[Locked] Discussion: Unlicensed Content Removal

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We will continue supporting scanlators in every way possible. I believe that when a legal alternative does not exist, scanlation is necessary to fill in the void and show the publishers/artists that there is demand for their work outside of Japan. I've talked about this before and here is a pretty good post detailing my thoughts. I believe the end goal of scanlation is to live in a world where all material (magazines, books, doujinshi, etc), is published legally in the language you're looking for, at a quality worth paying for, and at the same time it's available in Japan. We are going to build towards that goal and simulpublishing the two biggest hentai magazines in Japan is a first step.

The reality of the situation (specifically with FAKKU as a business) is that we need to remove unlicensed content to secure more publishing deals and ensure that all artists are comfortable working with us. Our current partners are okay turning a blind eye to the unlicensed content on FAKKU, but that will not always be the case.

On a personal note, I am a huge advocate of free speech and as I've always said we will not be censoring any content we publish. We already work with the CBLDF, but keeping unlicensed content on the website prevents us from being able to fully support them. Specifically I want FAKKU to become a corporate sponsor of the Comic Book Legal Defense Fund so we can continue to support those freedoms. P.S. Donate.

It sucks that the majority of content on FAKKU will disappear, but we will be replacing it with new content that won't be available anywhere else. Our end goal will be to eventually bring back all of the unlicensed content officially through FAKKU, and this is the first step towards that.

Here is a rough timeline for content removal, this is not final and will most likely change.

06/2015: Removal of some specific unlicensed publishers and unlicensed controversial content
12/2015: Removal of remaining unlicensed content
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Bladesaber Vanilla Enthusiast
So, to ask the question that's been asked many times over, will there be similarly made free works for the mass public? Or is the entire site going to be on a paid subscription for the mags? And if it's not going to be like that at first, is there any way we can get free hentai from Fakku ever again?
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Bladesaber wrote...
So, to ask the question that's been asked many times over, will there be similarly made free works for the mass public? Or is the entire site going to be on a paid subscription for the mags? And if it's not going to be like that at first, is there any way we can get free hentai from Fakku ever again?


We'll find a way to keep some of the content on FAKKU free, either through random chapters every day or rotating book titles, something. We probably won't launch with the free content, but it's something I've been thinking about trying to solve.
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I don't know if I missed it, but will all of the "controversial" tags eventually come back? I only saw that loli would be coming back, but that isn't what I'm looking for...
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I would also like to know if the other tags would come back as I also have no interest in loli. Also would some/most of the content in those lost tags return?
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luinthoron High Priest of Loli
Primordial wrote...
I would also like to know if the other tags would come back as I also have no interest in loli. Also would some/most of the content in those lost tags return?


There should be nothing stopping the tags from returning, the content however can only return, I guess, if/when it is officially licensed by Fakku.
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luinthoron wrote...
Primordial wrote...
I would also like to know if the other tags would come back as I also have no interest in loli. Also would some/most of the content in those lost tags return?


There should be nothing stopping the tags from returning, the content however can only return, I guess, if/when it is officially licensed by Fakku.


Thanks. :)

Since this is going legit, does anyone know if it would be done in a subscription type way similar to crunchroll or netflix or if we have to buy individual books? I don't mind the former, but I would hate the latter. :/
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Misaki_Chi Fakku Nurse
panda3 wrote...
luinthoron wrote...
Primordial wrote...
I would also like to know if the other tags would come back as I also have no interest in loli. Also would some/most of the content in those lost tags return?


There should be nothing stopping the tags from returning, the content however can only return, I guess, if/when it is officially licensed by Fakku.


Thanks. :)

Since this is going legit, does anyone know if it would be done in a subscription type way similar to crunchroll or netflix or if we have to buy individual books? I don't mind the former, but I would hate the latter. :/


The idea thrown around is it can work one of two ways. If you purchase material such as books off of fakku you can get a trial period on fakku for something like a month. The monthly subscription fee would be something like $7 a month, but that is subject to change. They could also try doing something with 30 day trial periods, bundled monthly deals, etc. Starting out though it will be a little more tight cost-wise till things are more established. The goal is to make it as affordable as possible, while paying enough to get the content and quality fans deserve.
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So until all the removal and changes go through, the tags are going to keep disappearing randomly? Just wondering cause one day they are there, the next not.

Wondering if it would be possible to leave those tags in place but clicking them would give a link or redirect page back to this post. Just so people will stop spamming about it in all the forums
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Can you give a clear answer as to why doujinshi is being removed when it doesn't harm the industry at all? This isn't a case about them being unlicensed but harmful. I honestly do not get why they are being removed.
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Joker500 wrote...
Can you give a clear answer as to why doujinshi is being removed when it doesn't harm the industry at all? This isn't a case about them being unlicensed but harmful. I honestly do not get why they are being removed.


Removing doujinshi is more of a morale decision than a legal one. There will come a point where FAKKU should only have licensed content. Thankfully, we'll be bringing a lot of legal doujinshi to the website (both free and paid), the first two are Cure Assort and Bosshi's XXX MiX.
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Hey Jacob just an fyi about donating to the CBLDF, not only can you do it directly, but you can also donate just from shopping off Amazon using Amazon Smile.

https://smile.amazon.com/

Just sign in through Amazon Smile, select CBLDF as your charity, and then shop.
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wavedashh FAKKU Editor
Joker500 wrote...
Can you give a clear answer as to why doujinshi is being removed when it doesn't harm the industry at all?


Straw man fallacy

Doujinshi scanning and scanlation only sidesteps the harm of piracy when there is no legal alternative. And that's exactly what FAKKU is doing.
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wavedashh wrote...
Joker500 wrote...
Can you give a clear answer as to why doujinshi is being removed when it doesn't harm the industry at all?


Straw man fallacy

Doujinshi scanning and scanlation only sidesteps the harm of piracy when there is no legal alternative. And that's exactly what FAKKU is doing.


I think you need to learn what a straw man fallacy is. I didn't misrepresent any argument. Not to mention the "harm" that piracy causes is completely overblown. Companies consider everything downloaded a lost sale when most of the time people wouldn't buy the products in the first place. That is completely irrelevant to this discussion anyway since doujins of already established series aren't going to harm anything. I was referring to something like Naruto doujins when I made my original post.
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Jacob wrote...
Joker500 wrote...
Can you give a clear answer as to why doujinshi is being removed when it doesn't harm the industry at all? This isn't a case about them being unlicensed but harmful. I honestly do not get why they are being removed.


Removing doujinshi is more of a morale decision than a legal one. There will come a point where FAKKU should only have licensed content. Thankfully, we'll be bringing a lot of legal doujinshi to the website (both free and paid), the first two are Cure Assort and Bosshi's XXX MiX.


Hi, Sorry is there a way to recommend Doujins we want licensed? T_T MTSP's fate stay night ones... Cyclones Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Nanoha, as well as AquaDrop (Mikami Mika) Oyasumi Sex
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zecknor wrote...
Jacob wrote...
Joker500 wrote...
Can you give a clear answer as to why doujinshi is being removed when it doesn't harm the industry at all? This isn't a case about them being unlicensed but harmful. I honestly do not get why they are being removed.


Removing doujinshi is more of a morale decision than a legal one. There will come a point where FAKKU should only have licensed content. Thankfully, we'll be bringing a lot of legal doujinshi to the website (both free and paid), the first two are Cure Assort and Bosshi's XXX MiX.


Hi, Sorry is there a way to recommend Doujins we want licensed? T_T MTSP's fate stay night ones... Cyclones Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Nanoha, as well as AquaDrop (Mikami Mika) Oyasumi Sex


Only an original work doujin would be allowed by what Jacob is saying.
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wavedashh FAKKU Editor
Joker500 wrote...
wavedashh wrote...
Joker500 wrote...
Can you give a clear answer as to why doujinshi is being removed when it doesn't harm the industry at all?


Straw man fallacy

Doujinshi scanning and scanlation only sidesteps the harm of piracy when there is no legal alternative. And that's exactly what FAKKU is doing.


I think you need to learn what a straw man fallacy is. I didn't misrepresent any argument. Not to mention the "harm" that piracy causes is completely overblown. Companies consider everything downloaded a lost sale when most of the time people wouldn't buy the products in the first place. That is completely irrelevant to this discussion anyway since doujins of already established series aren't going to harm anything. I was referring to something like Naruto doujins when I made my original post.


"Most of the time people wouldn't buy the products" does not equate to "everyone wouldn't buy the products." And it turns out that every sale matters in such a small industry.

The current existence of pirated Naruto doujinshi both devalues a future licensed version of that doujinshi and also decreases the chance of getting a licensed version of that doujinshi.
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wavedashh wrote...
Joker500 wrote...
wavedashh wrote...
Joker500 wrote...
Can you give a clear answer as to why doujinshi is being removed when it doesn't harm the industry at all?


Straw man fallacy

Doujinshi scanning and scanlation only sidesteps the harm of piracy when there is no legal alternative. And that's exactly what FAKKU is doing.


I think you need to learn what a straw man fallacy is. I didn't misrepresent any argument. Not to mention the "harm" that piracy causes is completely overblown. Companies consider everything downloaded a lost sale when most of the time people wouldn't buy the products in the first place. That is completely irrelevant to this discussion anyway since doujins of already established series aren't going to harm anything. I was referring to something like Naruto doujins when I made my original post.


"Most of the time people wouldn't buy the products" does not equate to "everyone wouldn't buy the products." And it turns out that every sale matters in such a small industry.

The current existence of pirated Naruto doujinshi both devalues a future licensed version of that doujinshi and also decreases the chance of getting a licensed version of that doujinshi.


Doujinshi just means self published. A doujinshi that's based off a series will never get a license because the original license already belongs to the original creators of those characters. They make a profit from any sales they make at a con or elsewhere for those particular doujinshis but they will never get them licensed. Plus I also didn't say "everyone". I was showing how piracy doesn't actually harm the industry like you were implying in your original post. Another example is how people have pirated something then later bought it.
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Well this sucks nice things you are doing but im going to have to find a new site then if you are removing everything that's scanlated....ill check back once and a while but fakku kinda just died in my book. I may pick up your books from time to time...
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Midnight Barber I am stuck in a well.
Is this that big announcement that you were going on about a few weeks ago Jacob or was that something else because I haven't seen anything in the last book posts about it.