[Locked] Grow up.

Real bros tell bros how to kill themselves.

I had to reply to that. >_> We are. But I didn't know you had such a piss reputation.

^this post is somewhat dick

I don't have a piss reputation, there are only a handful of people that actually dislike me. Changing your opinion of someone because of what a few people think is not a cool thing to do.

^this post lacks grammatical sense

Not really, as of a few years ago dick has been used as an adjective.

No, dude, my opinion hasn't changed. We're still friends. I just said I didn't know that people thought that. I didn't say we WERE, I said we still ARE.

I think we spoke in IRC as well Joe... if any one ignored you in IRC is was probably due to the fact that the people talking were in a heated conversation with each other or no one was around to respond.

Edible, stop posting here if you don't have anything worth saying.

I kinda have to agree with Joe, IRC can sometimes be just a dickish as the forums can be. This is probably because of certain people being dicks in both places. As for being ignored, I have no idea how long you were around. In IRC it takes a while for anyone to take anyone new seriously just because we've seen so many people come and go. Otherwise you easily could have just had unlucky timing. But obviously IRC isn't for everyone or we wouldn't have CR and other things.

You talk about kissing ass and sucking up an awful lot, and after seeing you admit to partaking in it yourself I can't help but wonder if this is all some kind of self-hate that you're trying to project onto everyone else. I mean, if you post something interesting people will reply. And even if there are cliques and elitests there will always be fellow nublets, so you can't victimize yourself too much.

As for IRC, speaking from experience, it's not all that difficult to strike up a conversation. Granted, I've only been in there half a dozen times, but still - I'm a bigger nobody than you are.

Overall, I think you're suffering from a lot of suppressed rage. And when you're really angry it can make a person see things irrationally and that leads to them blowing matters way out of proportion.

Because obviously IRC is big enough for everyone. You want three conversations going on at the same time?

More than half of the posts in this thread are exactly like Edible's. All you've done here is created a mindless controversy that no one will get over for a long, long time. I realize you're trying to help the forums and all, but you fucked up. I'm not attacking you directly; however, I am being honest. This will not go back on topic easily, as it's already veered off to, again, peoples own opinions. All you're going to see from now on, like most controversial and dramatic threads, is people defending their own egos and other retarded shit like that. I'm glad that you, among many people, have come to realize the faults that are at hand. However, like with most social and "political"(It seems Fakku! does have it's own political system.) they can't be diffused directly.

God, where to start?

Guess I'll just start at the beginning...

@Ramsus; I agree with mostly everything you've said, the way people act on, not just Fakku, but the internet as a whole is sickening. I'm not so uptight that I don't like to have a bit of fun, post a silly picture here, watch a silly video there, but when it's done in excess, or rather "trolling", it just gets fucking annoying.

The sole reason I joined Fakku was that I saw there was some rather interesting people floating around, and I was hoping for conversation. However when people act as stupid as they sometimes do, chatting about anything is impossible. You know what the saddest part about it all is? Idiocy on the internet is always going to exist, but Fakku is an adult site, wouldn't it make sense the members behaved like adults?

On another note, not everyone who disagrees with you is a troll... like Ramsus said about TMS & Waar, I've often seen people accusing others of being a troll when it just doesn't apply. I know trolling, it's stupid as hell, but someone who is forming a structured response with their opinions who just happens to be counter to you is not necessarily trolling you. While being a dick on the internet may be annoying, you people need to get a bit thicker skin and get the fuck over it sometimes. I wish being called an idiot was my only problem in life.

Moving right along, new people will always break rules, no matter what you say it will happen, people are lazy, and that's just the fact of the matter. Now what I think is people should stop getting so mad over new users breaking rules. Now when I say this I don't mean that we let them get away with everything, but the little things can slide, can't they? When a user makes a post in the wrong section, don't bite his/her head off, point them in the right direction, and remind them there is a rules posting for next time. If there is one thing I've learned running large-based communities, it is that people respond far more to kindness than they do from animosity.

As for the rest I could respond on them, but I'm just not that interested in the rest, I don't know Tegumi enough to followup, I've not seen Hibia bitch, and as for admins, I've not really seen them ban people with silly reasons, however I would agree to let the simple shit slide and concentrate on the people who are causing the most trouble.

@Joe-kun; I don't understand what you mean when you say this forum is intimidating. I mean, I understand it I suppose, but I just don't get how. When I came to Fakku, I was a complete outsider, no one knew me, hell half probably still don't know me, but I was never intimidated. Sure some people were complete dicks to me, but it's the internet what do you expect? I never kissed ass, in the beginning I hardly went on IRC, though I go on it a bit now... You can ask anyone who knows of me though, I would never hold my tongue and not express my opinions.

So basically what I'm trying to figure out is, how is it a problem? Dicks are dicks, they'll be dicks, and they're everywhere I don't think it's that bad.

As for IRC, you're right it's not better, infact in some cases it is worse, sometimes I can't even get into a conversation because it's non-stop spam. As for getting ignored, I'm sure it was because something was going on, or you hardly said anything, because from what I've seen NO ONE gets ignored in IRC, whether you're a troll or just a regular user.

@Crie; While what you say is probably true to an extent, I see no issue with someone expressing their opinions. No matter WHAT you say anytime, there will be an opposing view somewhere, and the idea that someone should keep those opinions to themselves for fear of the responses is silly. As for people who are protecting their ego, well they're just proof that this thread is valid.

I'm too lazy to read the other posts in this thread those were just a few I managed to catch a glance at.

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Oh and, I think Waar & TMS are fine people. Though a bit silly at times, they seem to be instigated a lot by people who don't like them, and while you make the point that they are this and that. You are causing it.

One other note, I do believe this contributed to the forums as it got people thinking, that's always good.

Oh and one more thing, come on IRC right now Joe, I'll talk to you so much you never want to come to a chatroom again.

I am fining this thread for faggotry.

You all now owe me 7 dollars.

Do you accept little sisters?

i don't think im in this list at all....yay :D

wow that toke balls to say and type all that. well I agree on the trolls and some other things but hell I am glad i am not on that list.

Tranq, I enjoyed your post quite a bit and I do believe most if not all of it was on point. I did want to clarify, that I enjoy the hate (even if i complain; we all do it about something), I enjoy defending myself, I especially love proving my points right and others wrong; so when I have someone who has a major hard on for me (as some have had in this very thread) it just spurs me on(which I believe was your original point). I may have changed the way I argue and deal with people now but it doesn't change the fact that I enjoy any challenge.

So to anyone who dislikes me in any way, I do want you to continue to challenge me openly, I look forward to the day that we meet on this battlefield as long as we do so in a respectful and civilized manner(dereping is barbaric and emotional).

In that case I challenge you to a gentleman's duel. We're doing this 17th century style, parking lot 3 o'clock, fist fight to the death.

@Waar; while it is good that you don't let the childish banter get to you, I still think that people should not talk to you that way, or about you that way. I'm a firm believer in being civil, if I don't like someone, they know it without me calling them names.

Furthermore despite popular belief it IS possible to disagree with someone without insulting them...

Although I can see why you would enjoy the rush of a heated argument, they're a lot of fun, as long as they do stay civil.