Should we declare War on North Korea?
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Badguy wrote...
Good ole 13 14 page long IB debate threads, ye have been missed.http://vocaroo.com/i/s1sGarl8l18R
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LongevityDrunk wrote...
Badguy wrote...
Good ole 13 14 page long IB debate threads, ye have been missed.http://vocaroo.com/i/s1sGarl8l18R
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1jkij9on4iF
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Tanasinn wrote...
So if you don't feel like proving anything then why bother trying to endlessly defend yourself when obviously the general agreement here is that you are pretentious and assume blindly that you are better than everyone else? I mean honestly for anyone to take you seriously you have to provide sources to your claim. Otherwise, silly viewpoints such as yours end up in the bowels of Ib.
Sure you can say stuff and 'claim' that you pointed Tegumi out and put her in her place, but without any real backbone to your delivery it will always be seen as some loser trying to save face on the internet.
Really Lustful Angel, for someone who wants to desperately stand his ground, you really know how to make your claims unbelievable. Going so far as to be unwilling to prove anything shows us by logical understanding that you never really spoke to Tegumi at all and you are just making it up.
And that is why your thread is here. Your approach is pure non-proven/researched nonsense.
Wow, you're telling me you're so stupid that you can't even read a newspaper? Or hell, in the modern age of the internet there are several news sites from which you can gather information.
To further illustrate the decisive difference between us is that you don't know why the thread was moved to IB. For I heavily doubt you insofar as cared or even wanted to know from say Tegumi or one of the moderators.
As you don't know why, your speculation falls on deaf ears and as such it's just as petty and small as you.
Let us see just how big and mighty you are, and how interested in the truth you are: Tell me how I can link you to my PM'S? Responding to you is hardly worth my time or effort, but I'll never forgive someone who dares to challenge my IQ.
Jacob: Is it because this is a forum more to your liking, with people of a similar intelligence that you feel encouraged to post here? Tana, you had posted that
this thread was here due to "non researched nonsense". I'll grant you this:
True, but not on my account. The derailment of this thread began when Jacob cited an article. The problem was that Jacob took liberties with the article and in my mind completely rewrote it. He had wasted about two pages or so(8-10) defending his nonsensical revision to the death.
I never revised history, or the present. A tldr version of this debate is that I believed we couldn't tolerate the threat anymore and had to do something significant about it.
Even one of the top senior official of the U.N agrees with me
As information had come out, IMO my position is only strengthened with weakening of diplomatic and economic ties between Russia and China with North Korea. As I said, a coalition with the three world powers is possible, provided we aim for a neutral and prosperous Korea and not one as a proxy state of either of the nations.
Whereas before we couldn't do anything, the world is being compelled to act the more NK refuses to be to quote Hillary Clinton: "A rational actor" in the world theater.
For Asia, for the world and for our american citizens who were threatened by this regime a few meager sanctions or just 'leaving it alone' would be extremely dangerous. Just as leaving Soviet alone allowed it to build massive arms with which the world did not foresee.
Stalin's 4 year plans butchered and murdered millions. This same position of "neutrality" had cost far too many lives and saved very few.
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Kona-chan wrote...
LustfulAngel wrote...
derpLustFullOfShit, just shut the fuck up...
You know what? As long as everyone else does the same, I'm perfectly fine with it.
Let this thread die in its useless infamy like every other meaningless IB thread.
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devsonfire
3,000,000th Poster
Oh god. No wonder this thread got moved to IB.
And for your info, most of IB regulars can and will show their intelligence and knowledge when needed, it's just..... not all people can comprehend it.
Not saying I'm one of them, I'm here just for da lulz.
And for your info, most of IB regulars can and will show their intelligence and knowledge when needed, it's just..... not all people can comprehend it.
Not saying I'm one of them, I'm here just for da lulz.
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devsonfire wrote...
Oh god. No wonder this thread got moved to IB.And for your info, most of IB regulars can and will show their intelligence and knowledge when needed, it's just..... not all people can comprehend it.
Not saying I'm one of them, I'm here just for da lulz.
>implying every regular in IB is a retard
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Ehh, the first page of this looked promising...I uh...guess not.
Watching North Korea isn't doing much in my opinion. And like others said, we can't do anything 'til we're somehow threatened. I wish we could just ignore them, and maybe the whole thing'll blow over. HA! Not gunna happen. If we did go to war, there's nowhere to run or hide, then. I don't know too much, eheheh. But still! Whatever happens in this situation won't have a happy ending for a long time.
Watching North Korea isn't doing much in my opinion. And like others said, we can't do anything 'til we're somehow threatened. I wish we could just ignore them, and maybe the whole thing'll blow over. HA! Not gunna happen. If we did go to war, there's nowhere to run or hide, then. I don't know too much, eheheh. But still! Whatever happens in this situation won't have a happy ending for a long time.
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devsonfire
3,000,000th Poster
Kona-chan wrote...
devsonfire wrote...
Oh god. No wonder this thread got moved to IB.And for your info, most of IB regulars can and will show their intelligence and knowledge when needed, it's just..... not all people can comprehend it.
Not saying I'm one of them, I'm here just for da lulz.
>implying every regular in IB is a retard
Never said it, I just think people come to IB just for fun.
Unless you mean something else by writing that in green.
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Kona-chan wrote...
LongevityDrunk wrote...
Badguy wrote...
Good ole 13 14 page long IB debate threads, ye have been missed.http://vocaroo.com/i/s1sGarl8l18R
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1jkij9on4iF
http://vocaroo.com/i/s18jgzvsDxS4
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Tanasinn
The Bellpepper
LustfulAngel wrote...
Tanasinn wrote...
So if you don't feel like proving anything then why bother trying to endlessly defend yourself when obviously the general agreement here is that you are pretentious and assume blindly that you are better than everyone else? I mean honestly for anyone to take you seriously you have to provide sources to your claim. Otherwise, silly viewpoints such as yours end up in the bowels of Ib.
Sure you can say stuff and 'claim' that you pointed Tegumi out and put her in her place, but without any real backbone to your delivery it will always be seen as some loser trying to save face on the internet.
Really Lustful Angel, for someone who wants to desperately stand his ground, you really know how to make your claims unbelievable. Going so far as to be unwilling to prove anything shows us by logical understanding that you never really spoke to Tegumi at all and you are just making it up.
And that is why your thread is here. Your approach is pure non-proven/researched nonsense.
Wow, you're telling me you're so stupid that you can't even read a newspaper? Or hell, in the modern age of the internet there are several news sites from which you can gather information.
To further illustrate the decisive difference between us is that you don't know why the thread was moved to IB. For I heavily doubt you insofar as cared or even wanted to know from say Tegumi or one of the moderators.
As you don't know why, your speculation falls on deaf ears and as such it's just as petty and small as you.
Wow, you are telling me you are too stupid to see I wasn't talking about the north korea topic? The whole post was about you 'talking' to tegumi, and knowing tegumi's standards anyone can tell you were spreading bad facts. She wouldn't waste the time with you. At all. You are too full of yourself.
I know the exact reason this thread was moved to IB. Jacob started trolling your 'intelligence' [EL OH EL] and then Tegumi, or someone who isn't as delusional as you, moved the thread to a more suitable place. You see kiddo, they wouldn't have moved the thread here if they thought this was actually a thread with the required intelligent standards that are met in countless better SD threads.
Let us see just how big and mighty you are, and how interested in the truth you are: Tell me how I can link you to my PM'S? Responding to you is hardly worth my time or effort, but I'll never forgive someone who dares to challenge my IQ.
From this part of the post alone, you are already challenging your own stupidity. There are several ways to show proof of the conversation. Like posting screencaps of the messages. Anyone with google could easily look up the information on how to do that. Yet, while you insist that you have the intelligence to do so it is in fact the one thing you never thought of doing.
Another fun point here is how you assume that I am 'big and mighty'. No no, very far from it. It is just insanely easy to pick apart your complaints to further show you, and everyone else, the errors you constantly post as well as your decision to throw pathetic insults as justification of your 'intelligence'. Lustful, if you claim to be of such high 'intelligence' [one of which everyone is questioning here] then why waste the intellect throwing meaningless insults in a poor effort to prove you are better than everyone else?
Your post presented a near perfect mirror image of how everyone sees you. And as always you are going to prove all of us correct with another poor excuse of demonstration.
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Tanasinn wrote...
Wow, you are telling me you are too stupid to see I wasn't talking about the north korea topic? The whole post was about you 'talking' to tegumi, and knowing tegumi's standards anyone can tell you were spreading bad facts. She wouldn't waste the time with you. At all. You are too full of yourself.
In deciding not to post, I had given you a way out from not posting any more but it seems you can't help yourself. You yourself had said "Non researched facts", are you now telling me that I have to 'research' a conversation I had with another person?
Secondly, this might surprise you but I'll inform you: Tegumi isn't important, at that none of the other moderators are(with the exception of Jacob) and even his 'importance' is relative: It's just a site, but one and I'm sure if Fakku were to go down in some freak accident we'd find some other site or something else to occupy the time.
Don't get me wrong, I respect Tegumi and the others as moderators and the job that they do. But I hold proper value, they're not public officials nor the people who run my life. Their job is to moderate the forum, no more or no less.
So I don't hold myself in "high esteem", no, in this example you hold them far too highly. In which case it's time for a little self examination on your part.
Tanasinn wrote...
I know the exact reason this thread was moved to IB. Jacob started trolling your 'intelligence' [EL OH EL] and then Tegumi, or someone who isn't as delusional as you, moved the thread to a more suitable place. You see kiddo, they wouldn't have moved the thread here if they thought this was actually a thread with the required intelligent standards that are met in countless better SD threads.Let's see, like this one?
If anything, THAT topic belongs in Incoherent Babbling. If you didn't click the link, the TLDR version refers to the rape case involving a teenage girl(who was stupid enough to drink late and leave herself vulnerable and a couple of dumb teenage males who were stupid enough to post the evidence on the interwebz)
The judge decided on the better part of leniency and went for a lesser sentence then if an adult had done the crime(Which was logical, given a court is a place of reason not lynching). The poster then proclaims that there's some "Rape Culture" that exists(or has existed for quite some time) on the account of the lesser sentence.
Considering that a sex offender is basically barred from contact with children, and restricted to areas that are mostly remote from society(such as Hospices and so forth), the sentence for a predator is in short living death.
Statistics surrounding violations have been inconsistent for the most part, and we could do better with incarcerations but there's a logical reason: With theft, murder or assault there's physical evidence connecting to the crime. With sexual assault, not so much. The stature of limitations, etc al.
It's a very difficult, thorny legal side on both the account of the accuser and the accused. Hey, here's to hoping the justice system gets better and we can better bring justice to criminals while making it so that it doesn't cause too much damage to those who end up being falsely accused.
Such as this
I'm sure you took note of the starter of that thread, I did that for a reason. Jacob, "trolling my intelligence"? Perhaps, but so not in the way you think. I gave the kid an English Lesson, so that he can better read articles rather than spin them into a story that wasn't there.
He detracted the thread, but it so wasn't "trolling", it was plainly spam.
Secondly, "Intelligent standards", coming from you this will be highly entertaining: What "Intelligent Standards" did the beginning of this thread lack?
I noted the North Korean threat, I suggested that it was and is a severe danger to the world community. If not now, but allowing that nation to be idle for another decade or even two decades will eliminate the capacity for bringing about change in the region.
I had used links to do so, our discussion varied and points were shared. I believe the conversation was a high level one for the most part.
Tanasinn wrote...
From this part of the post alone, you are already challenging your own stupidity. There are several ways to show proof of the conversation. Like posting screencaps of the messages. Anyone with google could easily look up the information on how to do that. Yet, while you insist that you have the intelligence to do so it is in fact the one thing you never thought of doing.Another fun point here is how you assume that I am 'big and mighty'. No no, very far from it. It is just insanely easy to pick apart your complaints to further show you, and everyone else, the errors you constantly post as well as your decision to throw pathetic insults as justification of your 'intelligence'. Lustful, if you claim to be of such high 'intelligence' [one of which everyone is questioning here] then why waste the intellect throwing meaningless insults in a poor effort to prove you are better than everyone else?
Your post presented a near perfect mirror image of how everyone sees you. And as always you are going to prove all of us correct with another poor excuse of demonstration.
The 'Truth' is the eye of the beholder. It's a very correct statement and it applies to this situation. What you think of me I know to be precisely of your identity(and those of several others who had the gall to even post).
For example, those of you who used voice messages and thought that was actually funny or meaningful. Another example to you personally, Tanasinn: You proclaim the 'errors I constantly post', yet you hadn't pointed out a single thing as an 'error'
Another example Tanasinn is your constant ability to assume things. For which you've no evidence. You assume everyone 'questions' my intelligence, which might be a healthy assumption but even if that assumption holds true it doesn't make a difference. It's not something I hold relevant, nor is it something that proves you righteous. You assumed that the thread was started on false premises(which of course, wasn't the case)
The only thing true you said was that I didn't think of screen shooting the PM.
For you, I'll go and do precisely that. Because if I don't, in your shallow mind you would perceive that as a 'victory'.
You asked why would I insult you and others who make posts that quite frankly aren't worth my time addressing. I'll tell you: The only way for you to get any better is to acknowledge your own weakness. It annoys me to living hell to see a nonsensical post, approach, etc. A dumb person.
Unlike most, I can tolerate different races, I can tolerate different people. I can tolerate the different sexes, etc. I just can't tolerate a dumb person.
Actually, that's somewhat tolerable on the account that a dumb person doesn't even know they're dumb. What's intolerable are Dumb people who think they're smart.
And no, they're not a minority. There are tens of hundreds of millions of them in this country. Dare I say they're the voting majority. It is then, no question as to why this country has declined vastly.
Intellectual founders raised this country, their descendants can't even light the tip of the candle. In fact, they don't even wish to be descendants of the country. America has no nationality, no symbol. Just a phrase named "freedom" for the hordes to consume.
It's over, the quickest decline from world power to irrelevant.
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Tanasinn
The Bellpepper
LustfulAngel wrote...
In deciding not to post, I had given you a way out from not posting any more but it seems you can't help yourself. You yourself had said "Non researched facts", are you now telling me that I have to 'research' a conversation I had with another person?
No, no. Your non-researched facts and the fact that you claim things and never produce proof for them are two different things. You see, conversation can have many points applied to them at the same time. But I do apologize for stating the obvious in light of... well whatever the hell you are doing.
LustfulAngel wrote...
Secondly, this might surprise you but I'll inform you: Tegumi isn't important, at that none of the other moderators are(with the exception of Jacob) and even his 'importance' is relative: It's just a site, but one and I'm sure if Fakku were to go down in some freak accident we'd find some other site or something else to occupy the time.
Don't get me wrong, I respect Tegumi and the others as moderators and the job that they do. But I hold proper value, they're not public officials nor the people who run my life. Their job is to moderate the forum, no more or no less.
So I don't hold myself in "high esteem", no, in this example you hold them far too highly. In which case it's time for a little self examination on your part.
Ok, so you just admitted that it isn't important for the general good of the site to keep unruly members in check every once and awhile. If you claim to hold your 'proper value' then why did you get upset when your thread [which has not even reached the requirement standard of SD quality] got moved to IB? You reaction was one of someone who lets others run their life. Someone who held value wouldn't have cared about the move and they would have just tried again well knowing that the move was simply just a lesson in creating threads that actually made the SD standard.
LustfulAngel wrote...
Let's see, like this one?
If anything, THAT topic belongs in Incoherent Babbling. If you didn't click the link, the TLDR version refers to the rape case involving a teenage girl(who was stupid enough to drink late and leave herself vulnerable and a couple of dumb teenage males who were stupid enough to post the evidence on the interwebz)
The judge decided on the better part of leniency and went for a lesser sentence then if an adult had done the crime(Which was logical, given a court is a place of reason not lynching). The poster then proclaims that there's some "Rape Culture" that exists(or has existed for quite some time) on the account of the lesser sentence.
Considering that a sex offender is basically barred from contact with children, and restricted to areas that are mostly remote from society(such as Hospices and so forth), the sentence for a predator is in short living death.
Statistics surrounding violations have been inconsistent for the most part, and we could do better with incarcerations but there's a logical reason: With theft, murder or assault there's physical evidence connecting to the crime. With sexual assault, not so much. The stature of limitations, etc al.
It's a very difficult, thorny legal side on both the account of the accuser and the accused. Hey, here's to hoping the justice system gets better and we can better bring justice to criminals while making it so that it doesn't cause too much damage to those who end up being falsely accused.
Such as this
I'm sure you took note of the starter of that thread, I did that for a reason. Jacob, "trolling my intelligence"? Perhaps, but so not in the way you think. I gave the kid an English Lesson, so that he can better read articles rather than spin them into a story that wasn't there.
He detracted the thread, but it so wasn't "trolling", it was plainly spam.
Secondly, "Intelligent standards", coming from you this will be highly entertaining: What "Intelligent Standards" did the beginning of this thread lack?
I noted the North Korean threat, I suggested that it was and is a severe danger to the world community. If not now, but allowing that nation to be idle for another decade or even two decades will eliminate the capacity for bringing about change in the region.
I had used links to do so, our discussion varied and points were shared. I believe the conversation was a high level one for the most part.
Actually you are wrong yet again. You see, if that thread was suppose to be in IB it would [and this might be a bit intense for you so I will lay it down smoothly] have been moved to IB. Simple as that, there is a reason that you are not a mod. The name of the member should not matter here. They presented the topic a very solid one at that, and the conversation grew from there.
The topic to your thread isn't solid at all. Actually the question presented is very one-sided. No one wants to go into war with anyone. We still have our hands in places I feel we overstayed our welcome. Adding yet another war on things isn't going to help and bringing other countries into a conflict based solely on north korea's empty threats won't look good on anyone. It will simply paint everyone's view of america in a negative light despite being the lesser of two evils.
LustfulAngel wrote...
The 'Truth' is the eye of the beholder. It's a very correct statement and it applies to this situation. What you think of me I know to be precisely of your identity(and those of several others who had the gall to even post).
No, the truth is IN the eye of the beholder. Please, if you are going to use saying like that at least learn to use them in full and not some butchered version you thought up to be 'clever'. However I will say that you are right in stating that this applies to you completely as well. No one is exempt as much as you sadly wish you were.
LustfulAngel wrote...
For example, those of you who used voice messages and thought that was actually funny or meaningful. Another example to you personally, Tanasinn: You proclaim the 'errors I constantly post', yet you hadn't pointed out a single thing as an 'error'
As for the errors, I pointed out that you incorrectly used a saying by missing a word. You see, saying take different meanings when you start warping things to fit your excuse of a defense. It is the same as removing the [,]s in the sentence below:
Lustful Angel helped his uncle jack off a horse.
Do you see how bad this looks on you compared to the correct sentence?:
Lustful Angel helped his uncle, Jack, off a horse.
There are quite a few other mistakes [too many to bother really] but in a act of kindness I will point out the other error(s) I saw in this post in blue just for you Lustful. The easy part is that these small things come up constantly which, I admit, is part of the reason why I didn't link to any of them in the first place. I mean why bother when they are a post or two ago right?
LustfulAngel wrote...
Another example Tanasinn is your constant ability to assume things. For which you've no evidence. You assume everyone 'questions' my intelligence, which might be a healthy assumption but even if that assumption holds true it doesn't make a difference. It's not something I hold relevant, nor is it something that proves you righteous. You assumed that the thread was started on false premises(which of course, wasn't the case)
Actually we do have evidence. If you have forgotten [which I pray on your 'high intelligence' that you didn't] your thread is now in IB. Which means someone higher than you thought it did not meet the requirements to stay in SD and the thread has yet to move back there. If that explanation went over your head it means that someone was questioning your 'intelligence', moved the thread to another board to let other people see what that mod saw in your posts which resulted in quite a few negative responses towards you and your thread.
If you didn't hold this relevant in any way whatsoever then why, may I ask, did you feel the need to become upset about this?
LustfulAngel wrote...
The only thing true you said was that I didn't think of screen shooting the PM.
For you, I'll go and do precisely that. Because if I don't, in your shallow mind you would perceive that as a 'victory'.
It's not 'screen shooting', it's 'screen-capping'. A few may argue that 'screen-shooting' [note the '-'] may work, but it is generally one of the 'grey' words. It just sounds bad when you say it out loud.
Also it's not the only thing I was right on but eh, the general population of both SD and IB already know this so at this point it will be redundant to repeat it.
In your second point here, let's refer back to your 'eye of the beholder' comment earlier. This applies to you as well [as you stated earlier] in your shallow mind, you assume you 'gained' a victory due to your 'high intelligence'. What I just said here is no different than what you claim in this statement.
LustfulAngel wrote...
You asked why would I insult you and others who make posts that quite frankly aren't worth my time addressing. I'll tell you: The only way for you to get any better is to acknowledge your own weakness. It annoys me to living hell to see a nonsensical post, approach, etc. A dumb person.
But yet you spend the time addressing anyway. Anyone in their right mind wouldn't waste the time. Well unless they are trying to be 'holier than thou' in their poor attempts to prove that they are smarter than everyone else. But truly falling to this level pretty much kills any claims in being intelligent at all. However, your view in doing your actions can be applied yet again to anyone else here. Even you. The only way for you to get better at making good SD threads is to have one of your threads [as well as you] be picked apart and then presented to you so you can see and acknowledge your weaknesses. For example, your 'better than you' approach to everything.. on the internet.. I'll let that one sink right in there for a bit.
LustfulAngel wrote...
Unlike most, I can tolerate different races, I can tolerate different people. I can tolerate the different sexes, etc. I just can't tolerate a dumb person.
LustfulAngel wrote...
Actually, that's somewhat tolerable on the account that a dumb person doesn't even know they're dumb. What's intolerable are Dumb people who think they're smart.
I think you are onto something here. I totally get what you are saying right here. I would like to add that it's usually the dumb people that keep insisting that they are 'smarter and above' everyone else yet they are ready to sink down to the level of a group of posters in a heartbeat. They are completely oblivious to the fact that as the conversation goes on, more and more of their supposed 'high intellect' is just a ruse for hiding the already obvious. They claim that it isn't worth their time and that they are above it all, but once they start throwing insults to make themselves feel better they succumb into being the very thing they lied to everyone about not being.
LustfulAngel wrote...
And no, they're not a minority. There are tens of hundreds of millions of them in this country. Dare I say they're the voting majority. It is then, no question as to why this country has declined vastly.
You do vote, right?
LustfulAngel wrote...
Intellectual founders raised this country, their descendants can't even light the tip of the candle. In fact, they don't even wish to be descendants of the country. America has no nationality, no symbol. Just a phrase named "freedom" for the hordes to consume.
It's over, the quickest decline from world power to irrelevant.
Did they say that they didn't wish to be descendants? I just don't see you providing anything here to back up your claims. Also did anyone else notice the awkward transition from the tone at the beginning to now? Just me? mmkay.
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animefreak_usa
Child of Samael
say what! wrote...
Jesus, this is still going.I have a ache of the frontal lobes. I been in the darkroom since 10.
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Tanasinn
The Bellpepper
say what! wrote...
Jesus, this is still going.hey it's not my fault that lustful doesn't get it yet.
or maybe it is....
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animefreak_usa wrote...
say what! wrote...
Jesus, this is still going.I have a ache of the frontal lobes. I been in the darkroom since 10.
Stop drinking then.
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animefreak_usa
Child of Samael
say what! wrote...
animefreak_usa wrote...
say what! wrote...
Jesus, this is still going.I have a ache of the frontal lobes. I been in the darkroom since 10.
Stop drinking then.
I haven't.
