Code Geass R2 Epi 25 End

Charles called it the sword. Everyone else referred to it as C.



Marianne and Charles were mushed because their plan stood in the way of the future. When the "gods" were commanded to bring about the future, they wiped out Charles' and Marianne's existence as being in the way of the future.

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In some parts of the first season and I think the second season, C.C. is shown to talk to dead people. Whether or not she's actually talking to them is one thing, but Lelouch is almost definitely dead. And if he isn't I'm going to hunt down the writers for killing an awesome ending.

The Sword of Akasha could be said to be the "weapon" that initiates Ragnarok, while the World of C is the surroundings. So the Sword exists within the World of C as a separate entity. Also, Lelouch did not command the "gods", he wished for a future and the collective unconscious of humanity simply agreed with his wish. This would explain how Lelouch is determined to see Zero Re;quiem to its end, even though it means he'll be hated by everyone and he 'dies'.

@ Klorofolum: CC has never talked with a dead person. Marianne was technically alive the whole time, and they could talk because Marianne's Geass somehow lets them talk. The closest thing we have now to talking to dead people is Charles "talking with Clovis", but we still don't know what exactly he meant then. Also, why would Lelouch being alive ruin the ending? Even if he's alive, the only people who he could possibly talk with who he knows would be CC and Jeremiah. Trying to talk with Zero-Suzaku or Kallen would risk everything that Zero Re;quiem accomplished. Whether he lived or died, he's still effectively 'dead' to the whole world.

Nice speculation!!! I totally agree with you. The first thing I thought after watching the last episode was he isn't dead. LuLu is very similar to a character I've seen on a show somewhere which I can't remember but he was a very smart, sly, and still overall a good fellow. "I wouldn't even give a fingernail for you, not to mention blood" was something I remember that character said. So similarly, I don't think LuLu would ever die for anyone even if he said it out loud.

And someone said he was stabbed in the heart by a long sword. Not true, he was stabbed through the chest, right in the middle. So his chance of survival increased a bit.

There is a saying about beating a dead horse. I don't remember it, but I stand by my opinion that if they bring Lelouch back from the dead in ANY form besides a flashback, I will personally hunt down the writers and kill them slowly and painfully as their family watches, helpless and unable to help. :evil:

"What can you do in death to atone" - Rurouni Kenshin.

Something like that, I honestly don't have a point, I just wanted to stick that in there.

Sounds like more people need to read/watch Rurouni Kenshin.

@ Klorofolun: You must be real finicky and overdramatic if you'd kill the writers over that. There's been far worse.

On the note of Suzaku having a Geass, I quote another anonymous's post on 4chan, where he or she said the following, or at least something along the same lines:



Since both Lelouch and Suzaku had it all planned out, wouldn't it be plausible for them to fake Lelouch's death as well? Given Suzaku's fighting ability and Lelouch's intelligence, the final stab could have been made to a non-fatal part of the body.

Well, you kind of have to know where I'm coming from. Season 1 was fine up until the last 3 episodes, because the whole massacre thing seemed really forced. I couldn't stomach what little of season 2 I saw, but I watched the last episode and it literally knocked me off my feet (seriously. The last time that happened was The Dark Knight). Since Lelouch's death is an integral part of the awesome, I feel it ruins it if he lived.

While you're right that I may have been a little overdramatic, In stand by it. >.>

I see, so you're one of those people ...

Wow, your gone for a day and a lot happen>.< Well, here is my responses to some of the comments done while I was gone.



I've watched the episodes from when Marianne awoken C.C., to when Lelouch asked/wish(Honestly, aren't they both the same thing in the end?) the "Gods"/collective consciousness to keep time going forward, and her Code never un-sealed, or was shown un-sealed. As far as I'm concerned, unless other wise shown, her code is still sealed.

Also, V.V. didn't want to die, he wanted to make a world where lies don't exist anymore along with Charles. Of course this lead him to become probably the biggest hypocrite in the series.



Again, he never commanded the "Gods"/Collective Consciousness to banish Charles and Marianne, watch the episode again, he wished/asked for time to continue to move forward; but as you pointed already, it they were removed because they stood in the way of this wish/request from Lelouch. Now, if you are referring to the end where Lelouch told Charles and Marianne to "BEGONE!", they were already pretty much nothing but an upper torso. This scene, by the way, towards the end of Episode 21.



Now, the last three episodes of season 1 of Code Geass, they were sorta weird, good, but still weird with how they went. And of course the massacre was forced and out of place because Lelouch meant the command as a joke, but since Lelouch's geass leveled up, it was something he couldn't predict/know about. He understood his Geass, but he didn't understand how the Geass system works, and of course C.C. kept quiet about the whole system>.< Season 2 mirrored a lot of parts of Season 1, which in some ways was really lazy and made it look some easy to follow the early steps of it. But Season 2 was really great still, and had a really great plot line in the end.

I somewhat agree with you on the fact that for the viewer at least, Lelouch's "death" would take away a good bit of the complete awesomeness of the ending. But, it doesn't completely ruin it if he popped back up alive somewhere, as the truth is, he could have had the code since episode 21.



You're probably thinking of Darshu (otherwise known as the infamous Dark Schnieder) from the anime show known as "Bastard".



Apparently you don't know Lelouch>.> There is only one person he would have ever died for, and that would have been Nunnally. And, that is probably a good reason why he planned out his death.



Well, technically speaking, there are some people who DO have their hearts right in the middle of their chests, and than there are those who have it where their organs are on the complete opposite side of normal humans. Lelouch COULD have been one of the people with his heart in the middle, but more likely than not, he's probably like every other person. Still, where the sword pierced, if you know a little bit about the human body, would be around a major artery, and that sword was pretty freaking big, so more than not, it hit the major artery, or at least nicked it. And to prove my point, did you see all that blood? It defiantly hit/nicked the major artery in that area. It can take a few minutes or hours for a person to die from a stab wound depending on the wound and how fast the person is treated. But if a person gets a major artery cut/hit, it only takes a few seconds to a few minutes for the person to die of blood loss. Lelouch took at most a minute and half to die, so it definatly hit a major artery.

So for everyone's information, Lelouch DID DIE! But, depending on whether or not he had a code, he could have come back to life. And yes, a person with a code DOES die. They just don't stay down:p

When CC awoke was when the Code was unsealed. We see it when they enter into the World of C and Charles tries to use it with his own Code to bring forth Ragnarok. CC's Code doesn't appear on her forehead while the Code is sealed. The whole reason Marianne went into CC's head was to get CC to unseal the Code because it couldn't be used otherwise.

probably.. this is the most memorable,inspiring,fuckinawesome anime i've ever watched. i'm very greatful that i've watched an anime like this, it'll influence your point of view in life, how you interact with other people and stuffs like that. I just want to thank code geass, thank you for making me say "WHAAATTTT THE FUCKK!????" all the time.

so how many of u guys says there is another R3 or something coming out ?
cuz i am one of those who doesnt want R3 but tis type of ending leaves a big chances for R3 is like over 80% u know ?????

First, definitely the best ending to an anime I've seen in a while. I knew Lulu would more than likely die at the end of the series but wasn't sure how, especially when he comes out at the end with everyone ready to be executed and lookin all super evil pleased (and Nunnally in chains! I was like "you bastard!!!").

But then when the procession stopped, and the car appeared over the horizon, just knew it was Zero (wasn't sure who though), but the way he zipped through the bullets had Suzuku written all over it! It all made sense though once ZR was explained. First proper teary eyed moment for me in the series though, with Nunnally crying over Lulus dieingbody :(

But it all felt right. But I had to rewind and rewatch a couple of times CC in the hay cart! To me it would fit Lulu's character to have fooled everyone, including Suzaku, in order for ZR to work. Although, it is possible, the paper crane symbolised Lulu? Ok, maybe not, 'cos I could see him running off with CC :D

As to an R3? Not sure simply cos of how well the series has been wrapped up. I can see a movie or OVA especially with the uncertainty over whether Lulu is dead or not.

well, hurray for a good ending :D