Waar Posts

Not all morality is based on one's own opinion, there is such a thing as collective morality, societal morality, and in this case religious morality. Killing someone in self defense is still a morality issue, as I said it was required sometimes but you still ended a life, you should still feel something when you do it.



Oh man, you're never gonna convince me(or anyone for that matter) that killing in Gods name is logical, it's why these countries(aside from Syria which has no formal government) have laws against murder still. You murder someone in the UAE you're going to jail.

Sorry but the debate on "what is life" doesn't apply to the people who are being killed in Syria right now, it's infidels who they don't agree with and foreigners they view as invaders. My stance isn't against killing in general(though I/society still view it as wrong), as I said I believe some of it is required, I simply state Killing in God name illogical and you have yet to present an argument that shows otherwise, the Qur'an(those who interpret it for murder) is wrong just as the Bible(or more specifically the clergy) was 1100-500 years ago.

Enjoy your time off.

Which was my point, based solely on pure logic. A being from the sky telling us to kill our fellow man is illogical. It can be justified sure, but still makes no sense.

You've proven my point, and it's hard to argue this any further, killing is immoral, you're right that their God says its okay, but that's not based on logic, it's based on 3000 year old set of values. "thou shalt not kill" was pretty clear, it wasn't thou shalt not kill unless they don't believe the same as you. They want to believe in a book word for word that written 3000 years ago fine, kill infidels, but that doesn't make it any more morally correct or logical.

It's a point of pride that Christianity ended it's crusade 800 years ago, and the inquisition 500, Islam is simply going through their Crusades, and the rest of the world has to suffer. None of this is to say Christianity is a better religion, or that nonviolent Muslims are also wrong in their following the same book, it is simply a statement that shows Islam is going through something we had to go through before we realized our mistake.

p.s. Read my previous edit if you missed it, it's not in your quote.

edit: You're not even arguing the same thing as me anymore, I didnt say I don't understand why they kill, only that it was morally wrong, and illogical.

no, I have enough trouble coming up with my own.

It is not relative, killing is immoral, end of story. Anyone who believe the taking of another human life isn't morally wrong is trying to conveniently assuage their guilt. Also the use of the word "degeneracy" doesn't accurately describe masturbation, that would be like classifying use of the word penis as public indecency).


edit: I wanted to clarify, I'm not saying killing isn't necessary, nor are the people doing it automatically evil. Killing in self defense is a necessity, so is killing during times of war, capital punishment is also a required form of killing. My point is all of all forms of killing, including those no matter how necessary, is morally wrong.

Sorry, confused two conversations I'm having simultaneously. My point was that a religion that has a morality issue with masturbation but no qualms about murder is illogical. Christianity was wrong during the crusades and spanish inquisition, and Islam is wrong now(not all interpretations of it).

I did say "logic"

Idk, by that logic I would hate everyone because they're not me.

Locking because it's you.

Missing my point, it's bad form and he should avoid doing it anywhere, because it'll end up in IB and get him killed.

While it's not against any rule I'm aware of it is in ridiculously poor taste to ask. IB isn't the place to test out things like this, bad form gets you roasted pretty easily here.

North American internet porn never makes sense.

To be fair I doubt ISIS members are unwilling to lie(if murder is morally okay).

Yeahhh I guess I just dont chance it, there's enough good food with low sugar without risking my feet, or eyesight.

Wont all of what you're saying... kill you?

Ill still argue with just about anyone(seriously, i even argue with Jake sometimes) but I've never really hated any of you. I would say koko and Harmonian are the two people I've had the most reason to hate but it's never really come close to that level. It's the internet, why waste time with that emotion when it's easier to just ignore someone.

Don't get me wrong, I've hated people in real life, I was bullied my freshman year in high school too(before football). I know what it's like to hate, I just don't like the person it made me turn into. My transfer to private school was the best thing to happen to me.

I dunno, I'm sure there's quite a few things you find fun and would have trouble explaining, stuff that I probably don't get. I see a bunch of users acting high and mighty or being cliquish(again, not everyone) and I just feel like mucking it up.

I may be saying things people don't want to hear, but there is an undeniable beauty to the way I say them. Some of my old posts can honestly take someone's breath away.

edit: That's my ego

It did wreak havoc before, threads used to break when they got that long, but that was only a problem for a short time, it has nothing to do with the Fakku of today.

The next question doesn't make sense, doing something because I enjoy it is the only reason I need, regardless of how few others it "contents".



You are grateful, as long as mods are there to help whenever you need/want them, you feel that everything is being run as you believe it should be run and as long as nothing upsets your world(none of this is exclusively you). Anything outside of your expectations is met with resistance, hostility, and a general tone of disrespect(again not specifically you).

Why close the thread? As I said, fun and a reminder that nothing is a right. I dont know why you're trying to get another reason out of me, does fun not make sense?



You witness a fraction of the complaining; a small percentage of posts in feedback, the amount of emails and pm's the staff get a day(mostly Jake) would truly shock you. In comparison, amount of praise we get doesn't amount to much and often get drowned out by all the white noise of complaints. We dont even mind, it's our "job"(very few of us get paid) and we signed up for it. So from time to time when someone acts as if it's their God given right to post anything they want, or to double and triple post the staff feels the need to remind them that it's not. The cafe was simply the worst offenders for the longest time, and to some extent they still are.



No special treatment? The idea that no users except a "cafe" regular should start one of these threads isn't special? To be fair I would say that's very special treatment. I don't even mind letting that go on, but don't for a second think you don't ask for privilege.

See that's where I lose you, "and people will mostly be ok with it, so long as". This forum isnt a democracy, you have no right to make demands or have expectations, anytime we take your advice or do something you want it's a gift, a reward, the staff trying to make this place more fun, but it's not your right. If I wanted to ban the use of the word "the", force everyone to post in green and limit the letter "k" from peoples names all I would need is support from one man and there is nothing anyone could do. Obviously we wont do any of that, because it's stupid and there's no point, but if I choose to lock one thread when it nears 10000 posts because it's fun then that's what will happen.

Not sure I can explain why it's fun, I just do(posts like these help).

Jake should be the only person who can answer that(not sure if any of the other admins have access to accounts), pm him or he might not see the question.