[GE] Antw0n's Guide to Gundam + Gundam General Discussion
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Antw0n
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Knowing each series
To get into Gundam the right way, you need to familiarize yourself with the various series' Gundam has to offer.
The guide will give short descriptions of each series, including ratings and more.
Each series will also have an indication of the type of show it is (Anime, OVA, or Movie) as well as a personal 1 to 5 rating from me.
Note: The 1 to 5 ratings are based on my personal opinion, and other opinions can and will differ.
5 = A MUST-watch. This is what Gundam is all about.
4 = An all around great series.
3 = Good, not great. Worth watching.
2 = Not so great. It's your call if you wanna take the risk.
1 = Just bad. I've probably dropped this before finishing, it was so bad.
Different Universes
There are quite a few different universes in Gundam.
Universal Century - The setting of the original Gundam series. Unless listed otherwise in the series guide, a series takes place in the Universal Century.
Alternate Universes - Certain Gundam series stray from the Universal Century to create a whole new world. I wont list them all off, as usually there's only 1 Gundam series per alternate universe. Series in Alternate Universes are not related to Universal Century, or any other Century.
[size=29]The Series Guide[/h]
The following series take place in Alternate Universes, separate from the Universal Century where the series already listed took place.
What order should I watch?
For the best Gundam experience, most people will say production order.
Otherwise, here's my suggested order for you to watch:
First start with Mobile Suit Gundam. It's the first series, and the best way to get into it.
Afterwords, move on to Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam.
You could also watch Mobile Suit Gundam ZZ after Zeta, as it takes place very shortly after Zeta, but is considered optional.
At this point you could watch Char's Counterattack, for a direct continuation of Amuro and Char's story, or watch Stardust Memory, 08th MS Team, or War in the Pocket, which are all side-stories, for more on the One Year War era.
Other series in the Universal Century timeline don't have much to do with the originals- they can be watched at practically any time.
The Alternate Universes can be watched ANY time- hell, you could start with them if you want. They have nothing to do with the original story aside from the fact that their are Gundams. Typically
I hope this guide has helped.
If you have any questions, or just want to discuss Gundam, PM me on FAKKU or add me on Skype (i_am_antw0n).
I accept all contact requests, but please tell me your FAKKU username with your contact request.

~Quattro Bageena; Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam
[size=29]Antw0n's Guide to Gundam for Newcomers[/h]
Do you want to get into Gundam but have no idea where to start?
Well you've come to the right place.
This guide is to help aspiring fans of Gundam get their start into this fantastic franchise.
Do you want to get into Gundam but have no idea where to start?
Well you've come to the right place.
This guide is to help aspiring fans of Gundam get their start into this fantastic franchise.
Gendu/m/ Chat
I run a Gundam/Mecha Skype group called Gendu/m/ Chat.
The #1 way to get into Gundam is talking to a good group of people who know all about it.
Join in if you're up to it! Just add me, i_am_antw0n on Skype, and ask about Gendu/m/ Chat!
Knowing each series
To get into Gundam the right way, you need to familiarize yourself with the various series' Gundam has to offer.
The guide will give short descriptions of each series, including ratings and more.
Each series will also have an indication of the type of show it is (Anime, OVA, or Movie) as well as a personal 1 to 5 rating from me.
Note: The 1 to 5 ratings are based on my personal opinion, and other opinions can and will differ.
5 = A MUST-watch. This is what Gundam is all about.
4 = An all around great series.
3 = Good, not great. Worth watching.
2 = Not so great. It's your call if you wanna take the risk.
1 = Just bad. I've probably dropped this before finishing, it was so bad.
Different Universes
There are quite a few different universes in Gundam.
Universal Century - The setting of the original Gundam series. Unless listed otherwise in the series guide, a series takes place in the Universal Century.
Alternate Universes - Certain Gundam series stray from the Universal Century to create a whole new world. I wont list them all off, as usually there's only 1 Gundam series per alternate universe. Series in Alternate Universes are not related to Universal Century, or any other Century.
[size=29]The Series Guide[/h]
Spoiler:
The following series take place in Alternate Universes, separate from the Universal Century where the series already listed took place.
Spoiler:
What order should I watch?
For the best Gundam experience, most people will say production order.
Otherwise, here's my suggested order for you to watch:
First start with Mobile Suit Gundam. It's the first series, and the best way to get into it.
Afterwords, move on to Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam.
You could also watch Mobile Suit Gundam ZZ after Zeta, as it takes place very shortly after Zeta, but is considered optional.
At this point you could watch Char's Counterattack, for a direct continuation of Amuro and Char's story, or watch Stardust Memory, 08th MS Team, or War in the Pocket, which are all side-stories, for more on the One Year War era.
Other series in the Universal Century timeline don't have much to do with the originals- they can be watched at practically any time.
The Alternate Universes can be watched ANY time- hell, you could start with them if you want. They have nothing to do with the original story aside from the fact that their are Gundams. Typically
I hope this guide has helped.
If you have any questions, or just want to discuss Gundam, PM me on FAKKU or add me on Skype (i_am_antw0n).
I accept all contact requests, but please tell me your FAKKU username with your contact request.

~Quattro Bageena; Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam
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Good review. I mainly agree with your ratings on this.
However, I would give Char's Counterattack a 5 rather than 4. It was the best Gundam movie ever.
Also, why don't you include Gundam 00's movie? I know it has somewhat poor ending, but you should include that anyway. It's still Gundam, after all.
However, I would give Char's Counterattack a 5 rather than 4. It was the best Gundam movie ever.
Also, why don't you include Gundam 00's movie? I know it has somewhat poor ending, but you should include that anyway. It's still Gundam, after all.
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Antw0n
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zeroniv_legend wrote...
Also, why don't you include Gundam 00's movie? I know it has somewhat poor ending, but you should include that anyway. It's still Gundam, after all.It's pretty much widely regarded as the worst piece of shit to befall Gundam since SEED Destiny.
Figured I shouldn't bother.
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Flaser
OCD Hentai Collector
I'd debate some of your choices:
1) The movie trilogy version of the original Gundam is vastly superior in most ways to the TV series. Tomino could get rid a lot of the crap that Bandai insisted on cramming into his war drama. (Better pacing, less merchandising driven monster suit of the week and more focus on plot and characters, better animation for the final attack on A Baoa Qu).
2) WTF are you doing giving the MS Gundam 0080 OVA only 3 Zakus? It has outstanding animation that aged *really* well, good, realistic character designs on par with anything else in the franchise.
Granted, it's a story not really focused on mobile suits, it's more a character drama and that fact it's about soldiers is sometimes even incidental... it's still one of the best damn war stories ever told, and one that's very much needed given how enamored some fans can be with mayhem and its tools (the mobile suits themselves). I know, I know... it's just fun! Still, I think a sharp reminder of what weapons are really used for is something that you can't be too anvilicious about.
...and when it's mecha time? Darn, do those suits looks mighty fine.
3) Wing by comparison has rather poor production values, it's cast is often rather two-dimensional while the plot can't really seem to make up its mind whether it wants to be a war drama or a political essay.
I'd give it 3 stars at most, although the nostalgia glasses probably make this entry a fondly remembered item on most fan's list.
4) While 0083 is one of my favorite OVAs, it does have its share of problems, the pacing of last handful of episodes could've been better handled and the motivations of the characters for taking the actions they do take could've used more screen time.
No, I'm not one of those fanboi raging on Nina Purpleton's actions... being a Lunarian who was wising up to the fact that the pretty toys she and Anaheim had been building were being used for war and mayhem and being sick of it made her actions make perfect sense, albeit the fact she was never given a chance to articulate her stance hurt her image. The only one who truly got the proper treatment was Anavel Gato (...and Cima Gaharu in her own special short... too bad it wasn't included in the actual OVA!)...
...however what about the *rest* of the cast? Why does Captain Synapse go against his superiors? Why does Kou Uraki keep chasing the rival even when there was no sense in it? We can make educated guesses, and these actions spring naturally from what we know of the characters... too bad that's all we get. Given how the show handled them so far, they really could've done with some more screen time.
1) The movie trilogy version of the original Gundam is vastly superior in most ways to the TV series. Tomino could get rid a lot of the crap that Bandai insisted on cramming into his war drama. (Better pacing, less merchandising driven monster suit of the week and more focus on plot and characters, better animation for the final attack on A Baoa Qu).
2) WTF are you doing giving the MS Gundam 0080 OVA only 3 Zakus? It has outstanding animation that aged *really* well, good, realistic character designs on par with anything else in the franchise.
Granted, it's a story not really focused on mobile suits, it's more a character drama and that fact it's about soldiers is sometimes even incidental... it's still one of the best damn war stories ever told, and one that's very much needed given how enamored some fans can be with mayhem and its tools (the mobile suits themselves). I know, I know... it's just fun! Still, I think a sharp reminder of what weapons are really used for is something that you can't be too anvilicious about.
...and when it's mecha time? Darn, do those suits looks mighty fine.
3) Wing by comparison has rather poor production values, it's cast is often rather two-dimensional while the plot can't really seem to make up its mind whether it wants to be a war drama or a political essay.
I'd give it 3 stars at most, although the nostalgia glasses probably make this entry a fondly remembered item on most fan's list.
4) While 0083 is one of my favorite OVAs, it does have its share of problems, the pacing of last handful of episodes could've been better handled and the motivations of the characters for taking the actions they do take could've used more screen time.
No, I'm not one of those fanboi raging on Nina Purpleton's actions... being a Lunarian who was wising up to the fact that the pretty toys she and Anaheim had been building were being used for war and mayhem and being sick of it made her actions make perfect sense, albeit the fact she was never given a chance to articulate her stance hurt her image. The only one who truly got the proper treatment was Anavel Gato (...and Cima Gaharu in her own special short... too bad it wasn't included in the actual OVA!)...
...however what about the *rest* of the cast? Why does Captain Synapse go against his superiors? Why does Kou Uraki keep chasing the rival even when there was no sense in it? We can make educated guesses, and these actions spring naturally from what we know of the characters... too bad that's all we get. Given how the show handled them so far, they really could've done with some more screen time.
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Antw0n
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Flaser wrote...
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@1- For the sake of the thread, I won't bother with the movie remakes and stuff.
@2- Sorry, it just didn't appeal to me as much as the other Gundams- 3 Zaku's is still worth watching!
@3- I'm not gonna lie. I want to give Wing a 3-Zaku. I gave it a 4 to keep fanboyfags shut-the-fuck-up'd. (SEEDfags can cry for all I care.)
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animefreak_usa
Child of Samael
dude.. wing and fighter are worthless to the point even flaming homos are running away from bishonen cock and shinny jazz fingers.
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Kaimax
Best Master-San
Gundam X, is honestly a 3 Zaku there. Too bad it got cancelled because ratings went down due to sudden change of time slot from 5PM Friday to 6AM Saturday.
Lol Seed, the first was a 3 Zaku for me, but Destiny for me doesn't even deserve one.. lol
Gundam Age, just give it a 1 Zaku, Sunrise themselves has already claimed it was a failure.
Lol Seed, the first was a 3 Zaku for me, but Destiny for me doesn't even deserve one.. lol
Gundam Age, just give it a 1 Zaku, Sunrise themselves has already claimed it was a failure.
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Kaimax wrote...
Gundam Age, just give it a 1 Zaku, Sunrise themselves has already claimed it was a failure.Ahahahahaha, this news made my day lololololololol.
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Kaimax
Best Master-San
zeroniv_legend wrote...
Kaimax wrote...
Gundam Age, just give it a 1 Zaku, Sunrise themselves has already claimed it was a failure.Ahahahahaha, this news made my day lololololololol.
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=426833&show=0
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Kaimax wrote...
zeroniv_legend wrote...
Kaimax wrote...
Gundam Age, just give it a 1 Zaku, Sunrise themselves has already claimed it was a failure.Ahahahahaha, this news made my day lololololololol.
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=426833&show=0
Lol, poor AGE.
Anyway, I guess everyone has its own opinion about which Gundam show is good and which is bad. Here's my Zaku vote on those shows I did watch:
Universal Century
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Other Timelines
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I like Mobile suit Gundam 0080: The war in the pocket, Mobile Suit Gundam: the 08th MS team and Mobile suit victory Gundam (since Victory is the final timeline before the events of turn A Gundam, set many thousands of years in the future. Seriously, who wouldn't like a Gundam series where you can still see the really old bust still fighting Ra Calium fight the neat-o and better performing battleships of Zanscare? That was epic) and for me, they will still warrant a 5 zaku heads rating. I also need to agree to what Mr. Flaser stated about Stardust Memory; it is a bit confusing for what the feddies and the zekes were doing during the last episodes. My comrade in my workplace once stated that Stardust is the worst OVA made but for me, it's just so-so, unless they will do a remake for this OVA and actually straighten up everything and have it less confusing.
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Antw0n
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I dont know about SEED and Destiny since im not really a fan of it. I only like them because of the cool MS' but for 00 only two Zakus? I really think that 00 was great from season 1 to season 2, also the movie although the movie was a bit...uhh... but still it was awesome!
I also liked AGE, at first I thought it wont work but it turned out pretty great but not that great.
I also liked AGE, at first I thought it wont work but it turned out pretty great but not that great.
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Flaser
OCD Hentai Collector
VampyBunny wrote...
I dont know about SEED and Destiny since im not really a fan of it. I only like them because of the cool MS' but for 00 only two Zakus? I really think that 00 was great from season 1 to season 2, also the movie although the movie was a bit...uhh... but still it was awesome!I also liked AGE, at first I thought it wont work but it turned out pretty great but not that great.
The characters were cliche, the Gundams invincible... and everything was eventually solved by GN magic fairy dust and Double-Oh Asspulls. Let's not forget the fujoshi bait Gundam pilots or the otaku pandering mamarry assault (there even was a beach episode!).
Season 1 had pretty much no whatsoever tension until the very end and when things finally started to get interesting (characters actually died!) things were rushed, so people tended to die the very moment when some noteworthy change happened to them.
Season 2 once again failed good character development and got rid of the interesting geo-politics that were the one saving grace of Season 1. Once again, people were killed off (or pretty much pidgeon holed into 1 dimensional caricatures of themselves - like what did Hallelujah *say* for 4/5 of the season?) the moment they could've made interesting choices, this time centered around their struggle on how they should deal with a central authority that has exceeded its mandate.



