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leonard267
FAKKU Non-Writer
sora_coltrane wrote...
leonard267 wrote...
sora_coltrane wrote...
I just love how you keep quoting names like Robert Malthus and Jawaharlal Nehru. You just keep thithering around the fine line of truth and randomness lolPart and parcel of this writer's writing style. Written thus to amuse myself and hopefully others.
That said, have you read the 4000 word entry of mine?
Hey man, I haven't. There's a lot of things going on, but I'll drop by with comments soon.
I take it back. It is not a 4000 word entry, it is a 4000 word monstrosity!
high_time wrote...
leonard267 wrote...
Reads like what you write! Now I really begin to doubt whether Tranquil Places was really your work!I think there's limited set of possibilities if we use that thing to write stories. so yeah =)
I was pulling your leg. Not to worry!
leonard267
FAKKU Non-Writer
high_time wrote...
leonard267 wrote...
What happens at the end of the story? I am a bit prudish so I did not watch the entire video.
spoiler inside
Spoiler:
At least there is a good ending.
leonard267
FAKKU Non-Writer
high_time wrote...
Xenon wrote...
I should probably take some giant offense to this, or at least voice some sort of disapproval, but I don't and I won't. +rep
hahaha. I'm very sorry about that. I automatically think about your name when I want to pair up leo's story with someone else =D
Reads like what you write! Now I really begin to doubt whether Tranquil Places was really your work!
leonard267
FAKKU Non-Writer
high_time wrote...
as an intermezzo let me introduce you guys to this so-called pinnacle of RPG Maker Gameswords cannot express to how much I loved this game. totally epic from the start to finish.
What happens at the end of the story? I am a bit prudish so I did not watch the entire video.
sora_coltrane wrote...
d(^_^)(^_^)d wrote...
That takes care of some of the problems I have with it, Sora, but I'm still not in love with the idea. As Cinia said though, you're the one putting this together. And as I said before, if everyone else wants to go with it, then I have no choice but to do so as well.Sore wrote...
With regards to the production part; regular visual novels follow a consistent format which everyone is familiar with, backgrounds and still images positioned a certain way with click and read game play with occasional choices. At this point, the Vn format has outevolved this and sticking to that is a sure shot way to being forgotten. We can discuss more about this in the Visual Novel and Eroge thread or Skype later.Maybe it's because I haven't played a lot of visual novels, but I'm not sure what you're getting at. How have they evolved beyond reading and making occasional choices?
That's just an idea, but we'll see you know, maybe we all of us might come up with something great instead and decide on that!
With regards to the Visuals, Muv Luv and Mahoutsukai no yoru they are examples of how Visuals on VN's are displayed.
There are those that give player a choice to determine where they want to go and who they want to interact with instead eg
Alicesoft,TRUE LOVE ~純愛物語~ and even devil’s journal tony t. You get to control the direction of the narrative as well. True Love is old, but this example of a hybrid that shows how settings that can be used over and over and still remain fresh.
What I wanted to drive on more was that Fakku users are forced into a scenario where they really get to develop and bond with each other. If anything this was the direction I was headed I believe.
I am of the opinion that you should come up with the setting of the story or indeed the general plot of the story like someone mentioned earlier. Doesn't matter if all of us are not happy with it. There are so many ideas presented that I think it is quite impossible to accommodate all of them.
leonard267
FAKKU Non-Writer
high_time wrote...
speaking of anti-climatic things, I kind of like them. it also reminds me that many happenings in real life are also anti-climatic.one example of it :
Spoiler:
yeah
That is precisely what I like!
leonard267
FAKKU Non-Writer
sora_coltrane wrote...
I just love how you keep quoting names like Robert Malthus and Jawaharlal Nehru. You just keep thithering around the fine line of truth and randomness lolPart and parcel of this writer's writing style. Written thus to amuse myself and hopefully others.
That said, have you read the 4000 word entry of mine?
leonard267
FAKKU Non-Writer
d(^_^)(^_^)d wrote...
leonard267 wrote...
[quote="d(^_^)(^_^)d"]It could end up anti-climatic depending on how you handle it, but betraying expectations or rather, playing on expectations, isn't enough.
That is what is by definition. All anticlimaxes disappoint and so betray expectations. You needn't dislike an anticlimax though. I enjoy writing anticlimactically to humour myself and others.
No. I'd say a climax is only anti-climatic if it disappoints.
Yes. If it disappoints, it betrays expectations. (And I know that the reverse is not necessarily true) I am humoured when I see disappointment.
leonard267
FAKKU Non-Writer
Xenon wrote...
leonard267 wrote...
I thought that this entry was two separate stories because I did not spot the transition and the setting was completely different. It is quite possible for the first part to be omitted completely and the story would still flow smoothly.Well, the transitions are incredibly obvious because of the horizontal bar he adds in, signifying a scene change.
I disagree that the first part wasn't needed, however, as it set in the premises that Jason was in an accident and became blind. This was probably the reason for the escapist dreams taking place. Without that part, it just seems like a dreamer who has a tsundere little sister and a girlfriend he loves. Which is true, but him being blind creates the setting that their interaction with him is taking place, even on less than pleasant terms.
The break can signal a transition or a beginning of an entirely different story!
I did not know which was which. When I said the first part was not needed, what I meant was we can begin the story with him in the fantasy world and it would seem alright to me because there is little to no reference to the real world after the first break.
He hadn’t realized how much he had missed seeing things
I misunderstood this sentence that is most likely the only connection between the real world and the fantasy world. I thought that by 'seeing things' the author meant the pleasure of sightseeing or hallucinating. I would have said that it was jarring and disorientating for him to be able to see again having had lost his sight for so long.
What I feel is, while there is a transition, it ought to be made more prominent perhaps with more words contrasting both the real and fantasy worlds.
leonard267
FAKKU Non-Writer
sora_coltrane wrote...
I settled down and got even more serious about the Fakku Visual Novel, especially with regards to the story. I sincerely ask for your attention. Below is a premise I want to base the Fakku Visual Novel on. Please read the following and give me your honest thoughts.
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Future Fakku Userz exists in a virtual reality city where Fakku is tabooed.
People used to live in reality, however the world became inhabitable so they are forced into virtual worlds while their physical bodies are sustained in pods.
The new identity that the people have gotten since being forced into the virtual world, some of them choose different lives for themselves, seeing this as a second chance, while some live the same way.
The protagonist is someone who is trying to make a meaning out of all of this. From his lifestyle of constant Fakku to the virtual world where nothing is real and nothing remains. The lack of meaning in living in a artifical world.
When the Protagonist is at a Fakku Convention one day, he’s told by Anon to meet with Momoka alone. Instead of Momoka, he meets Heroine who is here to meet Momoka alone as well. Authority forces appear suddenly to crack down and arrest them. They escape together.
Along with a few others who got out of the convention, they learn that the virutal reality deems Momoka as a virus entity and they are trying to crack down on Fakku and H content. They want to reset the Fakku users into ordinary people leading predetermined life patterns to ensure stability so they can fix the world outside.
The protagonist and those who all got out receives a message shortly from Jacob Grady, who is no longer in the virtual world but the real world, about escaping the authorities and virtual world, telling them to find Momoka, because she will help them escape.
They each plan to search for Momoka and investigate the truth on their own because its safer. They keep in contact with each other through chat messages, irc, forum boards etc (the advanced and futuristic equivalent of these). According to the choices made and the relationships developed with the chosen character, they eventually team up with each other while some of them remain as loners.
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I will go with this story. As of late, I am incredibly busy so I will not be contributing much. I can make suggestions and comments on the contributions to your project.
The story is based on this website. The first ideas that came to my mind are my online activities on this site and of course attempts to ruin the site to serve as a source of conflict. Spambots, unwelcomed users, psychological torment all come into mind. A monologue is already forming in my head lamenting the idiocy of those who confuse cyberspace with the real world (which must mean references to Sword Art Online).
PS: I understand Momoka is the mascot of the site but it seems as if she is someone else in your story. Who is she exactly? A visitor to that virtual world? Is she part of that world?
I am not so sure what the story is about. Our protagonist is stuck in the virtual world which is named after this website. An incident involving Momoka occurs leading him to escape into the real world. He is then tasked to go back into the virtual world to find her?
They want to reset the Fakku users into ordinary people leading predetermined life patterns to ensure stability so they can fix the world outside.
What does this mean exactly? Do they want to trap the inhabitants in the virtual world? Do the antagonists want to control the real world? (I suppose this is what you meant by world outside?)
leonard267
FAKKU Non-Writer
d(^_^)(^_^)d wrote...
Makes me wonder why do you feel the need to point that out. I will defend the use of the word because this is a nonsense entry and because it is appropriate. I thought you would instead point out that The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe was written by C.S Lewis not Lewis Carroll!
Plagiarism does not necessarily mean taking the exact thing and claiming it for my own. Even paraphrased words and ideas taken without permission is considered plagiarism, at least according to my university.
There is a parallel though. The Aristocrat and the Peasant were characters in the story just like the Lion and the Witch. Lewis's story took place (effectively) in a wardrobe while mine took place in the City.
If you were to argue that plagiarism cannot be used for something as brief as a title I would concede that you have a point. Now, feel free to accuse me of splitting hairs.
I felt the need to point it out because I think you're too self-deprecating sometimes. I realize that you may be doing it for comical effect, but it pisses me off when people go, "Hey, read my stuff that sucks."
Paraphrasing may count, but I'm still convinced that what you did is a step above that, at least. Going back to my example, "The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly" has a title set up in a similar fashion and features prominently characters who are good, bad, and ugly. And if you try to tell me that it too is plagiarizing, I'll track you down and strangle you.
Also, I've never read The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe before and know nothing about the guy who wrote it.
Exaggeration and self-deprecation tickle me, so does irony. I find it amusing to persuade others to read something that is no good even though most would recommend others to read things that are of quality. It seems that what annoys you pleases me.
leonard267
FAKKU Non-Writer
high_time wrote...
leonard267 wrote...
No. Sleep. For some reason, sitting in the office is very exhausting.
I see.
I myself don't like office atmosphere that much either =D
I don't mind it but even though I don't exert that much energy, I feel exhausted after work! We have to come up with a story for sora it seems. Any suggestions? I liked kuro's entry, d's entry and there are many entries about wars and the like.
We can mix them up all together (the worst option) and I could do laughing at the end result.
leonard267
FAKKU Non-Writer
Xenon wrote...
leonard267 wrote...
I failed to pick up the transition between the real world and fantasy and the introduction of new characters did make me think that I was reading another story. If I picked up the word "Jason" instead of "he" at the first transition, I think I would not have made that mistake. Too many 'he's.Yes, both the hero and the main character's names are 'Jason' and that's what tipped me off, but I honestly didn't even need the name because I could almost predict it was him since the transitions only occur when Jason goes to sleep. I mean, explanations of a different mystical world after someone goes to sleep? It's pretty obviously a transition to a dream.
The repetition of 'he' in these perspective tales is always a difficulty, especially when you try to create them in third-person but tell them from a particular character's point-of-view, in this case, Jason. It becomes easier when you try to act as narrator and less as a person. My suggestion is to use their name first when referencing them as the subject for the first time in a paragraph, but my paragraphs are much larger. For stories much more spaced out like this, it helps to use the name every now and then, more often when confronting different people in a situation.
Those are my little thoughts on fictional writing. Hopefully they help you.
I thought that this entry was two separate stories because I did not spot the transition and the setting was completely different. It is quite possible for the first part to be omitted completely and the story would still flow smoothly.
leonard267
FAKKU Non-Writer
d(^_^)(^_^)d wrote...
Eh, transitions can be off-putting if handled badly. I myself had no problems with the transitions from scene to scene in this story though. They're more like mini-chapters in this case. They all come together, but alone, they're sorta self-contained.
That is the problem for me. If there is no proper transition, I would view the chapters as separate stories especially if it begins with some new character or a totally different setting. That was what happened to me when I read Xenon's and turiondel's entries.
d(^_^)(^_^)d wrote...
I didn't say to completely ignore stuff. What I meant was stop worrying about how everything fits together.
At some point of time, I would still have to piece everything together. I misunderstood what you said. I thought you were implying that I should ignore the parts that are not so relevant to the story.
Xenon wrote...
Yes, that is indeed how monarchies work, I believe.
Really depends on the political situation. Some crowns pass on to distant cousins like what had happened during the Glorious Revolution (which wasn't really bloody) of 1688 or when the . Of course, we have the bloodier revolutions in China that sees a new family being installed.
leonard267
FAKKU Non-Writer
high_time wrote...
leonard267 wrote...
Glad you did.
I am so busy at work now.
go slack off a bit and enjoy eyeing old ladies?
No. Sleep. For some reason, sitting in the office is very exhausting.
leonard267
FAKKU Non-Writer
Xenon wrote...
leonard267 wrote...
PS: Xenon, the first part of your story made more sense now. I am still puzzled about the prince who was training after the first break. Is he one of the sons of our hero? (not the baby)Spoiler:
My mistake. I thought the prince was the 10 year old boy. I wanted to know who the 10 year old boy was. I suppose he is not the baby from the first part. To complicate matters of course, the prince becomes king and the 10 year old boy must become prince.
That is why I use the word 'hero' or the main character of the story who is the Prince in pursuit of the witch.
leonard267
FAKKU Non-Writer
high_time wrote...
oh that, I enjoyed it. even though I sometimes kinda lost in what's going on it really made me laugh hard lol xDGlad you did.
I am so busy at work now.
leonard267
FAKKU Non-Writer
Revelation wrote...
I feel like I caused this.Not at all.
high, you might enjoy this.
https://www.fakku.net/forums/writing-and-fanfiction/story-title-not-included#4070953
leonard267
FAKKU Non-Writer
Simply wonderful. This reminds me of what high_time subjects me to all the time.
leonard267
FAKKU Non-Writer
Xenon wrote...
leonard267 wrote...
Correct me if I am wrong. You are writing three separate stories and combining these stories into one entry aren't you?No, I don't think that's the case. You seem to be rather confused with a lot of the entries reading your comments on them. It seems to me that this is the story of a man who lost his sight and is having dreams in fantasy settings where he can escape his handicap and be a hero with incredible power. The end of the dream sequence seems to end a bit abruptly, as he defies the queen and is taken away, but that may have symbolism as well.
I rather enjoyed this. It's always nice to read a good tragedy that has a sweet undertone. Plus, this is written well and mostly error-free. Well done.
I will admit that I did not go through this story as thoroughly as I did with your entry because of a lack of time. I read it again and it seems to be the case.
I asked turiondel this question so as to confirm whether the story was written with that in mind. I failed to pick up the transition between the real world and fantasy and the introduction of new characters did make me think that I was reading another story. If I picked up the word "Jason" instead of "he" at the first transition, I think I would not have made that mistake. Too many 'he's.
Reading it properly, I feel that the story was good in properly introducing the characters in the fantasy world. The language is understandable and it made for a good read.
leonard267
FAKKU Non-Writer
d(^_^)(^_^)d wrote...
"The Aristocrat, The Peasant, and The City" doesn't plagiarize "The Lion, the Which, and the Wardrobe" anymore than "The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly" does. Plagiarizing would be taking the exact thing and using it for your own work. I haven't read this entry yet, but I did feel the need to point that out.
Makes me wonder why do you feel the need to point that out. I will defend the use of the word because this is a nonsense entry and because it is appropriate. I thought you would instead point out that The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe was written by C.S Lewis not Lewis Carroll!
Plagiarism does not necessarily mean taking the exact thing and claiming it for my own. Even paraphrased words and ideas taken without permission is considered plagiarism, at least according to my university.
There is a parallel though. The Aristocrat and the Peasant were characters in the story just like the Lion and the Witch. Lewis's story took place (effectively) in a wardrobe while mine took place in the City.
If you were to argue that plagiarism cannot be used for something as brief as a title I would concede that you have a point. Now, feel free to accuse me of splitting hairs.
Xenon wrote...
Concerning this entry concerning that war concerning that wedding...I just cannot fathom your satirical brilliance.Reading this is akin to reading poetry for me. I can like the flow and tune, but attempting to judge art is something that is terribly difficult to do.
It is because I am bad at coming up with titles and I want my titles to clearly indicate what the story is about even to the extent of spoiling the story. "The Return of the King" is a very good title! Gives away the ending of the story!
high_time wrote...
a commentary about your own entry. I appreciate the touch of humor in this one, although to be said, I kind of enjoyed the parodied entry more than this one. still a nice touch =DWe disagree again! I preferred this entry!