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OK, I get that, but what about the other part? Going shopping and such together.

Do you find it odd that your partner might/will/does know more about the clothes your shopping for than you? Or is this also a (relatively huge...) plus for you?

I'm mostly curious, because while I might be a bit cynical at time, I find myself a bit of a "feminine guy". I like girls clothes (or rather, clothes in general), in no ways perverted. I like shopping, and not just for games or sports equipment. Like cooking and such, but the opposite sex always seems rather standoffish when they notice this. This confuses me. I thought someone would like a guy like that. I mean, I'm not that bad looking (not trying to brag, etc...), and I have these qualities. So, again, just curious.

If I was a woman, and the guy I was dating was "feminine" (did the things you mentioned), I'd probably be afraid that the guy was gay.

Aside from that, some women like strength more than having a clean home. When those women look at a man, they like to see someone who is willing to get tough and beat someone's ass if they mess with her. Usually (though it's certainly not always the case), a guy who likes shopping and cooking and cleaning isn't going to be able to beat up a thug on the street.

i dont mind fashion, and I enjoy shopping for my own clothes... girl clothes... that's a bit odd but who am I to say whats normal?

Almost sounds like you're saying your own clothes are girl's clothes there. I wouldn't judge you. :P

Anyway, it's very easy to point out something abnormal in life, but like you say really, impossible to define normal to begin with. A little 'metrosexuality' in a man shouldn't be automatically suspicious, at least not in this day and age. Surely women appreciate a man sharing their passions, helping out around the house, looking after themselves better etcetera?

It's romantic and sweet but sort of dull. I'd much rather have a personalized proposal. Such as, a teacher I knew that proposed to his girlfriend by making a mini-book about how they got together (she's a children's librarian). In the end of the book, he asks her to marry him and then he gets on one knee, etc.

I found that to be adorable. I wouldn't mind cliched marriage proposals but it's better when he/she puts in the effort of making it personal.




I don't mind that. If anything, that just makes him more helpful. I don't see why any girl would have a problem with a guy who is willing to help in things guys normally wouldn't want to.

Let me reiterate than; I like fashion, and giving opinion on clothing. It's not like I like girls clothes, as if I plan to wear them, and I go shopping around looking at them any chance I get. No, no. I can however give a relatively good opinion on them if asked.

As for being tough; I don't like fighting. Never have, never will. Though if put into a position where I need to, I will not hold back. Seeing how I've studied both Martial Arts, Kendo, and do have knowledge of handling a gun (some of the few things that I've done that are considered "manly"), I'm not so easy to take down and can do quite well on my own in a fight.

I'm not judging you at all; I merely gave a possible explanation.

It's sort of like how a lot of guys want a girl that's not going to watch football with a bag of Cheetos in one hand and the other down her pants and who is physically frail and needs protecting. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, just what some people like.

Have you ever asked the girls who seemed standoffish why they felt that way?

Multiple times. All with a similar answer; That I wasn't their type, and they weren't interested anymore. Some more passive or rude than others, but all giving the same general message.

No quips here. Cooking together is pretty fun, and since when should cleaning be only for women? As for the interest in female clothes, it's OK as long as it remains detached and not an obsession.

Now I don't know if this question has been asked before, but which attracts girls more: A guy being cool while being a slight/all-out jerk, or a guy who's more silent and cool? I'm sure we all know of the stereotype that guys who act like jerks/pricks somehow always gets the girl over the guy who isn't but also isn't a nerd either. I'd like to know what our female base of members think about this because in a way, this also is a reflection on me. (being that of the latter, more silent less jerk type)

I think the key is that girls like to chase guys just as much as we like to chase girls, so when a girl notices a guy acting like a dick she wants to get passed that wall. Most of the "stereotypical guys" have a soft a squishy inside as well, they just don't let anyone in. Just what I've noticed (i get more attention when acting apathetic than when I give chase). Some guys are just dicks though.

Depends how much of a jerk you are, and how well the girl takes it. Some girls laugh at it, others get butthurt and will avoid you.

Most girls go for the 'cool' guys. But there's a lot of girls who dislike that type as a whole.

I find that when the cool guys who are arrogant, also act semi retarded when they're around their other fellow male friends. I remember I was in a shop class and I was sitting with two of those guys and they were flicking paper at each other and saying things in a retarded manner. I seriously looked around the room - saw a guy reading a book, and stood up and went to sit with him.

This was the first day of school, and whoever we sat with at tables were groups, and I was so thankful.

I seriously don't need a guy in my life who I would also have to babysit because their maturity scale is nonexistent. I'm not their mom.

Granted, it's not as though they can't be goofy. One of the biggest things I like in a guy is a sense of humor - but there's a difference in being able to get work done and having fun while doing it, to watching porn in class and getting punished by the teacher and having no self control.

I would much sooner come to a quiet guy than to an obnoxiously loud guy. Sometimes I don't even know why the 'cool guys' go to college. All they do is sit out in the commons area and hehehaha and tease every girl whose wearing abercrombie ;p

I'd also like to point out how almost all the 'cool guys' drop out by the end of the semester because they can't get their act together and manage to pass with a C.

If I was gonna hit on a guy who was a dick I'd just stop. I wouldn't want to date/sex up a guy who was going to act like that. He's not a anime character with a soft squishy inside, he's an ass who knows he's being a dick. But I totally agree with Waar about the apathetic thing. If you ignore me for a bit, I'll be all over you!

it's how some girls work, most if i'm not mistaken, but there are exceptions to the rule.

this thread begs the question: what kind of traits are you looking for in a guy, and what need to be most prominent? is attitude a double edged sword, adding tension and depth to a guy? do you believe in the axiom nice guys finish last, that maybe their too nice for their own good?

i find that being a nice guy has its ups and downs. im the guy most girls can come to for advice or a shoulder to cry on but its as if thats all im good for sometimes. its a boot in the ass when i support these girls and their decisions, give them some input to work with and then they end up cherishing the guys that treat them like shit! thus the attitude question before, i just dont get it.

and dont get me wrong, i dont expect a girl to just turn tail on their love interests because i gave them some good advice but its almost as if theres a blockade in their head that im incapable of being something more to them because of my personality. *sigh*... please? lol

I feel you, and while i had some success in the past with girls, i've been heading down the nice guy who finishes last path for a while now. The only real advice I can give you is to never treat a girl you like as a friend... If you do that it's like shooting yourself in the foot. If they start to head down the cry on your shoulder path you need to cut it off. I know many of you feel that the best relationships are formed with guys/girls you were friends with before, but I have to tell you, that love is a rare love that often results in heart break (for the guy most of the time) for one party. I'm thinking about writing a new thread about the women of fakku... but ill hold off until I run is past some people i trust.

This rings too true, and I mean it. I've had a couple of girls (and guys) confess to me some of their inner secrets, stress, and problems. I'm a nice guy, and like what (>'.')>¿;= said in bold, I asked my question couple of posts before "why girls fall for guys who act like jerks?". Waar's right, being nice "cry-on-shoulder" type literally equates to shooting yourself in the foot. I see girls always falling for the jock, the jerk, the prick, the show-off and while I can't blame them, it causes great resentment. I still don't understand it to this day.

where do you draw the line as a friend or something more though guys? i feel that if im not doing my best to listen and be a reliable medium for advice and support then im not doing my part as a friend. its not that i try to work a relationship from any of my friendships, to be honest i find risking a good friendship for an attempt at something more doesnt usually seem worth it. but then youd think a respectable reputation from your friends to theirs would amount to something... im going in circles here. all i know is that im considered a 'gentlemen' and that doesnt cut it for dating material. thanks for the feedback so far waar, g-money.

what was your idea for the fakku girl thread waar? what were you hoping to accomplish with it? paint me intrigued, im sure im not a strong word of support for you but id like to see it happen.