[Locked] Discussion: Unlicensed Content Removal

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Mr.Everwood will see you now ;)
I guess if you have anything unlicensed in your favourites now is the time to save them on your computer. Well those days of pirating were fun but now it's time to make way for a brighter future, one were FAKKU is no longer in the dark.
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Is an export tool being made for removed titles? I've forgotten a few names in my favourites that were removed. Read this in another thread but wasn't sure if it was true
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Now, since all of the good stuff has been purged, I don't see any reason for staying on this site any longer.

RIP in piss, FAKKU, you have officially gone to the shitters.

I will leave this place and never come back.
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Fucklicious wrote...
Now, since all of the good stuff has been purged, I don't see any reason for staying on this site any longer.

RIP in piss, FAKKU, you have officially gone to the shitters.

I will leave this place and never come back.

Stay salty :)
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Tsujoi Social Media Manager
kimjongilliam wrote...
Is an export tool being made for removed titles? I've forgotten a few names in my favourites that were removed. Read this in another thread but wasn't sure if it was true

It's being worked on.
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Roqr wrote...
I have to ask what material is really counted as questionable when we are dealing with hentai to begin with.

How the heck is "Netorare" okay, but "Monstergirl" wasn't?
Oh wait, thats because there are official books with it! Silly me...
Diffrent things are subjectivly better/worse to diffrent people.
It should be fairly easy to add an advanced option that needs to be activated manually and consented too in the profil to view such material.


I'd rather just a flat blacklist for me, if I'm not interested, I don't want to see it unless it has a favorited tag as well as a blacklisted, then I can just follow the comments to see if it's worth going in.

I'd also like digital purchase by chapter or purchase -x chapters since I think a lot of people got burned with purchases before they were tagging individual chapters with content they didn't like enough to say, "I regret buying this." Which I think should be raised up the flagpole, I also really like the idea of pay-as-you-go since I know people on a budget will be more interested in work by certain artists than paying a subscription for things they only may like. Something like $2-$4 a chapter, which sounds like a lot, but if you think they are spending time translating the entire magazine and you only want one, single, chapter per say, it keeps them from going broke giving us content.

Maybe bulk deals, but ngl guys Jacob and the rest probably have considered this, but it'll have to wait until they recoup some of the expenses they're burning through right now to make this magazine and subscription launch worth the loss in userbase + potential revenue those lost users may have given.

So, no more doujinshi. I know that's unavoidable because of the horrible legality expenses to license it(The creator, the manga publisher, the animation studio, and the worldwide distributors would all get a cut, plus more people.), but man. At least waiting till December will give us time to get it downloaded. I'm also sitting here thinking about the money and if it would be worth it as a business to consider at some point. I think people would pay a lot of for it, but is it just worth all the royalties FAKKU! will have to dish out just to get it to us?
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Just asking Jacob or anyone else that can answer this, why do you feel the need to remove all of this content? You've had this type of content for years and years so why now? Also, why do you feel the need to switch over to a subscription based site rather than keeping it free? Again, you've had it this way for years and years now. I just want to know so that way I could try to understand why you're doing all of this. If I were you, I would consider doing this but I would choose not to in the end; you would lose a lot of your fan-base and you already have books out that are making you money. I get that money is good but greed is bad; if you truly are doing this for the money then that's a shame.*
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Hanayome Ultimate Laziness
Momo0000 wrote...
Just asking Jacob or anyone else that can answer this, why do you feel the need to remove all of this content? You've had this type of content for years and years so why now? Also, why do you feel the need to switch over to a subscription based site rather than keeping it free? Again, you've had it this way for years and years now. I just want to know so that way I could try to understand why you're doing all of this. If I were you, I would consider doing this but I would choose not to in the end; you would lose a lot of your fan-base and you already have books out that are making you money. I get that money is good but greed is bad; if you truly are doing this for the money then shame on you.

They have to in order to keep their license to officially sell the books and get other publishers to feel comfortable working with Jacob.
Jacob will probably make some chapters free after a few months so there probably won't be many free chapters at the beginning, you have to remember that Wani wants their money too.
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'kay then.
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YQII FAKKU Translator
the_robo258 wrote...
Would parody doujins from artists who have worked with Wani or other licensed companies get removed?

If we don't have the rights to publish something, it'll be removed. That's all that matters.

the_robo258 wrote...

Will this mean that Fakku will no longer support translation groups and force the translation groups to go away?

Is Fakku going to be seeking out other websites to get them to remove their unlicensed content or face a lawsuit?

We're not going after scanlation groups, even if we're working on the same thing. We don't want to kills piracy by shutting down the competition, since others have shown that that approach hasn't been very successful in the past. Rather, we want to offer a better service so that people willingly chose our releases over pirated ones.

the_robo258 wrote...
Is Fakku going to prioritize getting newer content out first or will Fakku try to aim to get older fan favorites out?

Not entirely sure what your question is here, but I think I've answered it either way; we will remove all unlicensed content before the end of the year, and we won't try to shut down scanlation groups.

the_robo258 wrote...
Does Fakku have any plans or high priorities on getting classic doujins back that are removed as of now? (Mega Milk, for example.)

To some extent. There is one thing that I'd definitely consider a FAKKU classic that we're currently working on.

the_robo258 wrote...
If one were to subscribe and get content by buying it, but later choose to not renew their subscription will they still have acess to the stuff they bought or other licensed stuff that was free for them when they subscribe?

If you buy something, you'll always have access to it. A subscription service would most likely work the way you'd expect it to, where you get access to content as long as you're subscribed. One area that could get confusing would be if you had to have a subscription to be able to buy something, but a) I don't think we'll have such a feature, and b) in that case you'd probably get to keep it since you bought it.

the_robo258 wrote...
Is Fakku going to be a monthly/yearly subscribtion or a one time payment for subscription and then no more fees to worry about for digital content?

We haven't decided on this yet. Books will likely remain the same with you buying the book and then not having to pay for it again in the future. If we introduce a subscription model, it'd be recurring payments for continued access to new content.

the_robo258 wrote...
Does fakku have simular plans for Doijin games too, in the future? (I feel many get unnoticed due to the difficulty of translating them.)

Games, anime, figurines, etc. We would like to offer you everything imaginable, and magazines are the first step towards achieving that goal.


abysmaldream wrote...
I'd also like digital purchase by chapter or purchase -x chapters

I understand the point you're making, but we don't think it's a good way to go about it.

As an example, look at two artists from X-Eros #30: DISTANCE and Ayane. DISTANCE is a popular artist with multiple books released and a well-established fanbase. Ayane, on the other hand, has has their first ever publication in that issue. Nondiscriminatory localization of every story by every artist in these publications is a huge deal to us, and we never want to have to approach an artist and say, "why don't you try being more like DISTANCE?"

The same goes for genres. Say only .05% want to buy the NTR stories in a publication. That puts us in a tough spot where we either have to continue to do those stories and lose money while doing so, or just skip them in the future. We don't want to be forced to censor our releases after making a point about shunning censorship.

Finally, I don't think the people buying individual chapters will get a fair deal. Let's use a typical $10 book with 10 chapters and your suggestion of $2-4 per chapter as an example. If it was the lower figure of $2, there would be no reason not to buy per-chapter, since it would come out to $10 regardless, and this would lead to the same issues as above. That's not a viable option, and if we instead charged $4 per chapter, you could buy a book and hate 70% of it, and still get a better deal by buying the book in its entirety ($10 vs. $12). I don't think aiming for a happy medium of $3 would solve this either.

abysmaldream wrote...
So, no more doujinshi.

There will be doujinshi. Doing something like simulpublishing alongside major events like Comiket would be amazing, but that's a huge project that would come later on. It would involve reaching out to individual artists, but at least in the meantime, we can some smaller collaborations with artists who we already have an established relation with, like Bosshi.
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abysmaldream wrote...

I'd rather just a flat blacklist for me, if I'm not interested, I don't want to see it unless it has a favorited tag as well as a blacklisted, then I can just follow the comments to see if it's worth going in.


Sounds pretty good to be honest.

My main concern in all of this is really just "Will they be able to produce enough content to be worth the "per month cost" model they seem keen on implementing.

I endorse the main idea of getting more licensed material translated and being able to buy the stuff I like to support the artist.
But from what I can see we are only getting the big names, the indies/doujinshis are left out. DLsite offers alot of doujinshi works for sale, so it shouldn't be impossible to fix all of this legal hassel they keep refering too.
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animefreak_usa Child of Samael
Roqr wrote...
abysmaldream wrote...

I'd rather just a flat blacklist for me, if I'm not interested, I don't want to see it unless it has a favorited tag as well as a blacklisted, then I can just follow the comments to see if it's worth going in.


Sounds pretty good to be honest.

My main concern in all of this is really just "Will they be able to produce enough content to be worth the "per month cost" model they seem keen on implementing.

I endorse the main idea of getting more licensed material translated and being able to buy the stuff I like to support the artist.
But from what I can see we are only getting the big names, the indies/doujinshis are left out. DLsite offers alot of doujinshi works for sale, so it shouldn't be impossible to fix all of this legal hassel they keep refering too.

40 chapters a month isn't enough? Plus there anyways new artists and young artists in a good part of the monthly mags on avg.
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It's just not the same. I started going to fakku almost 3 years ago. Made an account over a year ago. And for that time, I would chose no other exceptions to read my porn. But now, my favorites, forced and ahegao, barely exist anymore. Sure not the most moral but we all go on this site to read about people in manga having sex. Not a whole lot of room to judge. I know you have to do things and move with the times, I just think this was the wrong choice to make. I hope things can go back someday. But until then I don't think this is the site for me anymore.
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I remember a time when fakku was a promised land of hentai. All the other hentai sites required payment or were full of viruses. But not anymore. This is bullshit and you know it Jacob. This is a disgrace to the fakku name.
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Jacob wrote...
WitnessX wrote...
Okay, let me see if I have this straight: Any original doujinshi done by artists Fakku works with (and obviously original manga) are fine, but we're gonna lose the parody doujinshi (stuff for series that already exist, e.g. Bakemonogatari, Infinite Stratos, Is It Wrong to Try and Pick Up Girls In A Dungeon)?

Not gonna lie, that's a downer.


It's unfortunate, but that is what will eventually happen before the end of the year.


That's pretty much the final nail in the coffin. Almost anything I would care to read is stuff from existing series, content based on existing works and series. Everything labed "Series: Original Work" just doesn't cut it. I have little interest in original one-shots that nobody can honestly relate to or be a fan of since it's based on nothing. That's the easiest way to kill off your entire userbase, guarantee them that they absolutely will not get any content they care about. GG Fakku.

Don't be hypocrites defending this when you're the target audience most affected by this particular change. Many of you come here, many exclusively even, to see hentai from things like SAO, Evangelion, Kantai Collection, High School DxD, whatever anime that you're watching or is currently airing/popular, etc. This is not a place for that anymore.
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I forgot to comment this in response to Hanayome or just anyone else who can answer this. But what's so bad with not teaming up with other people and staying free/going back to not selling books but instead just posting them on the website the same way others do? I loved FAKKU! for the reason that it carried certain tags but now those have been removed. Anyways, I just want to know the reason as to why making the website subscription based and occasionally having small portions of free content would better the website more than keeping everything free and staying the same.
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Hanayome Ultimate Laziness
Momo0000 wrote...
I forgot to comment this in response to Hanayome or just anyone else who can answer this. But what's so bad with not teaming up with other people and staying free/going back to not selling books but instead just posting them on the website the same way others do? I loved FAKKU! for the reason that it carried certain tags but now those have been removed. Anyways, I just want to know the reason as to why making the website subscription based and occasionally having small portions of free content would better the website more than keeping everything free and staying the same.

It's not that it's bad per-say but Jacob has stated that his end goal was always to bring a legal means to purchasing and supporting the hentai industry.
The tags will come back, it's not like loli and such are banned from the site.
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I just don't understand WTF is with just deleting stuff randomly?

Today the first chapter of Cuvie's "The Taste Of “H†Love" disapperaed, the only one my favorite. The rest is in place. I hardly can believe that only the first chapter has been "licensed". It seems like manga just disapperaes at random. And why deletion - what happened to just blocking it with red warning? At least people could se what happened with their bookmarks.

All this is realy sad - one of best websights turn into heck knows what.
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animefreak_usa wrote...

40 chapters a month isn't enough? Plus there anyways new artists and young artists in a good part of the monthly mags on avg.


Those 40 chapters are unlikely to be interesting to everyone. On average you could assume that half of those are something you'd be interested in per month.
The more "exotic" you fetishes are the more that number decreases.
With the removal of alot of tags will there even be 6-7 chapters per month I'd care about?

I don't mind paying for the individual pieces I want, however I doubt that the monthly thing would be worth it for my subjective case.
If you find yourself in the camp that would enjoy above half the chapters per month, good for you.
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animefreak_usa Child of Samael
Roqr wrote...
animefreak_usa wrote...

40 chapters a month isn't enough? Plus there anyways new artists and young artists in a good part of the monthly mags on avg.


Those 40 chapters are unlikely to be interesting to everyone. On average you could assume that half of those are something you'd be interested in per month.
The more "exotic" you fetishes are the more that number decreases.
With the removal of alot of tags will there even be 6-7 chapters per month I'd care about?

I don't mind paying for the individual pieces I want, however I doubt that the monthly thing would be worth it for my subjective case.
If you find yourself in the camp that would enjoy above half the chapters per month, good for you.

That the magical thing. The interwebs has it all. One can still find stuff you like and still read paid stuff. Plus if you say well I'll pay for individual chapters of what you like then you're really paying more for less. 4 or 5 chapters would pay for the 40. But they wouldn't do individual chapters anyways. It will be online somewhere else with in the week anyways. No one ever escapes the pirate machine. Jacob doesn't really doesn't care even if they do get uploaded somewhere for free.

Of course 4-5 chapter idea is hypothetical. One of the translators put up the idea if there was a chapter buying option then 2 bucks would be somewhat the charge. If a dollar was given then 7-9 is a ballpark.