Gambler Needs Some Advice and Morale Support (It's Over?)
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Gambler wrote...
The Good News - I managed to obtain her mobile phone number earlier in the day.
Well you got one thing checked off. Congrats!
Regarding knowing whether she is attached to someone there's always:
The blunt way of asking her if she's seeing someone else.
You could talk about what your going to do on the weekend and see if she say anything that would give you a hint of seeing someone.
Ask one of her friend or causally slip it in question when you talk to her.
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Aai
FAKKU Ass Master
What ever you do, do not ask her out over text, I also believe texting doesn't apply to the three day rule Lol.
If you got her number, that is a positive start of course, so on your next course of action, try asking if she is seeing anyone! if not then you can muster up the courage to ask her out on a date... go eat lunch together or something that you believe will bring you two together.
I wish I had more to give but I'm sure there are many other experienced users than I...
Good luck Gambler! hope anything you do will bring you happiness!
If you got her number, that is a positive start of course, so on your next course of action, try asking if she is seeing anyone! if not then you can muster up the courage to ask her out on a date... go eat lunch together or something that you believe will bring you two together.
I wish I had more to give but I'm sure there are many other experienced users than I...
Good luck Gambler! hope anything you do will bring you happiness!
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Gambler wrote...
A somewhat positive update from me:The Good News - I managed to obtain her mobile phone number earlier in the day.
The Bad News - I am still unsure whether or not she is attached.
That being said, what should I do next? When would it be appropriate to text her, and must it necessarily be about school/work? Most of you mentioned the dreaded "Friend Zone" if one were to wait far too long before asking the other party out, be it for a simple meal or a date, but neither do I want to appear hasty in fear of scaring her away.
Sounds like a good first step! Though you now have her number, I'd avoid calling it until you've made plans in person: this shows you really put effort into it. Just calling (or worse, texting) without having set something up first seems a little odd to me, imho.
Next time you see her, talk a little more. Have Halloween plans? Discuss them, see if she's free! Holidays always make good starting points for reasons to get together.
If she's busy, wait a bit. Just keep talking and making more connections; eventually your opportunity will arise, maybe not today or tomorrow, but soon!
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Takerial
Lovable Teddy Bear
A girl giving you her number is a positive sign. It means that she is, in the least, attracted to you or thinks she could end up be attracted to you.
As of now, I could see a few options.
1. Chat with her in class until you learn a little bit more about her. This could be a good place to casually see if she is involved. Of course this can also take time, time that could take her off the field from you.
2. Take a casual date approach. Basically put, this would be hanging out as "just friends". But not really. No need to put labels on it for the most part. This would be something like "Hey, I know this place (insert game arcade, or movie or something simple). Sound like you'd want to go?"
Of course it's a date. It's noticeable to anyone. But it doesn't have the pressure of an outright date. And it could easily be pushed to a "just friends thing." And it's good to test the waters with.
3. Or you could just go with the outright date request. As in making it known it's a date.
Personally, I would think the casual friend date would be a better choice, as it would give both of you a chance to see if there really is a spark there. It also gives a chance to learn a little bit more about each other so that you can better plan the first real date if it happens and also not have to break the ice as much.
As of now, I could see a few options.
1. Chat with her in class until you learn a little bit more about her. This could be a good place to casually see if she is involved. Of course this can also take time, time that could take her off the field from you.
2. Take a casual date approach. Basically put, this would be hanging out as "just friends". But not really. No need to put labels on it for the most part. This would be something like "Hey, I know this place (insert game arcade, or movie or something simple). Sound like you'd want to go?"
Of course it's a date. It's noticeable to anyone. But it doesn't have the pressure of an outright date. And it could easily be pushed to a "just friends thing." And it's good to test the waters with.
3. Or you could just go with the outright date request. As in making it known it's a date.
Personally, I would think the casual friend date would be a better choice, as it would give both of you a chance to see if there really is a spark there. It also gives a chance to learn a little bit more about each other so that you can better plan the first real date if it happens and also not have to break the ice as much.
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Kalistean wrote...
1. Chat with her in class until you learn a little bit more about her. This could be a good place to casually see if she is involved. Of course this can also take time, time that could take her off the field from you.I think you should do this. It gives you a chance to get a feel for her first to see if you are truly compatible. Don't rush into a relationship without getting to know as much as you can about her. Also this way you can find out if she is dating someone else in a subtle fashion. Good Luck!!!
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Get to know her more.
What did you say before getting her number? Did you say it was for homework help and such? Then start texting about homework, but slowly drift into normal friend talk. Get to know her more.
What did you say before getting her number? Did you say it was for homework help and such? Then start texting about homework, but slowly drift into normal friend talk. Get to know her more.
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Nekohime wrote...
Yeah, the friends first thing is good. Test the waters, so to speak. Just be there for her as her classmate/study buddy/friend, and see where it goes from there.Errrr..I agree with this but he said "dreaded friend zone" Is this bad neko~? D:.
@Gambler You got her number and have been in the same class for a bit so technically your kinda sorta friends~:L Why don't you just start out as that but look at it as getting to know her~? Wouldn't it be weird if you started dating someone you dont know anything about~? :x. At some point after awhile of talks and such, then find the right moment! :D. Unless your looking for a deadline sorta thing errr....I really have no clue. Sorry...x.x;.
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GoodDay wrote...
What did you say before getting her number? Did you say it was for homework help and such? Then start texting about homework, but slowly drift into normal friend talk. Get to know her more.
Apart from work, I did ask if I can text her for other non-work related matters and she said it is all right.
koko7 wrote...
@Gambler You got her number and have been in the same class for a bit so technically your kinda sorta friends~:L Why don't you just start out as that but look at it as getting to know her~? Wouldn't it be weird if you started dating someone you dont know anything about~? :x. At some point after awhile of talks and such, then find the right moment! :D. Unless your looking for a deadline sorta thing errr....I really have no clue. Sorry...x.x;.Like what everyone has suggested, I will definitely try and speak to her a lot more. Pushing foward too aggressively might scare the other party off. Unfortunately, there may be times when I am unsure of my actions, since I am kinda nervous and anxious at the same time. In addition, I will also try my luck at asking her out on a casual date, perhaps to have a simple meal or something along those lines.
If I did not remember wrongly, there should be some off-days for both of us next week. Good opportunity?
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Aai
FAKKU Ass Master
Gambler wrote...
If I did not remember wrongly, there should be some off-days for both of us next week. Good opportunity?Good opportunity yes, but whether you should ask her out on a casual date is up to you.
If you are going to ask her out to lunch or something, good luck. (:
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Takerial
Lovable Teddy Bear
Yes, a day activity would definitely be a good casual choice. Something like a lunch after something that is innocent, like book shopping, would be a good approach because it's not outright a date so it's not as likely to scare someone off.
Not to mention that more casual setting would likely loosen both of you up and get you on different topics than you would in the classroom.
Not to mention that more casual setting would likely loosen both of you up and get you on different topics than you would in the classroom.
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gizgal wrote...
Study buddies: best way to get more info. If she's in a relationship, you'll find out, if she's interested in being friends, more than friends, etc.Just by starting as peers is a good way to work your way up.
This is a very realistic approach. But personally I never thought it was good to beat around the bush.
An easy way to get her number would be to ask her if she want to go somewhere after class. Because you are going to meet up later, it gives you a perfect excuse for when getting her number (i.e. "Hey can I get your number and I'll call or text you about it later?). It doesn't have to be a date either, just ask to go to a restaurant for lunch, tell her you'll meet her there and ask for her number just in case you need to call her.
And don't worry about looks. Just try to be presentable and after that just remember that sexy is an attitude more than appearance.
And if you need something to talk about, read up on some pop culture or read a site like cracked.com for some crazy facts and silly true stories. I always have a crazy story about something stored away in the back of my head in case I need a conversation device.
Example: I was in an awkward silence with some friends of my friends. We never meet before, so there wasn't much to say. I had a bit of a conversation started saved up though for this occasion, "Hey guys, did you know that there is 6 oceans in the world? I know there is the pacific, Atlantic, Indian, arctic, and southern... but we were talking about this earlier and we can't remember what the last one was..."
We came up with some pretty outrageous names for an ocean that day.
Or you can ask her if she would fuck or fight her clone.
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Not sure if anyone cares, but here is some negative update from myself:
I asked if she is willing to revise and complete some homework at the local library, but unfortunately, I was turned down, albeit in a polite manner, since she mentioned she already has some plans with her friend(s).
Unfortunately, I did make the mistake of asking her over text, which some of you, especially, Aai, advised against. However, I shouldn't give up after a single setback... right? Maybe I should attempt to be straightforward and ask her out for a meal the next time I try. T_T
I asked if she is willing to revise and complete some homework at the local library, but unfortunately, I was turned down, albeit in a polite manner, since she mentioned she already has some plans with her friend(s).
Unfortunately, I did make the mistake of asking her over text, which some of you, especially, Aai, advised against. However, I shouldn't give up after a single setback... right? Maybe I should attempt to be straightforward and ask her out for a meal the next time I try. T_T
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Waar
FAKKU Moderator
in a few days just ask her out; it's not like you'll die if she says no. If her answer is no followed by "but we're still friends right" say yes but avoid talking to her from that point on unless you want to pine after her in the friends zone for a while.
I dont think any of us have any idea if you're in her league due to the fact that you avoided posting images of yourself or the girl.
From what Ive seen from your story she has thus far only shown that she is open to being friends, nothing more. I think you should simply "bite the bullet" and go for it, it will only sting for a moment if you take a shot early.
I dont think any of us have any idea if you're in her league due to the fact that you avoided posting images of yourself or the girl.
From what Ive seen from your story she has thus far only shown that she is open to being friends, nothing more. I think you should simply "bite the bullet" and go for it, it will only sting for a moment if you take a shot early.
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Takerial
Lovable Teddy Bear
Gambler wrote...
Not sure if anyone cares, but here is some negative update from myself:I asked if she is willing to revise and complete some homework at the local library, but unfortunately, I was turned down, albeit in a polite manner, since she mentioned she already has some plans with her friend(s).
Unfortunately, I did make the mistake of asking her over text, which some of you, especially, Aai, advised against. However, I shouldn't give up after a single setback... right? Maybe I should attempt to be straightforward and ask her out for a meal the next time I try. T_T
It's not necessarily the end of the world. She might have really already had plans. Of course if she didn't, then it would be a bad sign.
The main thing in this case would be try and not to dwell on it too much. Dwelling on it can make you seem really desperate.
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Just ask her out. If you don't, someone else will.
Time to come up with a plan of attack
Never, I say NEVER do that. It shows lack of confidence and is bound to go wrong unless you have the gift of clairvoyance. Just be confident and spontanious. If it goes well, good for you. If not, just go to the next girl you'll like and remember that there is no succes without failure.
Never ask a woman to do something, the chip in her head will compell her to ditch you. Don't say:" Wanna go to the library?". Say:" Let's go to the library.". If you insist a bit and she still refuses, either let it be or find an alternative that might spark her interest. Also, if you have any other girl friends and want something to work in your favor, hang out with them and make her see you. That will spark a slight interest for you, since she'll probably feel like she has competition (if she is into you, in the slightest).
To sum it up, just be yourself, relax, say whateer comes to mind regardless of how awkward it may sound. Most importantly, don't care so much about the outcome. Ironically, this has a chance to increase your... chances.
neko-chan wrote...
You should practice what you're going to say. Time to come up with a plan of attack
Never, I say NEVER do that. It shows lack of confidence and is bound to go wrong unless you have the gift of clairvoyance. Just be confident and spontanious. If it goes well, good for you. If not, just go to the next girl you'll like and remember that there is no succes without failure.
Gambler wrote...
I asked if she is willing to revise and complete some homework at the local library, but unfortunately, I was turned down, albeit in a polite manner, since she mentioned she already has some plans with her friend(s).Never ask a woman to do something, the chip in her head will compell her to ditch you. Don't say:" Wanna go to the library?". Say:" Let's go to the library.". If you insist a bit and she still refuses, either let it be or find an alternative that might spark her interest. Also, if you have any other girl friends and want something to work in your favor, hang out with them and make her see you. That will spark a slight interest for you, since she'll probably feel like she has competition (if she is into you, in the slightest).
To sum it up, just be yourself, relax, say whateer comes to mind regardless of how awkward it may sound. Most importantly, don't care so much about the outcome. Ironically, this has a chance to increase your... chances.
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neko-chan wrote...
You should practice what you're going to say. Time to come up with a plan of attack.
I'd say not to practice "word-for-word", but maybe some good ways to begin a convo. Once you get going, it's easier to think on your feet.
Don't plan out a monologue, because you'll be engaged in a dialogue. ;D
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Aai
FAKKU Ass Master
Planning doesn't always work, practicing lines is dumb, say what you feel is right, confidence will rule out if she wants to be your friend or not.
Yes it is best not to dwell on something like this, a lot of chances later on.
Yes it is best not to dwell on something like this, a lot of chances later on.
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Sing Sing wrote...
So, am I the only one wondering how this went? I will not go into the details, but the following would be a summary of events which happened before and after Fakku went down:
- I managed to get her mobile number.
- Coincidentally, I got to know her birthday so I bought her a card and present.
- I got rejected another time, which I made the mistake of asking over message again.
- However, I am not going to give up due to some minor setbacks. I believe my sincerity (not to the extent of being stalker-ish) will reach her eventually.
Hopefully, things will turn out well over time. There is a possibility that I may seek even more advice from everyone, which I thank and apologize in advance.