[GE] Antw0n's Guide to Gundam + Gundam General Discussion

HURR MY GUNDAM GETS COLORFUL THAT MAKES IT INVINCIBLE DURRRRRRR

Besides the plot-armor I love the Gundams in SEED. Some of the best ever.
It's SEED's story and characters that make it shit.

G Gundam with a top ranking, I expect no less Antw0n, G-Gundam is best gundam.

Antw0n I was talking about Gundam 00.

At least SEED had a well defined plebothium "powering" the special ability with caveats and stuff, a'la Evangelion.

Frankly, I liked SEED, it's not as bad a show as some people make it out to be. It had OK characters, decent plot and initial mecha designs (frankly the Strike was a nice concept with its mission packages) were actually inspired. The whole super-angular aesthetic was also a nice change.

The bad? It didn't have a character comparable to Char Aznable, who was a complex character with varied flaws and motivations. Beside the much maligned Flay Alster most of them were too much of goody too shoes. The other problem was the MC was developed too much into a Jesus figure. Frankly, as long as he had flaws, even Kira "Jesus" Yamato could be entertaining to watch.

SEED Destiny? It's a mess. The plot doesn't hold together, the director just *couldn't* do characterization and finally they side-lined their whole main cast to pander to the fans of the old show. What's infuriating is how much better the whole debacle could've been... if there was a talented director in the seat, like they had for the ONA Stargazer (we learned more about the MC in a single episode and had a better sympathy for him, even though he was a brainwashed zealot then we had during the entire run of Destiny for Shin Asuka).

Those are the story problems. Just like the original Gundam, both SEED, Destiny and later on 00 suffer from the design by committee problems of focusing on merchandising, that is toy like mobile suit designs (as model kit sales are the *only* measure how Sunrise judges its own shows) and later own moe character designs when the otaku merchandising really took off. (00 is as oddity, as for once they try to change tactics when they realized they had a lot of female fans).

08th MS Team is Amazing

...okay...?

-DarkdaemonPK2

This thread was past due. What made you give 08th MS Team only 4 zaku's instead of 5?

It was a great series with a great story, but the very realistic way it's depicted, which clearly makes in the black sheep among other Gundams, just didn't appeal to me as much as the usual Gundam style.

really? i love how realistic it was. guerrilla warfare with gundams = real action

flying around in space, shooting lasers is cool, but ill take bullets. imo

Awesome! I've always wanted to know where and how I should begin to tackle Gundam, but with shows like this it can so intimidating when you just don't know where to start on account of there being so many different spin-offs and series. So thank you for putting this together, Antw0n.

@ my local anime store:
Mobile Suit Gundam Vol. 1 $49.99
Mobile Suit Gundam Vol. 2 $49.99

sry im cheap; using torrents instead
any suggestions on how to watch wuld be coo

What do you mean?

You probably own DVDs already.
What's the best way to watch MSG
for a cheap whore like myself?

Torrenting.

K. ETA 10h39m

guess ill just stream 4 now

Here's a torrent that's 1000x better.
http://bakabt.me/11360-mobile-suit-gundam-0079-english-audio-zx.html

Thanks. ETA only 4 hours. You sure the english dub is any good?

No comment.

English dubbed by Bandai, who brought us Cowboy Bepop,
Haruhi Suzumiya, Eureka Seven, Gurren Lagann, and .hack.
So I suppose that's a "yes".

I couldn't live without Brad Swaile's voice.

I'll take your word for it.
Voice of Light, Nightcrawler, and...
...Quatre Raberba Winner?...

Best last name ever.