠I.B.
This is about the only thing I can think of when people talk about "Quality of posts"
Tsurayu wrote...
Agreed. A hard crackdown is absolutely not what this site needs right now. That's why I'm worried about what Nikon and others are doing with Random. Its just one more step to being too strict on Fakku. This place is a fun place to be because we don't have strict rules and moderators. I mean if I want that I'll go to one of the other countless sites that hold their members hands, and tell them how to speak to others. I like it here because it is up to me on how to act.I'm not asking for an iron fist crack down where bans are unloaded on people like gats. I want this place to be just as fun as it is but, flaming, harassing other users and generally being a douche shouldn't be a part of "the fun" of the community. You want that sort of community 4chan is right here.. Fakku isn't 4chan, so lets stop trying to make it such.
For the sake of argument: I would like to hear a "reason" as to why flaming and such negative behaviors actually benefit the community as a whole.
Yorozuya wrote...
Well we're starting to crack down on these things a bit more so I do report such things if they ever occur, but generally sometimes we let it go on for the lulz. We're not trying to encourage trolling, but there are times where we will just look the other way and blocking the user might not let you see the thread/posts of that user but in reality it will be there and others will see it.We have rules and they should be enforced. If something like "It was funny" counts as a valid reason to let somebody break the rules then we shouldn't even have the damn things in the first place.
g-money wrote...
@FPOD: well, it is being worked on hopefully by Nikon and the others. Then again, I haven't seen a bad case of trolling since Chuu! and his many incarnations before lollollol12.From my perspective, the admins have taken far too long to address the problem of trolls and other trouble makers. The community as a whole seems to encourage this behavior. This leaves maybe, a couple dozen members out of all registered member to even bother reporting anything which may or may not have any action taken. So I would prefer to just outright block these people so I don't see their posts or threads instead of having to make a conscious effort to "avoid" them.
While I applaud Nikon and others for taking some action it'll take more than a polite request to make a change in this community.
From what I have heard, the movie will be directed or produced by the guy behind Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon & Jet Li's HERO. Not exactly 100% sure on that but, still. At least the director is respectable, it could be worse.
Ramsus wrote...
This is a terrible idea. If everyone is ignoring people then they won't be reporting them which will not discourage others from making spam posts. Secondly even if 99% of what a given person says is crap you'll still miss out on the one good thing they have to say or at least have a hard time following the conversation of a thread with them involved in it. Since people quote other people a lot this still won't prevent you from seeing what they said. Also I feel that the idea kinda goes against the spirit of things here at Fakku, since you would be effectively deciding that someone will never have anything good to say. This will just increase the feeling of and possibly actually produce the mythical elitism that some users feel is a threat.Ignoring trolls will result in Elitism? That's a new one. The admin seem to neutered when it comes to handling trolls. Reporting them won't do anything if nobody with authority will seriously do anything about the problem. Hell, Lolol-whatever was only banned because he went too far. That basically set a "guide" for troll behavior. You can be an asshole, racist, sexist, douche bag so long as you don't go quite that far. If he had toned it down a little bit then he would have stayed regardless of the fact that he was harassing users and generally being a douche.
At least ignoring them will get them out of sight and out of mind but, the problem of people quoting them thus being able to see what they posted in the first place still lingers. It's a good idea but, not one that can be implemented effectively.
I think the whole topic is a general statement of "The trolls are a problem, do something about it!"
The fireworks near here were alright but, the night was basically ruined due to the idiots that felt that acting like drunken frat boys and sorority girls was the epitome patriotism. These people didn't understand the concept of personal space or what constituted proper behavior in public. I even had beer spilled on me...
Just the kind of idiocy that makes you wish that you had the authority to arrest them or just shoot them in the face. Either works fine.
At least I got to see some pretty lights and hear some loud booms.
Just the kind of idiocy that makes you wish that you had the authority to arrest them or just shoot them in the face. Either works fine.
At least I got to see some pretty lights and hear some loud booms.
Arizth wrote...
Fiery_penguin_of_doom wrote...
Arizth wrote...
Hmm. I blame this on being small-minded, but I can't for the life of me imagine a universe where physics and chemistry are different from our own.You are trying to apply current reality to a possible one. Under that theory I mentioned, I assume the basic elements would be different. Their atomic structures would be changed, molecules would behave differently from what we expect. Water may not even be a possibility as the chemical reaction would not even be possible.
It is only a theory though but, an intriguing one to say the least.
Hmm...
So, theoretically, a universe akin to an existence we commonly see in Media, say High Fantasy, is possible so long as the proper accidents happen during creation?
For instance, to go with High Fantasy, the evolution of beings capable or controlling latent energy flows scattered throughout their version of nature?
Hell, I'm getting annoyed just imagining it. It makes our universe so droll by comparison.
Theoretically, yes. Though the probability of carbon based lifeforms such as ourselves coming into existence is highly unlikely. We need water and in this "new" universe water may not even be physically possible to make as the structures and characteristics of the atoms themselves are changed. This extends to ALL elements in the universe.
The theory rests somewhere between the Big Bounce and a Multi-verse theory.
First lolicon then hentai in general under the guise that they "look" underage when the represented character is said to be over the proper age. This is how censorship works, not by wildly hacking at the material but, slow and surgical cuts. First they take away what everybody dislikes then they take away what most people dislike,etc,etc all the way until only that which everybody agrees can be shown.
These sorts of things are always the first stepping stone to larger censorship.
As others have said before:
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.
Then they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.
Then they came for the trade unionists,
I did not protest;
I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews,
I did not speak out;
I was not a Jew.
When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out for me.
Edit: Another quote. Feel free to throw in your own terms.
and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a lolicon.
Then they came for the rape fetishists,
and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a rape fetishist.
Then they came for me,
and by that time no one was left to speak up.
I would think the best thing we can do for now is to raise awareness among the community.
These sorts of things are always the first stepping stone to larger censorship.
As others have said before:
Gambler wrote...
Here is one of those quotes I found on the various blog sites covering the recent ban on rape eroge and possibly loli as well as non-human characters. I guess it holds a certain extent of truth.anonymous wrote...
When the Nazis came for the communists,I remained silent;
I was not a communist.
Then they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.
Then they came for the trade unionists,
I did not protest;
I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews,
I did not speak out;
I was not a Jew.
When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out for me.
Edit: Another quote. Feel free to throw in your own terms.
Anonymous wrote...
They came first for the lolicons,and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a lolicon.
Then they came for the rape fetishists,
and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a rape fetishist.
Then they came for me,
and by that time no one was left to speak up.
I would think the best thing we can do for now is to raise awareness among the community.
PersonDude wrote...
Fiery_penguin_of_doom wrote...
One of the former presidents made it a principal of the United states to be the law enforcement of the western Hemisphere.The person that really got this ball rolling (officially) is Harry Truman who conceived the Truman Doctrine.
That's what I was looking for, The Truman Doctrine. Thank you PD for finally ending my curiosity.
Due to actions of Truman and others we have the mentality that America should police the world. That we should be the ones who lead the world to democracy and freedom. Which isn't exactly a popular idea outside of the "leading" country.
I'll admit that I wasn't exactly clear when I started this thread but, when I said religion I was really referencing institutionalized morality.
The reason I question this is because of how morality and ethics differ from person to person. Without an institution to keep morality and ethics anchored to a standard then they would fall apart and I assumed people would eventually just become moral nihilists but, that is probably my cynical pessimism talking.
The reason I question this is because of how morality and ethics differ from person to person. Without an institution to keep morality and ethics anchored to a standard then they would fall apart and I assumed people would eventually just become moral nihilists but, that is probably my cynical pessimism talking.