A plea from a desperate soul.

You can't have a "pure" debate or trial without presenting all the evidence or facts.

Or are you implying pure = balanced.

lol cruz I see you like having trials in ib. But even you are not so dense to know this stuff would be better for her if left between the three of them.

It's like saying a trial would be better if it was between the judge who's slightly leaning towards the defending, the opposing lawyer, and the defending lawyer. Yes, it would be better FOR HER. Trials don't work like that though.

What I like or dislike is irrelevant to the conversation.

Also working out a private deal has already failed. I understand where you're coming from, but avoiding the question does you no favors.

I don't know Koko, but based on what I've read, she seems rather annoying. I'll ignore Jacob's first impressions and say keep her banned. The only reason this is up for debate is because she doesn't have a dick anyways.

Was there a question? I meant pure in the sense waar meant it.

I was clear from the start that this wasn't a witch hunt, I defended those that stayed on topic and berated those that attacked them. How do her words/her pm reveal my intentions? The risk was the risk of her relapsing and attacking people vs the reward of whatever she provided the site, it had nothing to do with personal gain for myself... It feels like it's getting harder and harder to get you to understand, and I'm starting to wonder if it's a lack of basic understanding of the English language. I asked her to fix the attitude the last time she asked to be allowed back and you can probably guess how she responded, this was beyond me wagging my finger at her, I wanted solutions and I wanted the community to come up with them, because if I just unbanned her the majority would harass and poke at her until she snapped again, the only way to make the community accept her is to make them feel like they had some hand in this.

I knew she had haters, and I know they would respond but as I said a couple of times hate and opinion don't sway me when I'm trying to do my job. Wanted to add you yourself said

so which was it, am I allowing users to debate one of my decisions or am I using this opportunity to bully people again. She does have friends and I hoped they would speak up. Don't speak of my intentions as if you know me. You really don't.

Edit; You sure do like to paint me as a villain even when I'm doing my job properly.

Woah sorry I wasn't so shrewd. Good thing you revealed it cuz i'm probably not the only one.



they aren't mutually exclusive :)

Meh, when Jake asked me to take a look at it I did it seriously, which led me to ask myself how could it even be possible at this point. It's didn't work out because she herself wasn't able to let go of her pride but had the thread continued we might have been able to come to some understanding, it might not have convince those who truly hate her but those still on the fence had a chance.



They are when it comes to my intentions, I can't have fun at others expenses and do my job properly. I would have to half ass the job if I wanted to turn this into some real fun for myself. I could have come down on you like a hammer for some of the stuff you said, and like everyone else I could have pushed you for your reasons but this is me being "professional".

Opan, you're quite the idiot.

You do realize that if left to just the three, Jacob would have left it up to Waar who would just say "Fuck her, she's still banned."

He has said as much that he was leaning towards that when he posted the thread.

He made the thread because he felt like there might be a chance that someone could make a convincing argument on her behalf to support her returning.

Not only did you fail that (your befuddlement just made a stronger case for against her coming back) but she herself came and destroyed all chances she could have had to make proper amends and return.

Waar is not being a bully because you're an incompetent fool and Koko is a selfish brat. Accept your shortcomings.

There are plenty of other ways that Waar acts like a bully.

Time to invest in a mac ban on her, if you can do it through forums

You're soooo banned for that.

Waaah waaah, Waar is bullying me.

This is very interesting. IMO well.. let her stay she did got the guts to talk to Mr.Jacob directly plus I believe that going to convention and still she's ban on the forum will be really awkward. If you feel that she's really a nuisance just ignore her. but what really bothers me is that I've heard she like sending guros to the people she hates. is that like sort of a threat? if yes. ban her. IMO she does make something to read worthwhile here.

Read the thread, dummy...

Talking to someone and pleading them to unban you doesn't require any guts at all. Even if I'm for unbanning Koko, you contradict yourself and your only real reason seems to be to point and stare at her, which we can do even without her being unbanned.

I contradict myself because I don't know her and I don't really see her post. but I don't want to be unfair here. I'll be honest I haven't really heard the whole story and why people wants to ban her but I believe It's fruitless to ban her account since you can make multiple accounts here. I know I'ts unfair to other people who was banned permanently but she did got the courage to reveal herself that she is really koko to jacob I think that's really what counts for me. and I feel that it's really sincere since jacob wouldn't have send a message here and consult the people here on this forum of what they feel about this. well if majority does wants this person to be ban so be it.

lel dat reasoning

Read. The. Thread. Carefully. Before. You. Speak.

And what I mean is, read the thread, page by page, each posts, and then come back.

Seriously. This thread.

Koko be singing: