Gundam Vs Macross

a thing to mention just using a zentraedi fleet on the world of gundam will bring a havoc you'll have never seen before . so sending 2 fleet will be the end of zyon and other colonies in one day .not to mention the lack of speed and maniabilities of gundams from all series nd their lack of range weapons. i explain clearly yf normal range weapon must be 10 km range missile if not more gundam are close range weapon users and rifle 5km for rifle i see a huge difference on the style and capacities.avoiding a wave of 10 missiles will be hard for a gundam and for the yf avoiding a rifle or laser from gundam will be a piece of cake.

Gundam,I can see some teamwork.

another gundam fandom, see that gundam pilot are sissy and that the weapon they use are quite powerfull but not absolute mass destruction weapon. ass a macross canon shot could be . have you ever played to armored core if yes you will knew that armor and funnel will not be enought when your opponent is 10 times faster than you and shoot from the back.

Referencing each post that previously stated a valid point is far too difficult to do since I'm using my PS3 here, so I'll skip that altogether and get straight to it. I would like to add, though, that this isn't just a Gundam versus Valkyrie battle, but an all-out, universe versus universe war; even cannon fodder like Leos and Zakus will be involved.

Firepower (per unit) Advantage: Gundam
Everybody knows that Gundams are ridiculously overpowered. The titular or central suits tend to carry the firepower of hundreds of that series' more common mechs, which is what constantly allows just a handful of Gundams to face innumerable enemies and still emerge victorious. While the valkyries are also well-equipped, there's no one model that could stand up to, say, Strike Freedom, on its own.

Manuverability Advantage: Macross
While there are a handful of examples of very "mobile" mobile suits, the vast majority are on a level that would be analagous to a sitting duck for even the earliest model Valkyries. Funnels are the most mobile weapons in the Gundam metaverse, but I have no doubt in my mind that a non-crazy Macross Plus prototype (too much work to look up the name right now) could dispatch with dozens of funnels at a time: not hindered by a pilot's G-force limitations, an autonomous Valkyrie like that could wreak havoc on the rank-and-file units of Gundam before it even took a scratch. Ground battles are just that for Zakus, Leos, and other such land-bound suits, which make them easy targets for the ground-to-air-and-back Valkyries.

Technology Advantage: ?
I'd like to say Gundam has the advantage here, but I'm not so sure I can. Although the technology built into each mobile suit is more advanced than that built into each Valkyrie (on a general basis), the technology that goes into each group's capital ships more than tips the scales. From folding space to being mobile colonies to artificial gravity, Macross' ships are considerably more advanced (to say nothing of the weapons, which I'm purposely omitting here) than what the standout ships of Gundam are capable of.

Numberical Advantage: Macross
As has been previously stated by others, the sheer number of available troops for Macross is a staggering advantage over Gundam, even when combining all of the Gundam metaseries. Valkyries are also cheaper to manufacture, given they require no special metals or elements, and make even average pilots look good once that Itano Circus (that contrail-laden missile spam we all know and love) starts.

Tactical Advantage: Macross
Although this is based largely on the aforementioned advantages, it should still be noted individually. The ability to fold space and warp large amounts of your fighting force to virtually anywhere is a large advantage. I've read that some Gundam or another is capable of doing something similar, but that's just one suit, as opposed to the potential for every individual Valkyrie and warship in Macross to do the same. What good is a weapon that can reach from Earth to Jupiter when your target simply leaves the solar system altogether? And what good are defenses when your enemy can warp directly into your formation (dangerous as this inherently is)? Add to this superior numbers and not-often-enough-matched mobility (and the free use of nuclear weapons), and even the best military minds of Gundam would be hard-pressed to achieve victory. Victory that becomes all but impossible when the previously mentioned (by others, not myself) issue of shooting down colonies full of innocent civilians arises.

Special Individual Advantage: Gundam?
Newtypes, Coordinators, Innovators... there may not be a whole lot of any of these groups, but we've all seen their value on the battlefield. In comparison, Macross offerrs only its handful of musicians, and as someone earlier noted, they don't seem to be effective on everyone.... except that maybe they're most effective on Newtypes, Coordinators, and Innovators. And while it may not do much to the average Gundam soldier on its own, just imagine what could happen if Ranka started singing after Setsuna did his "mind connect" thing..

ah, no. macross class ships are the largest capitol ships that has enough firepower to destory planets with it's main cannon. also carries 1000+ Valkyrie mechs and other fighters, and can dimension fold. it's not called macross class super dimensional fortress for nothing.

if you pit the macross universe against the gundam one, the macross can just dimension fold in, destory earth and the space colonies and win. since the population in the macross universe is spread out in colonize ships and planets, simply destroying earth will not do much. gundam units may be powerful, but there's no way it can take down macross class battleships.

... but what does any of that have to do with which universe (or metaverse, in the case of Gundam) would win?