[Locked] Gambler's Appeal to All Fakku Members

In relation to TheOtaku's "To the old Fakku!" thread, as well as in light of the recent "events" on Fakku, I am compelled to start a long post on how we can improve the community, bringing back what some would call the good old days, or simply creating a better environment for all.

Compared to some of the members on Fakku, I may not have been around for a very long time and my words may not hold much weight, but I do sincerely hope that all of us can work towards the development of a better Fakku, at least in the aspect of forum culture.

Well then, let me start off by quoting some of the members and their opinions on the current situation:







Indeed, I agree that the atmosphere is getting a little hostile, not only between regular members, but also towards the newer participants of our community. There are many a times where new topics are created without much thought or effort, resulting in repeat threads, them appearing in the wrong section, or simply awaiting to be flamed, which I am strongly against. As Elites and Elders of the community, all of you have the right to point these newbies in the right direction, though some of your methods may be less than desirable. Phrasing your words to make them sound sincerely helpful and less arrogant can have a profound effect on others. All of us started off as a newbie at one point or another, hoping to gain acceptance from others; hearing kinds words will increase the probability of one continuing to engage the various discussions, while harsh replies may result in a new user leaving forever. The same concept applies in reality, where customer service is important in attracting potential customers.

Like I have mentioned in the past, there are bound to be users on the internet whom we dislike, where their very words and actions get on our nerves. However, that does not provide any valid reason for one to insult these users or bait them into starting a heated argument. I urge all Fakku members to think twice before posting and if one does not have any constructive comments to add to a particular discussion, then don't. Walking away from trolls can be the best solution for all parties, even the bystanders.

Now that I am on topic, I might as well address the others issues I have on mind, one of which would be the way some of you come up with replies. Some of you may already know that I am not a big supporter of single word replies, much less those containing just a quote from another member. If you don't get what I mean, the following would be an example:



I don't think it will take up much time for any of you to come up with a single sentence stating your opinion on the matter, instead of the above. A simple "This^", "QFT", "I agree", etc, does not help much either. Yes, it is difficult to change one's habit, much less a subculture on the forum, but we have to start somewhere. In the very least, it will make the forum appear less spammy.

I am pretty sure there is a lot more I wish to talk about, but it is getting late. If I do have some time over the next few days, I may add on to what I have already said, but for now, I appeal to all Fakku members to work together in making our forum a better place for all.

To end off, I shall leave all of you with a couple of hentai images, which is always related.



P.S. Even though some of us may get de-repped occasionally, I wouldn't bear to see any of you leave the community, especially the regular members. Your respective opinions and experience can go a long way to improving things around here.

Edit: Added colour, with recommendation from Rengo, to emphasize the key points of my post. :)

you know the good old days were nice (even tho i didnt see much of it)
btw i was expecting colour in you thread gambler

Yes, it would be real nice and a great improvement if we could leave the events of drama february(I declared it drama month) behind.

Thank you for pointing it out. Maybe people will be more willing to take advice from a mod if not a regular user.

It's a good point and we should all try to follow it, but I doubt everyone will.

Now that you mention it, I do kind of feel that I've been getting a little uppity with the way I'm talking(?) these days...

I'll have to keep a close eye on that from now on. -_-

I actually concur with you Gambler, it is not that the forums are going down hill it's that we are letting them do so. People will take what they see and interpret it how they see fit. That is human nature. There are those who wish to cause strife, those who could care less and those who cannot see the good.

I'm one of those who cannot see the good, no matter how innocent ones intentions may be. If there is any ill will directed I will pick it up. Thus the light of recent arguments that I had voiced my opinion and sole opinion on, is a prime example, of this. When something is directed to a broad general audience, and one person takes it upon themselves to act as though it is directed at them then it is becomes so.

This is a problem, that will never be solved, unless people post a TL;DR explanation along with it.

As for one word post and Quoting of a Quote of another Quote, yes that can get annoying. But that's why we have the IB. If you like to spam stay in the IB.

This looks like a good way to go.

EDIT: clicked submit by accident -_-

though the expected results from this might not happen, we shall see how things go from here

Yeah - I think people (me included perhaps) should ease up a little.
It's not that 20 years passed since those 'good old days' nor did every user who provided fun/quality back then drop dead or something (just a few).

Thx for the push Gambler.

the unfortunate truth is that given the fact that the internet allows total anonymity, people are given the leeway to be complete and total assholes. The important thing to do if you want to do something to stop people from being dicks then you need to be the better man (or woman, let's to let sexism taint this). don't let yourself get dragged into a flame war, those don't end well for anyone, and all that ends up happening is a thread gets spammed beyond recognition, the only way to win is not to play. I you do disagree with someone's point, it happens you need to be able to respect the other persons opinion and CALMLY explain your point.

oowww colours nice

thanks gambler +rep

@Gambler

You're quite aware of how I DO things right? :wink:

I'm pretty much in agreement with everything you've pointed out. But everything still comes down to us, USERS alike, if we'd really want to mend our ways - for the better.

I couldn't help it though but be disappointed with most of our active users today whose lacking in self-awareness regarding certain rules and issues that this community clearly has given.

I sincerely hope that this thread can serve its purpose...
Wouldn't it be better if this thread can somehow get sticky-d. :D

Now that Gambler mentions it, I do feel like being a troll nowadays. :?
Must be the atmosphere? I think it's contagious. :o

Gambler is doin it rite.

Right. I think I caused enough drama for an entire month versus only 2 days. I'd really like to see Fakku improve, and I'd work on improving myself as well.

Though I think that not only do the users need to improve, I think the Fakku rules need to be enforced a bit more until people really get the gist of it. Sorta like swatting a dog with a newspaper and saying no. :roll: That sounds terrible, but if a person can get away with any behavior, then they'll continue to do so. Being told no or a little swat on the nose will remind them and maybe they'll think twice before doing so.

Fakku was very pleasant when I joined. Somewhere down the line it just changed. Several times it occurred to me that I should just quit, but figured it wasn't worth letting a few people ruin what I enjoyed about Fakku as a whole.

In the end though, it's very plausible and I think everyone can do it, myself included.

Quoted and repped on the same comment...That's a new one for me. I guess someone is going to take my challenge and step up to try and change things around here. Thank you very much Gambler. I hope this is a wake-up call for everyone.

+rep man, and good luck.

I don't ever visit the forums for some of these very reasons. I talk to the same people that are nice, respectable, and funny and that's it.
Since I got here the forums just have gone downhill and it's mostly our fault.

Anyway, thanks to the people who are still awesome on here. ^^ You know who you are, RS'sers!!!!!

I think that giving troublemakers warnings or small punishments will get them to straighten up or leave cause they don't wanna deal with it. Either way, it's a win win for respectable members. :)

I joined the forums beginning of February so I have no idea of how it was really like in the good old day veteran users describe but I'm sure it was a nice and peaceful time, like the Golden Age I assume. Anyhows I agree with Gambler that we should be more friendly with newbies and that if they do something wrong, kindly point it out to them because we all started as noobs when we first joined FAKKU. The reason why we know how things work now is because of experience we gained from hanging around. Or at least that's how I see it. I do sincerely hope that we all can get along better in the future.

as much as everyone is gushing over this thread I really believe this is hopeless optimism, as much users want this to happen it won't; not for good anyways, most likely scenario is that it gets better for a short period of time but as more users join and our community grows we will continue to attract unwanted attention. I can't help but feel that this thread is simply idealism at it's grandest and most unlikely. I understand what your point is, but i'm not going to change who I am (even if i could) because you want me to be "nicer", I don't believe it will change anything. As forums or communities get bigger they will always attract a wider range of people; if you believe I'm the worst of the worst then you will probably not enjoy the future here as I can guarantee more will come, unless mods take action. There is always that balance between freedom and moderation, how can we make fakku a free place, a place to spread opinions and say whatever we want while removing the dangerous threads and people by moderation?