[Locked] Discussion: Unlicensed Content Removal

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Arbiterstoe wrote...
Damn I wish I heard about this earlier because a quarter of my favorites are now gone to the void. I hope my memory serves so I make a list to look at for other sites so I can still enjoy my favorites. :(


Same at least Jacob could tell beforehand about removal so we could save the names of our favorites.
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Well i dont understand i just want to keep watching my vanilla and osanajami(childhoodfriend) hentai mangas . Always waiting new uploads every day that also includes mangas from my favourites artists and any artist of course something about this is going to change?
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Jacob, you really are failing all of your fans here. We have asked for clarity and have gotten none. Most of us are planning on leaving the site and yet you post NOTHING to help us not do that. Really, most of us will leave because we feel you are now a sell out.
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Nialvr90 wrote...
Jacob, you really are failing all of your fans here. We have asked for clarity and have gotten none. Most of us are planning on leaving the site and yet you post NOTHING to help us not do that. Really, most of us will leave because we feel you are now a sell out.


What have I not been clear about?
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Jacob wrote...
Nialvr90 wrote...
Jacob, you really are failing all of your fans here. We have asked for clarity and have gotten none. Most of us are planning on leaving the site and yet you post NOTHING to help us not do that. Really, most of us will leave because we feel you are now a sell out.


What have I not been clear about?


Honestly? Most of us had no idea content was being removed. There was no front page post before shit started going down. Even when we got one its like, OH HEY WE ARE REMOVING ALL THE STUFF YOU LOVE SO YOU CAN PAY. I have frequented this site for 6 years, and given it loads of my time and plenty of my money. And yet, all the content I came here for is being removed. The big steps you have for the site includes removing most of the reasons people came here.
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WitnessX Starship Captain
Another question: what controversial content will be removed? I get incest and loli, but I heard that the animal/cat ears tag was also going away for a while. That's a staple of hentai, I have a hard time believing that artists would be uneasy about it.
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animefreak_usa Child of Samael
WitnessX wrote...
Another question: what controversial content will be removed? I get incest and loli, but I heard that the animal/cat ears tag was also going away for a while. That's a staple of hentai, I have a hard time believing that artists would be uneasy about it.


Only unlicensed content is being removed. X-Eros magazine is full of loli and incest content. If jacob was going to block the loli and incest content he would of never did hanafuda nor get x-eros to be simulcasted.
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Jacob wrote...
Nialvr90 wrote...
Jacob, you really are failing all of your fans here. We have asked for clarity and have gotten none. Most of us are planning on leaving the site and yet you post NOTHING to help us not do that. Really, most of us will leave because we feel you are now a sell out.


What have I not been clear about?


You can start with making it clear, somewhere, prominently, what happened to the missing tags (that it's a bug that isn't getting fixed anytime soon) and assure people that

A) they'll be back

B) they'll still get content (very unlikely at this point, because licensed works is not where most of the content for the controversial tags comes from, and you can easily see this in most any magazine you plan to currently publish where content is skewed heavily towards a very specific genre: big boobs and vanilla)

Because it's kinda sad that this post is the only time the tags were addressed, which is buried in a different topic, on a late page, not from you and not an announcement.
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Whats going to happen with the groups/translators using a fakku.net adress like Phoenix Syndicate or CGrascal? Would going legit affect there place here at all?
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wavedashh FAKKU Editor
ImAGuest wrote...
wavedashh wrote...
ImAGuest wrote...
wavedashh wrote...
I know of >>>no evidence that piracy does not harm<<< the doujinshi industry. If there is, show me the data.

wave, as far as I know everyone is innocent until proved guilty.


There is no innocent or guilty in statistics. Data either exists or doesn't exist.

???


I think you under the impression that I think piracy is strictly harmful (though I'm not sure because of a reason to be disclosed at a later sentence). If you look back, you would see that I specifically said that piracy can be beneficial. Honestly, I don't care to read your giant wall of text because everything specifically relevant here has already been covered, as this is actually a very simple situation.

1. Piracy does not harm the creator if the consumer cannot purchase the product. Basically, people who cannot physically purchase the product, due to reasons such as region locking or the product not actually existing (scanlation).

2. Piracy can harm the creator if the consumer can purchase the product. Examples: most things that can be pirated.
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WitnessX wrote...
Another question: what controversial content will be removed? I get incest and loli, but I heard that the animal/cat ears tag was also going away for a while. That's a staple of hentai, I have a hard time believing that artists would be uneasy about it.

I think a common misconception here is that no one has a problem with the controversial content. The issue here is that the publishers/artists have a problem with Fakku hosting unlicensed content. Fakku is just removing the "controversial" labelled content first for whatever reason (maybe it's easier coding-wise).

To be honest, if Jacob just said "We're going to start removing content" and didn't say specifically "controversial content", some drama may have been avoided.
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WitnessX Starship Captain
animefreak_usa wrote...
WitnessX wrote...
Another question: what controversial content will be removed? I get incest and loli, but I heard that the animal/cat ears tag was also going away for a while. That's a staple of hentai, I have a hard time believing that artists would be uneasy about it.


Only unlicensed content is being removed. X-Eros magazine is full of loli and incest content. If jacob was going to block the loli and incest content he would of never did hanafuda nor get x-eros to be simulcasted.


Ah, okay.
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Jacob wrote...
Nialvr90 wrote...
Jacob, you really are failing all of your fans here. We have asked for clarity and have gotten none. Most of us are planning on leaving the site and yet you post NOTHING to help us not do that. Really, most of us will leave because we feel you are now a sell out.


What have I not been clear about?


I honestly thought you were avoiding certain question topics altogether on purpose, seeing as you'd cherry pick easy to answer questions that can be answered with "Trust me, the future is bright!" and answers to paywall questions. ESPECIALLY given the fact that your refusal to answer certain questions was pointed out numerous times by numerous people, particularly in the last thread, before it was split off. You didn't even respond to those who called you out on it. The questions, if answered, were answered, not by you, but by people who defended you and your cause. While that's not bad, I would've really loved a straight answer from you. You're a very slippery person when it comes to questions.

But now that you're asking, I have my own questions. I apologize if these has already been answered before.

Why were "controversial" tags removed first? It was very, VERY shifty in my eyes when you first put it on as mandatory if a person did not have an account. Rather, people should have had to make an account to BLOCK tags, not UNBLOCK them. It felt to me that you prioritized the convenience of people who hated the controversial content over those who were fine with it.
Buuuuut I'm getting carried away here. I made an account, I turned on the options, I got over it. But this.... This is hard to forgive. ESPECIALLY with your weak justifications. You could have EASILY warned us. And why start with controversial content to begin with? Of all the tags.... You didn't even choose one to begin, you wiped it ALL out. I'd like a straight, detailed explanation so I don't have to believe you were okay with punching my favorite tags out for the masses.

Second, you never explained, not ONCE (please provide a quote if I'm mistaken, if so I'm very sorry) to anyone on the forums why there was no warning. Every reply I've seen by you has been about Fakku's amazing future and how you'll try your best to help those without enough money to pay(I was actually very pleased to hear this bit). I would like a clear, lengthy explanation to your unwillingness to consider Fakku's daily visitors and how they'd take the news.

While I'm very happy for the advancements of Fakku, I can't just meekly sit back while my favorite and most frequented site takes away my favorite tags and doujins, especially with no clear explanations or justifications. I really want to think the best of Fakku, honestly. This is just hard to take and you're not lubing it up very nicely with your lacking justifications.

(Sorry for this tank of a conment, I just had a lot to say after reading so many pages of comments qq)
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wavedashh wrote...
Honestly, I don't care to read your giant wall of text because everything specifically relevant here has already been covered, as this is actually a very simple situation.

If you don't care to read -wall of text or not- then you don't care to discute thing, but just to impose your opinion.
Now, since it seem someone taked a liking at downvoting my rep in this discussion, and since you don't want to discute in the first place, I'll close my side here and say just this "There isn't no deaf like the one that don't want to hear"
GG WP (yeah, right)
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This has gotten out of hand. After many years of coming here this will be my last visit. Shame jacob is removing all tags I care about .
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How can you even dream of removing the loli tag, a staple of Japan anime/manga culture?

Fuck you Mr. Jacob.
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TrixieTang Magical NTR Princess
Ramaladni wrote...
How can you even dream of removing the loli tag, a staple of Japan anime/manga culture?

Fuck you Mr. Jacob.


The tags weren't removed as censorship, that's very easy to see when you realize that some of the books that Fakku has/will publish contain things like loli and Jacob has repeatedly voiced his support for such content. The issue here is that Fakku can't continue to support piracy of authors' works if they're going to be working with the authors and publishers themselves.

If you just want your unlicensed loli downloads then obviously Fakku isn't the site for that any longer. People hate change, and obviously Fakku has changed since the Wani deal. If you don't like it then perhaps you'd be better off finding another site. But some of us here actually like that we're getting official, English-translated, fully-uncensored Wani content out of this.
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Nialvr90 wrote...
Jacob wrote...
Nialvr90 wrote...
Jacob, you really are failing all of your fans here. We have asked for clarity and have gotten none. Most of us are planning on leaving the site and yet you post NOTHING to help us not do that. Really, most of us will leave because we feel you are now a sell out.


What have I not been clear about?


Honestly? Most of us had no idea content was being removed. There was no front page post before shit started going down. Even when we got one its like, OH HEY WE ARE REMOVING ALL THE STUFF YOU LOVE SO YOU CAN PAY. I have frequented this site for 6 years, and given it loads of my time and plenty of my money. And yet, all the content I came here for is being removed. The big steps you have for the site includes removing most of the reasons people came here.


That's a valid criticism, this topic was actually meant to serve as the first official announcement about removing unlicensed content. I should have made our intentions more obvious a little earlier.

dark494 wrote...
Jacob wrote...
Nialvr90 wrote...
Jacob, you really are failing all of your fans here. We have asked for clarity and have gotten none. Most of us are planning on leaving the site and yet you post NOTHING to help us not do that. Really, most of us will leave because we feel you are now a sell out.


What have I not been clear about?


You can start with making it clear, somewhere, prominently, what happened to the missing tags (that it's a bug that isn't getting fixed anytime soon) and assure people that

A) they'll be back

B) they'll still get content (very unlikely at this point, because licensed works is not where most of the content for the controversial tags comes from, and you can easily see this in most any magazine you plan to currently publish where content is skewed heavily towards a very specific genre: big boobs and vanilla)

Because it's kinda sad that this post is the only time the tags were addressed, which is buried in a different topic, on a late page, not from you and not an announcement.


Missing tags are related to unlicensed controversial content being removed. Because all of the content under those tags is no longer available, the tags have been hidden. The removal of tags has no impact on the content we will be publishing. Also X-Eros has a huge variety of content, I've seen you say it's only "big breasted women and vanilla" but you couldn't be more wrong.

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deadsx wrote...
Whats going to happen with the groups/translators using a fakku.net adress like Phoenix Syndicate or CGrascal? Would going legit affect there place here at all?


Blogs we host are not impacted by events that happen on the main site. Each blog operates as its own entity.

adventality wrote...
Jacob wrote...
Nialvr90 wrote...
Jacob, you really are failing all of your fans here. We have asked for clarity and have gotten none. Most of us are planning on leaving the site and yet you post NOTHING to help us not do that. Really, most of us will leave because we feel you are now a sell out.


What have I not been clear about?


I honestly thought you were avoiding certain question topics altogether on purpose, seeing as you'd cherry pick easy to answer questions that can be answered with "Trust me, the future is bright!" and answers to paywall questions. ESPECIALLY given the fact that your refusal to answer certain questions was pointed out numerous times by numerous people, particularly in the last thread, before it was split off. You didn't even respond to those who called you out on it. The questions, if answered, were answered, not by you, but by people who defended you and your cause. While that's not bad, I would've really loved a straight answer from you. You're a very slippery person when it comes to questions.

But now that you're asking, I have my own questions. I apologize if these has already been answered before.

Why were "controversial" tags removed first? It was very, VERY shifty in my eyes when you first put it on as mandatory if a person did not have an account. Rather, people should have had to make an account to BLOCK tags, not UNBLOCK them. It felt to me that you prioritized the convenience of people who hated the controversial content over those who were fine with it.
Buuuuut I'm getting carried away here. I made an account, I turned on the options, I got over it. But this.... This is hard to forgive. ESPECIALLY with your weak justifications. You could have EASILY warned us. And why start with controversial content to begin with? Of all the tags.... You didn't even choose one to begin, you wiped it ALL out. I'd like a straight, detailed explanation so I don't have to believe you were okay with punching my favorite tags out for the masses.

Second, you never explained, not ONCE (please provide a quote if I'm mistaken, if so I'm very sorry) to anyone on the forums why there was no warning. Every reply I've seen by you has been about Fakku's amazing future and how you'll try your best to help those without enough money to pay(I was actually very pleased to hear this bit). I would like a clear, lengthy explanation to your unwillingness to consider Fakku's daily visitors and how they'd take the news.

While I'm very happy for the advancements of Fakku, I can't just meekly sit back while my favorite and most frequented site takes away my favorite tags and doujins, especially with no clear explanations or justifications. I really want to think the best of Fakku, honestly. This is just hard to take and you're not lubing it up very nicely with your lacking justifications.

(Sorry for this tank of a conment, I just had a lot to say after reading so many pages of comments qq)


I tend to ignore questions that have already been answered, though I realize it's not easy to track down those answers since they're not all in one place. I also ignore any posts like "LOL WHY WOULD I PAY FOR PORN", I have no problem with those users leaving the website for good. I've made multiple public statements about this over the past few months, my goal is for all hentai content to have an official uncensored release. Everything.

Controversial tags were removed first because they were already sectioned off from the rest of the content. It's not really relevant that they were removed since all unlicensed content is being removed regardless, the controversial content is the easiest to justify removing first since they actually cause us headaches when talking with financial institutions/governments.
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TrixieTang Magical NTR Princess
Jacob wrote...
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EZ M☆NEY
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TrixieTang wrote...
Jacob wrote...
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EZ M☆NEY


CRIMSON SUSPENDER SKIRT.

I am legitimately considering talking with Gomennasai about making that into a real shirt.