[Anime] Sword Art Online (Postponed to Summer 2012)

I actually agree with you, especially on points 2, 3, and 5. But for some reason I can't seem to stop watching.

A little too exaggerated doncha' think?



You sort of answered your own question there. Those five reasons you listed, they're your opinions. "Us guys" may think differently. Hence, "us guys" watch the show.

If your standards are too high for SAO to reach, then by all means drop the show. As for me, I enjoy the show, so I watch it. Simple as that.

Because for novel, what matter most is that I enjoy reading it. It's the way the story told.



I hope you judge after you read the Twilight novel, not just watch the movie adaptation. And I disagree, very disagree if you said the novel and the adaptation is worse than Twilight respectively.



If you actually have read the novels, Kirito doesn't cheat. Kayaba give him and Asuna a 'present' for beating the game. Yes, it's mainstream, but the way Kawahara Reki storytell us in the novel made it very captivating, at least for me.



I agree a bit on this. But if you really have read all the novels and actually pay attention when reading it, then you should realize that all plotholes is given explanation, which doesn't make it a plothole.



True, the timeline become messed up when you watch it in anime format.



Disagree. Not all characters, in fact only 2 of em. The rest is more than touched, mind you.



I disagree. Plot exists here, even if you remove the sidde stories, and I don't understand why u think there's not.



I completely disagree. You says it's garbage and we just hop on the bandwagon cuz it's cool? Most of the guys here have read the novels way back, either in the formal website or BT. We don't just jump in the bandwagon, we enjoy the novels and we watch the anime to (well, at least me) to compare the ones inside our mind and the ones that got animated. True, the anime is not over-the-top and maybe not what I have inside my mind, but it is enough, at least for me.

And if it's a garbage, none of the guys here would've stick reading it for so long.



Completely agree. In the end, it's whatever rock your boats.

Episode 15

There's one thing I don't get about episode 15

Episode 15:

Episode 15.
Yup. I'm finished here. Gonna drop it while I have the chance.

Episode 15

Don't forget he can smell her whenever he wants too.

i really like suguha. why? from what i recall from the light novel, she has the largest breasts out of all the female characters AND she's a tomboy. with the added fact that she's one of those imouto characters, i'm set.

episode 15

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I hope they take their time producing the ALFheim arc.

The only reason I bothered to read the novels at all was because the worlds the author made had potential and were interesting. Everything else, however, did not. This may be just me, but I sure wouldn't stick with shitty plot, bad characters, overblown melodrama, and every stock cliche possible just because the world itself is interesting. That's like loving a cheesy B horror movie just because it takes place in the beautiful Swedish Alps or because a romance story takes place on Mars.



Actually, no, it didn't answer my question. They are not opinions; they are facts. The show has poor animation, bad storytelling, and plotholes all over the place. These are facts because there is evidence to back them up. In fact, your post does nothing to answer my question.



So you enjoy books that have poor character development, jump around the timeline to the point were the plot becomes a mess, and enjoy plot holes. Then I assume you enjoy most every written piece of work out there.



Yeah, I have. I had to watch youtube earrape videos for a day straight to bleach my brain. I then proceeded to read Hamlet twice in a row to remind me that there still exists talented writers in this world.



See, the question is WHY you found it captivating. That entire scene was a plot hand wave. The plot was clearly going nowhere at that point and the author had written himself into a corner. The hero is in trouble and basically screwed because he is fighting the most powerful guy in the entire game; everyone is cowering around him or dead. His girlfriend is dead. In order to save his burning wreck, the author decided to throw in a last minute plot hand wave (the "super" ability) so he could draw on his impeccably bad writing.




The problem with that is that the author shouldn't be making plotholes in the first place. Going back and changing your mistakes doesn't change the fact they are plot holes. That's called covering your ass. I will not forgive a writer for going back and correcting his mistakes on previously published work. If anything, I bite my thumb at him for letting the plot holes be there in the first place. He is simply a really bad writer.



The problem is that the timeline was messed up to begin with. The author constantly skips around in the timeline, never really fleshing out any of the characters or events. He gives most of the side characters one time appearances, just to invoke some petty nostalgia in later books in the off chance they DO reappear.




More than touched? Really? The most these side characters get is maybe a chapter or two in a single arc, maybe a minor re-visitation at the end of said arc. Its almost as if the author makes these characters so he can have fridge logic and plot hand-waves at the ready in the later arcs. I.E. Kirito is in trouble, and then side character X comes along to save the day. Its a poor writing style that only serves to cover his ass in case he writes himself into yet another corner.



You see, what plot? The story is completely inconsistent in the anime. The Kirito and Asuna in one episode act very in the next. Their intentions, abilities, and pretty much everything about them other than their clothes are constantly changing. If anything, every episode seems to be standalone from the rest of them. The only overarching plot is that there seems to be some goal at the end the characters are striving towards, and that's already vague. We barely ever get to see this "overarching plot" and are bombarded with pointless filler from the beginning. It takes the series EIGHT episodes just to get on track. A 4th of the way through a 24 episode series. That's really poor organization on A-1's part.




For one, yes, the novels ARE garbage. The author can barely write for shit. His love stories have no passion to them; the main heroine falls for the main hero, and all the hero has to do is flash his sword around a bit and spend a bit of time with her. What kind of romantic development is that? Its not. This is further proven by his style of writing; he skips around the plotline all the time, omitting a lot of character development. Doing so allows him to pull random things out of his ass because "it happened inbetween the chapters." Half the characters that Kirito meets are outside of the storytelling, half of the items he gets are outside the storytelling, even his gained abilities are outside the storytelling. The blacksmith, his battle regeneration, etc. etc. etc. The audience knows next to nothing about Kirito other than he is this mysterious but overpowered dude who pulls things out of his hat like a magician (without the entertainment value). The novels are only readable because the world is interesting. You yourself want to be in SAO and have fun, which is why you read the books. Unfortunately you have to take a ride along with shitty characters and terrible storytelling, but in order to continue immersing yourself in the world you convince yourselves that everything in the series is the bee's knees. When I read these novels, I felt like I was reading a bunch of bad fan-fics rather than a group of cohesive and interesting books.



So, the only thing you guys have told me here is that your standards are unbelievably low when it comes to entertainment. Opinions may be opinions, but that doesn't stop you from having poor taste if you are content with such bad literary works, sub-par animation, poor storytelling, and over the top melodrama.

I dropped Accel World

Not being sarcastic here, is there any show u did not drop?

That's a pity, because that means you left yourself out of a great ending to season one(But then, given your hatred of any kind of drama, suspense and plot twists, you wouldn't have liked it anyway.)

Oh for the love of...



Well, might as well see where this one goes....granted, not a giant fan of elf ears, but hell.

Lots. I never know what can trigger it really. One bad episode and I can drop a show in a blink. Just how I roll.



I don't hate any of those things. I just hated Chiyu.