A plea from a desperate soul.

Eh, I'm all for banning someone because they broke the rules, but banning someone just because the community hates them? Then how will people adapt to fit in?

Can this thread just finally be locked? I think the decision/opinion of the board has been made apparent.

I too believe this thread is a bunch of theatrics to kill waar's and our time. And it's hard to resist joining right? But you should've remained quiet and kept it to pming jacob and waar despite waar showing your pms for everyone.

I think Jacob knows that it's hard for you to resist provocation so these two alts in here are understandable. But I really advise you to refrein from rash posts and keep pming jacob/waar instead.

It was more of a general statement about everyone attacking his reasoning rather than his points than you in particular. His reasoning didn't matter in this case, only the content of his points. What I'm saying is you take the person out of the debate and focus solely on the topic. That's how any real debate is held and any good moderator worth his salt would disregard anything you had to say as soon as you started to attack the other debater.



Well as he never really stated you're jumping to conclusions. I told him he was wrong to think of Jacob's personal opinion as logical backing. You don't have to keep explaining yourself, we're going around in circles at this point, I know you wanted to know why he was backing her up and I'm telling you that doesn't affect whether or not koko should be allowed to stay, his reasoning(poor or otherwise) doesn't discredit his points. So drop that or ask him in private so we can move on.



Glad this was part of your post. The issue that I'm running into and the major reason I feel we cant allow her back is that while she might be enjoyable to watch as she continuously crashes and burns she is a poison for a specific group of people that she privately and sometimes publicly harasses, a major violation of our rules. If I could ensure she never sent another nasty pm to a user she felt wronged her I would be much more inclined to allow her return. I know no one can promise me that, the very fact she sent me a nasty pm as I gave her a last chance with this thread pretty much precludes any chance of her reform happening.



Do you really not understand how this is/was meant to help you? The second I started reading your pm I wanted to ban you. I am trying to justify letting you come back. I don't want you back, and to be honest I'm perfectly fine leaving you banned for all time but here I am once again trying to give your another chance.

Alright then, let's boil this down.

Do you still want to come back?

if not then go on your merry way and keep doing whatever, we can just continue as we have for the past year+.

If you do want to return shut the fuck up for a bit, let this thread play out and read what people have to say. Take it as constructive criticism and grow as a person. If you're really the "adult" you claim to be you know there are times when you need to shut your mouth; this is one of them. You are asking for a favor, stop biting the hand that feeds you.

I want you to understand your only chance at ever coming back to Fakku while I work here is this thread and only in the off chance that someone thinks of a great reason to keep you, because I can't think of one that's worth all of this.

Such a child. I don't want to be apart of you're omg all these girls all over me they just hate me~<3
Harem.

Get over yourself. And grow the fuck up. It doesn't matter what you do I'll always be here just not obviously. But I'd like it if jacob would just brush your pissy little boy narcissistic attitude aside and just unban me.
I don't care for you.

You're not something that deserves respect or anything. Except a good ass kicking.

It's funny because it's not gonna happen

This was my final attempt. To anyone who wanted her to be unbanned as you can see it just cant happen. The rest of you are free to celebrate, I won't but considering her for re-admittance as long as I work on Fakku.

At the end, she dug her own grave, got in there, and buried herself inside.

Such a child.

Get over yourself. And grow the fuck up. It doesn't matter what you do but I'd like it if jacob would just brush your pissy little boy narcissistic attitude.
I don't care for you.

You're not something that deserves respect or anything. Except a good ass kicking.

Finally...

You should have known that would be her attitude as soon as she posted in this thread.

It's probably no surprise that her entire mindset has been purely selfish when making that pm and not an actual attempt at making amends.

In a post long ago in IB I said that Koko and I were the same in sense that we were almost unexplainably annoying to the staff of our respected sites. But where the road spilt was when we got perma-banned. I remember I felt that it wasn't my fault that it was this person's fault and that person's fault and I completely didn't take responsibility for actions because I handle that I messed up so bad and I let things get that bad but same time that was going on I was joining Fakku. When I saw people here being nice and liking what I have to say. I was shocked and astonished because I always thought it was because who I was what got me trouble and no one would like me for me. But seeing that realized that how I act was my problem. So I said to myself, "Never again!" So I kept working on being a better person and forum member. I took accountability when I got banned but I never felt fulfill for doing it but now I do fulfill because now I see that I learn and grew from that as an adult.

Koko, though with a similar situation, did what many people suspect me to do. She remained annoying, didn't try take accountability for her actions, and instead go on a crusade saying how we wrongfully force her out or we drove her to this point. Seeing that makes me sick because she was one who drove herself to this and no one else. And she will never learn that accountability if she is reinstated as a member because now everytime she gets in trouble she'll just make 50 or so alts and spam the forums while talking to Jacob and *poof* she's reinstated again. Any accountability she even has now would disappear if she was reinstated. The only way for her to develop that accountability if she is banned because I do believe there is a part of her blaming herself but she doesn't listen to it because she refuses to but eventually when burn herself from this "crusade against IB" her sense of accountability will grow to point where she can no longer ignore it because every moment here reminds her of what got her banned in the first place but redirects that energy into "fighting" us.

Koko will eventually grow as an adult and develop a sense of accountability but it will never happen by being an member here.

>Work on fakku

Ha!

Wanted to add: not a fan of being accused of lying about my intentions with this thread. Everyone shits themselves when I do whatever the fuck I want so when I try to do things differently you question the pureness of my intentions?

I only question the pureness of your anal virginity.

Well, it's settled right? Koko is a stubborn bitch who refuses to change herself so she can't come back.

Whatever debate has happened probably has ended by now. I think it's pretty obvious what the decision should be.

I'm away for what, 2 days? and then this shit happens. I'm never around when things get duramatic.

That being said I always say 49s the charm. (or something like that)

Don't get me wrong I've had a fair amount of abuse hurtled at me from Koko on skype but I reckon if she's willing to put up with being shunned by pretty much everyone on the forums and doesn't violate any more rules once you unban her original account and doesn't come crying to the mods for help then she should be allowed back on a trial basis. Unless there is something I've missed (I've not yet gone through all 11 pages of this thread and I have pretty much missed all the koko threads prior to this due to various reasons. Although I pretty much get that this is decided already.

You believed I or someone else could pull off a miracle in this situation? As soon as you put that pm for everyone to see, the pureness of that action was already in question. Plus after you showed that you were only interested in reward it became clear as day that you weren't going to let her back, like seriously, reward for unbanning koko? You knew from the start there would be no reward, aside ridiculing her even more. Her only hope was through Jacob but he asked you two haters to make peace. And after she put a lousy pm asking you to leave your disagreement behind what did you do, asked her to fix her attitude and try again?

You presented it to ib, fully aware what it would cause. Nothing was pure here from the start man.