sv51macross Posts
Gatheringsin wrote...
razama wrote...
Personally I'd much rather try to educate the public and politicians before resorting to an armed march.
OR.... it could be a peaceful armed march. We all strap ourselves with Assualt rifles and peacefully march down to the white house. The secret service will freak... "Well technically it is within their rights..." "Yeah but the got rocket launchers man!!!"
Rights are like muscles, you got to use em or you lose em.
You missed the panic this summer when gun owners were showing up to those townhalls packing heat?
That was hilarious. Chris in Arizona, man did he have balls. The media sure had fun with him though.
Gatheringsin wrote...
lollollol12 wrote...
sv51macross wrote...
So now are we in agreement? Only Saiga-12s and SPAS-15s as shotguns when the hoards rise-up?YEAH MAN, SHOTGUNS WITH CHANGEABLE MAGAZINES IS PROBABLY THE WAY TO GO. EVEN IF THEY GOT A LOW CAP (EVEN IN A DRUM, TBH) ITS BETTER THAN LOADING SHELL BY SHELL INTO A NON-REMOVABLE MAGAZINE
This is the thing with shotguns...
While a removable magazine CAN let you reload faster... that is only until you run out of magazines. at which point you'd have to insert the shotgun shells one by one into the breech of the weapon and fire it that way. By comparison, while a pump action shotgun takes longer to reload completely, you can in theory fire and reload at the same time, and keep that up until you run out of shells.
So yeah, I wouldn't consider mag fed shotties to have too overwhelming an advantage when compared to the more traditional ones (heck, if its that much superior, magfed shotties would've replaced the older ones by now)
The idea would be to have all of one's shell supply already in magazines (would you carry a pouch of bullets along with loaded mags for a rifle?). And even if you were carrying loose shells, the point if to get from cover-to-cover, and mowing through a hoard of zombies can be done very efficiently if you just have to change mags/drums.
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Or what if you come-up against a boss zombie like a Tyrant or Uroboros? :lol: The box-mag shotgun would come in awful handy there, just for sheer ammo-dump capability.
razama wrote...
Actually, I don't think it is that people get used to it. I don't think the general populace ever cared in the first place. That may be a sad truth, but that is just the way it is with hot topic issues. For all the strong opinions each side may have, the silent majority isn't talking because they aren't listening.sv51macross you point out to me 2nd amendment violations I would never of heard of or believed if you didn't post about it though. Maybe because I'm from the south, I can hardly imagine anyone taking away our guns. I think the day that happened, there would be many dead Feds - and I say Feds because I think the local police would back us on keeping our guns. Too many hunters down south in love with their guns.
Well not just hunters though. The 'Eviiilll Black Rifles' have place too.
Personal interpretation of 2nd amendment follows.
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Black rifles, so called 'assault weapons' [what you mean a LAW rocket?] are covered under the Federal constitution (and in the case of Michigan, specifically allowed by the State ('The right of the people to bear arms for defense of oneself and of the state')). In addition, the adage 'When seconds count, the police are minutes away' is very poignantly true. Add in Warren Vs. DC and the breakdown of social order during natural disasters (Rodney King riots, Katrina, ect) and the need for military-style semiautos is apparent.
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Here's a link to the 'myths' page on the NRA/ILA website. They thoroughly, with real statistics, debunk pro-gun-control theories. Another thing that pisses me off. Gun-control proponents have to manipulate the statistics and lie, using fear-tactics and such to convince the public and politicians.
http://www.nraila.org/Issues/Articles/Read.aspx?id=209
Aud1o Blood wrote...
Let's march on the capital, and take it back.....with the guns they confiscated.....
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.......shit.
Personally I'd much rather try to educate the public and politicians before resorting to an armed march.
http://www.sussexcountyjustice.com/guns.html
This burns me so bad. Illogical, lie-induced, random shit-canning madness. Illegally vague rules, warrant-less searches, and stupid legislation. Enjoy the raging to follow.
What I hate is not necessarily how the law is enforced, but how it came about, with the ban proponents intentionally misleading legislators into passing something completely useless.
This burns me so bad. Illogical, lie-induced, random shit-canning madness. Illegally vague rules, warrant-less searches, and stupid legislation. Enjoy the raging to follow.
What I hate is not necessarily how the law is enforced, but how it came about, with the ban proponents intentionally misleading legislators into passing something completely useless.
Wow, Uncle Phil making concise, coherent arguments and proving a point.
Cool.
So now are we in agreement? Only Saiga-12s and SPAS-15s as shotguns when the hoards rise-up?
Cool.
So now are we in agreement? Only Saiga-12s and SPAS-15s as shotguns when the hoards rise-up?
norplover87 wrote...
sorry for bad qualityAs you can see this is why fire arms are illegal in the US. Also did this occur in one area, by one group of cops or is this a spread out incident all over Southern USA?
Uhhuh?
Sarcasm or serious with that bold-ed phrase?
And it was just New Orleans, it was highly illegal, and there is now law on the books preventing it from happening again.
lollollol12 wrote...
SURE THE COMP IS STRONG, BUT I DONT THINK ITS GOING TO DO ANY DAMAGE; ITS NO BAYONET
sv51macross wrote...
As for your issue about weight, I picked an AK over a SBR FAL (see SA58 OSW) or other such weapon. Weight and mobility aren't my foremost concern. Plus, having 75rnds could be a help in hairy situations.TBH WEIGHT AND MOBILITY IS PRETTY IMPORTANT MAN.............
BTW, DITCH THE DRUM AND JUST PRACTICE THIS SHIT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fz5LPaMhlOc
ITS EASY TO LEARN, I SPEAK FROM EXPERIENCE, LOL
Damn that's a quick mag change!
And I forgot about Bayonets. Shame most of them are pretty ungraceful (and disallow the installation of a Masterkey or M203). but If I found a bayonet that looked mean and 'aggressive' to match the CAA fore-end in the OP, then yeah I'd use one.
lollollol12 wrote...
sv51macross wrote...
Here is the Tromix Shark Brake. Great for the zombie or two that strays inside stabbing range. Plus is heavily compensated so should drastically reduce recoil.Spoiler:
YOU THINK THOSE TINY POINTS ARE GONNA DO SHIT? ALL YOU ARE GONNA DO IS GET BLOOD INTO YOUR BARREL AND FUCK WITH THE GUN. BTW, GET READY FOR SOME FUCKING EAR DAMAGE WITH THAT COMP
sv51macross wrote...
I forgot the 75rnd drums too. Here's a pic.Spoiler:
WEIGHT ISSUE. I AM JACKED SO IT WOULDNT PHASE ME, BUT I AN CONCERNED ABOUT YOU
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sv51macross wrote...
Saiga-12 Shotgun (sportsterized w/ stock/pistol grip)-Well, who wouldn't face zombies without a good shotgun. and what better than the semi-automatic, box-magazine fed, AK-actioned Saiga-12? Imported with a combined grip/stock to stay a 'sporting weapon' there are lots of parts to get it back-up to combat snuff. Plus, magazines come in 5,8,10,and 12rnd box and 20rnd-drum flavors, so ammo lasts and reloading is stupid fast, good for crowd control. Plus this sucker will take whatever ammo you want to shove into the chamber, shot, slugs, ect.
SHELLS ARE A BITCH TO CARRY AROUND, SRY 2 SAY
sv51macross wrote...
So this is my Zombie-fighting loadout. $2500 will get me it all tomorrow at my local gun store if I had the cash.PRICE PWNT
So you have experience with the Shark Brake? Just because you're deaf from blasting down your competition w/ your Ingram every night doesn't necessarily mean that any compensator is going to aggrandize the muzzle report than normal. Had I posted a pic of the Hungarian AMD-65 you might have a pint but I haven't heard anything about the Shark Brake increasing noise levels. Secondly, it's an AK. You can wallow it in mud and it'll fire, I don't think a little coagulated blood will affect operation, let alone last a couple discharges. And the brake is made from milled pressure-cast aluminum (or billet, not sure) but either way it's pretty strong, I'm sure stronger than weakened zombie-bones (or more importantly, zombie skulls).
As for your issue about weight, I picked an AK over a SBR FAL (see SA58 OSW) or other such weapon. Weight and mobility aren't my foremost concern. Plus, having 75rnds could be a help in hairy situations.
And shells being hard to carry, that's the point of picking the Saiga-12, which uses box-mags or drums. Yes they're even more bulky than AK mags but for sheer stopping power and my 'fighting style', a shotgun is a must.
Gatheringsin wrote...
sv51macross wrote...
Gatheringsin wrote...
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Serasade wrote...
A cooked grenade gets any job doneYou got $200 per grenade to register them with BATFE? At least Pennlocke's idea of MP5s isn't too outlandish.
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At which point a Hi-Point or Keltec pistol carbine will work just as well...
Yes but a couple trigger packs and a hacksaw...IIRC the old MP5s were like the old HK41's...All I'm saying.
Meh, never been a fan of full auto. Its only good for suppressive fire and something tells me that zombies won't be scared by that.
I agree there. The Swiss Military actually trains soldiers to use semi-auto instead of full-spray. Besides, with as hard as the 7.62 Commie round hits, you really don't need auto unless your a shit-shot.
Gatheringsin wrote...
sv51macross wrote...
Serasade wrote...
A cooked grenade gets any job doneYou got $200 per grenade to register them with BATFE? At least Pennlocke's idea of MP5s isn't too outlandish.
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At which point a Hi-Point or Keltec pistol carbine will work just as well...
Yes but a couple trigger packs and a hacksaw...IIRC the old MP5s were like the old HK41's...All I'm saying.
Serasade wrote...
A cooked grenade gets any job doneYou got $200 per grenade to register them with BATFE? At least Pennlocke's idea of MP5s isn't too outlandish.
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Gatheringsin wrote...
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The best part is I already have both of these at home.
No shit? Wait, an AR-15 or a M4?
Rovencrone wrote...
sv51macross wrote...
Rovencrone wrote...
primarygundam virtue's gn cannon
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some good ol zombie repellant
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Actually, kinda looking for serious answers here; stuff available to you locally.
In that case i would use this
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Obvious clipart is obvious.
Rovencrone wrote...
primarygundam virtue's gn cannon
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some good ol zombie repellant
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Actually, kinda looking for serious answers here; stuff available to you locally.
Gatheringsin wrote...
Now what kind of zombies are we talking about here? Classic slow moving kind or the newer fast moving ones?Clarified in OP. Fast zombies (Think Majini-type behavior), but they can be injured and/or disabled.
catfish wrote...
The audio book for World War Z was so bland.... the voices had no emotion... Nice reference though, the book wasn't half bad.Oh yeah, and nice guns.
I actually thought Z-Day was colloquial language for the day the dead rose back to life...never heard of or seen/read World War Z.
Self explanatory. For when the zombie waves rise-up and multiply, or when a riot breaks out and the first responders are overwhelmed, how you going to defend yourself? Post pics and descriptions of what will be in your hands and what your backup will be.
(By the way, assume fast zombies that are capable of being injured/disabled)
(Serious answers here please, stuff available to you locally)
Primary:
AK-47 w/ CAA High-End Conversion Kit. (+ Tromix Shark Brake and Vltor Modstock)
-The AK-47's 7.62x39 has alot of stopping power and leaves a very large hole in whatever you fire it at. Compared to 5.56 NATO, which only goes through one wall of a cinderblock, the 7.62x39 round completely obliterates said cinder block. Range might not be as good as a AR-15 but MOA on better-quality guns is 1-2 MOA (good enough for a headshot @ 150yds). Plus the thing will never, ever fail to fire. Even in semi-auto only it's a great survival weapon.
Secondary:
Saiga-12 Shotgun (sportsterized w/ stock/pistol grip)
-Well, who wouldn't face zombies without a good shotgun. and what better than the semi-automatic, box-magazine fed, AK-actioned Saiga-12? Imported with a combined grip/stock to stay a 'sporting weapon' there are lots of parts to get it back-up to combat snuff. Plus, magazines come in 5,8,10,and 12rnd box and 20rnd-drum flavors, so ammo lasts and reloading is stupid fast, good for crowd control. Plus this sucker will take whatever ammo you want to shove into the chamber, shot, slugs, ect.
So this is my Zombie-fighting loadout. $2500 will get me it all tomorrow at my local gun store if I had the cash.
(By the way, assume fast zombies that are capable of being injured/disabled)
(Serious answers here please, stuff available to you locally)
Primary:
AK-47 w/ CAA High-End Conversion Kit. (+ Tromix Shark Brake and Vltor Modstock)
-The AK-47's 7.62x39 has alot of stopping power and leaves a very large hole in whatever you fire it at. Compared to 5.56 NATO, which only goes through one wall of a cinderblock, the 7.62x39 round completely obliterates said cinder block. Range might not be as good as a AR-15 but MOA on better-quality guns is 1-2 MOA (good enough for a headshot @ 150yds). Plus the thing will never, ever fail to fire. Even in semi-auto only it's a great survival weapon.
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Secondary:
Saiga-12 Shotgun (sportsterized w/ stock/pistol grip)
-Well, who wouldn't face zombies without a good shotgun. and what better than the semi-automatic, box-magazine fed, AK-actioned Saiga-12? Imported with a combined grip/stock to stay a 'sporting weapon' there are lots of parts to get it back-up to combat snuff. Plus, magazines come in 5,8,10,and 12rnd box and 20rnd-drum flavors, so ammo lasts and reloading is stupid fast, good for crowd control. Plus this sucker will take whatever ammo you want to shove into the chamber, shot, slugs, ect.
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So this is my Zombie-fighting loadout. $2500 will get me it all tomorrow at my local gun store if I had the cash.
I've thought about that as I aspire to be a published writer (with at least one of my works turned into an anime) and though I'm not apologizing for anything I've said or done here, I've written some smut that, while nowhere near the level of what Frank McCoy got prosecuted over, would still technically be illegal (Miller test, local obscenity, ect). Fortunately, I've got almost all of it down or my name removed.
I wouldn't run for politics though, they disgust me, and I'm far to honest and blunt to be good at it. I more see myself as a local/grassroots activist.
Though like I said, author. And I have fantasies of appearing on the Late Late Show. (I'm gay for Craig :) )
I wouldn't run for politics though, they disgust me, and I'm far to honest and blunt to be good at it. I more see myself as a local/grassroots activist.
Though like I said, author. And I have fantasies of appearing on the Late Late Show. (I'm gay for Craig :) )
I feel the same way about male circumcision as I do about female circumcision. It's horrible, torturous, and disgusting. It has no reasonable medical basis, causes immense pain, and drastically reduces sensitivity. There are cases where it is needed (phimosis) but that is on a case-by-case medical basis.
So chicks, cut the fucking bullshit about it being 'prettier' cut. We don't cut your clits off when your babies (Somalians wait until you begin menstruating, then they do it with broken glass and rusty tin), and even if you get labiaplasty or some other stupid, ridiculous procedure later on to 'look prettier' at least it's with anesthesia. They're our dicks so if you have a problem with them then just fuck off and go back to your fucking colored plastic vibrators and tubs of chock 'o chunk ice cream.
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So chicks, cut the fucking bullshit about it being 'prettier' cut. We don't cut your clits off when your babies (Somalians wait until you begin menstruating, then they do it with broken glass and rusty tin), and even if you get labiaplasty or some other stupid, ridiculous procedure later on to 'look prettier' at least it's with anesthesia. They're our dicks so if you have a problem with them then just fuck off and go back to your fucking colored plastic vibrators and tubs of chock 'o chunk ice cream.
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