[Locked] Grow up.

I honestly mean no offense but, people have been complaining about these very problems for months only to be ignored. Nothing has changed and honestly, just like Whitelion I have very little faith that any positive change will occur.

I don't think "talking to" is really the answer. People should be made public spectacle that they did something wrong so others can learn from their mistakes.

I fucking agree. I know I could be made into a spectacle because of things I've done in the past, but I honestly think that if it helps the forums become better, I'd be willing to take that hit.

hah, you know the staff wont do that and you also know that when one of us does it we become the social pariah in front of everyone. Face it, no one is willing to talk and those of us who do are hated for it.

I really dont think Moderation is the answer unless its spamming. Its a community problem and we should solve this ourselves. Mods or admins just cracking down more sounds more like a false peace.

We've tried. And failed. Repeatedly.



The mods and admins are the only ones who are equipped to do this.

We didnt try everything. Im getting together a few members to talk on skype over a these issues together. Voice gives more feeling and emotion which will help us understand each other better. I think that most of this is misunderstanding so I think this will help.

Alot of people are good with the idea of this so I think we should try first.

Well, that happens everywhere, such as in real life, in IRC, on these forums, and others. I don't think complaining about it will change everything.

Alright, let me break it down for you.

You left Skype because there was some tension. That's cool.

You post about it every chance you get, in the forums. This is what I don't get. By doing this, aren't you creating the drama you abhor so much?

WhiteLion, you deserve way more rep than you have. Seriously, you should be in the top five most repped people, and instead you're below twenty-five. That saddens me. (That doesn't add to this topic at all, but I felt it needed to be said. WhiteLion deserves some major fucking respect, if not for the things he says [which some people may not agree with], then for the way he says it.)



The community has tried a lot to fix these problems. There have been numerous threads about how the forums have been shitty, how users have been shitty, and how rule enforcement has been shitty. None of them amounted to much. I have to agree that moderation is the only thing that can possibly fix this. When a regular user makes a thread, people can tell themselves, "That person is an idiot, I don't have to listen to him/her." But when a mod or admin makes a thread or announcement, people have to show some amount of respect (because these are the people in charge). The people who are unwillingly to show respect or listen to the mod/admin are the people who should probably leave Fakku.

Not to say that the mods or admins are always right. It's just that if Jacob or Raze or Nikon said, "No personal attacks on other users, whatsoever," that is a rule being handed down from the highest power (on this site). If a user cannot obey the highest power, then he/she should leave. Just like how if I think that the US government is complete shit and all its laws are asinine, I should leave the US. If I don't, I'll just be breaking the rules and end up causing trouble for myself and others.

As for talking on Skype, it's important to remember that not everyone on the forums uses Skype or has the ability to use it. A few people talking there and coming to a solution is not the same as the majority of the forums talking and coming to a conclusion. Same goes with IRC, chatroll, and anything else. The forums are the forums, and Skype is Skype. Even if a hundred people from the forums go onto Skype and decide on some plan of action, to the people who use only the forums, it's going to seem like they didn't get a say in the matter.

Not sure if that makes a lot of sense, but my point is, if there's a problem with the forums, it should be discussed on the forums. Hearing "We talked about this on Skype" can make it sound like the people who use Skype are members of their own little club or clique.

Since I ranted the most on the elitist topic, I think it's a perversion at me. I sure do looked like a sucker after I replied on the elitist topic, I did it even though I know that will happen because I thought people will look more to my reason but I think looking like a sucker has more effect. Good thing he used "boy", reminded me that I got so much things to understand, example, I can't defeat cunning normally, I do sort of an anime hotblood rant against it, I thought it's attractive and reasonable at the same time to be excused but it just made my opponents get taunted then spread rumors about me and I can't fight it. Ramsus sure scare quite a variety of guys here.



Well, one thing I did not do is read forum rules, but Admin do sure made a good job putting rules link into the post page. I guess because of that, rulebreakers has less excuse for it. Maybe they should use warnings.

I think that was actually directed at me since Ramsus and I have had a long chat (which had to be taken to IRC) about elitism in Fakku before.

Oh, but I sure did fucked with elitism. But I also sure haven't argued with Ramsus.

BTW, now I think elitism is one sided, not crediting that commoners contributed alot by following and giving glory or else elites would be not as great. One sample of bad elitism is from Code Geass R2, chinese side. But it looks unsimulated.

I guess I'd like an elitism that cares about commoners too. And I'd like to tell that being a commoner is low prided but can enjoy life with less burden. Y'know, even tyrants hafta get guards most of the time too.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Oh that's funny...
I do enjoy trolling IRC - that won't stop anytime soon. I think the forums are beyond help, to many 4chaners, spammers & BS posts (Much like this one). The admins do need to ban more people, "-See Previous Reason-".
Tegumi is awesome, TMS is awesome - keep up the great work, Waar is pretty awesome.

not sure what skype has to do with anything, the people who use it don't do so to create laws or rules for the forums... we simply discuss topics on our minds, which sometimes include the forums. The fact that some of the staff join us from time to time (it is fairly rare) doesn't mean anything other than they like to be treated like regular members at times as well. What made you believe we skype members/ the fakku staff made decisions in skype?