Melee preferences
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I wanna be able to do this... IRL... yeah that's right, look at me weird... <__<...
Ahh.. yamazaki, awesome chara...
Ahh.. yamazaki, awesome chara...
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@zeKer_pencil: very true with your analysis of the nodachi/claymore. I figured out that the sword that the Spartans used was the Xiphos, with the same exact intent/design of that of a gladius, hence the interchangability.
@The Jesus: A bokken, jo, or even a shinai are good melee weapons if you only care about disarming and wounding the opponent. I guess most of us thought of this as a life-or-death situation where melee weapons with the ability to kill would be more of an advantage.
@The Jesus: A bokken, jo, or even a shinai are good melee weapons if you only care about disarming and wounding the opponent. I guess most of us thought of this as a life-or-death situation where melee weapons with the ability to kill would be more of an advantage.
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g-money wrote...
@zeKer_pencil: very true with your analysis of the nodachi/claymore. I figured out that the sword that the Spartans used was the Xiphos, with the same exact intent/design of that of a gladius, hence the interchangability. @The Jesus: A bokken, jo, or even a shinai are good melee weapons if you only care about disarming and wounding the opponent. I guess most of us thought of this as a life-or-death situation where melee weapons with the ability to kill would be more of an advantage.
ya mean like in the film 300? that blade is something worth remembering for. do ya know the reason why the spartans use big round shields when their hoplite unit (close quarter guys) attacks? its because of the xiphos is so concealable in the big round shield like their roman counterparts, the legionnaires, the opponent cannot strike at you directly and yo can attack from any of the eight sides directly... unlike the gladius, the xiphos has more weight than the gladius, hereby making the slash to really be close do dismemberment or decapitation
and thanks, because i recently knew this about big blades:
most double handed great swords are often mistaken for the scottish highland claymore (which is the real deal)... the claymore's first use was in clan wars, where bigger blades were considered to be valued (i think)...
those might be bigger version of the knight's arming sword or a very large falchion....
@the jesus: mushashi only used a bokken carved out of his oar to fight against Kojiro at an island where they agreed to meet and musashi won. but note to the people... the sword kojiro was very deadly was a nodachi... dunno how the hell did he wield it or used some kenjutsu, but hell i was impressed by his skill with that heavy blade... dont underestimate a stick because a stick alone can cause damage that makes you unable to wield a melee weapon anymore, or its used for joint locks...
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Well, for practical use i would use something im good with like a knife or something. Otherwise i would just use a club or something blunt.
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something blunt can cause pain but not sudden death.... something sharp can cause pain AND sudden death...
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Kuroneko1/2 wrote...
I want me a big ass feather-weight sword like Cloud's.Spoiler:
Cloud's sword is effective because it's fucking HEAVY. If a sword that size was light, it would be the most inefficient thing on the face of the planet.
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If I was forced into melee combat I would use a titanium police side handle baton in one hand and a good ol billy club in the other. Nothing flash. good defense and offense.
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a police baton isnt effective on its own... why? because it might break (if wood) or bend (if metallic)... most anti-riot police squads use them to quell revolting, rallying or rioting masses...
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zeKer_pencil wrote...
a police baton isnt effective on its own... why? because it might break (if wood) or bend (if metallic)... most anti-riot police squads use them to quell revolting, rallying or rioting masses...I've never heard of police metal batons/tonfas bending at all. Most wooden objects don't break as easily as you think either.
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a poorly made tonfa/police baton will break if poorly made.... if its over its limit such as the tension of the stick will wane, well what can you expect? heard from some guys that their wood batons broke when quelling a massing protesters... it seemed like cs gas, sting, flashbangs, tear gas and stun grenades wont work anymore... such a sad thing... because police nowadays want to answer with riot shields, batons and a lot of bruises... hehehe....
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Klorofolun wrote...
Kuroneko1/2 wrote...
I want me a big ass feather-weight sword like Cloud's.Spoiler:
Cloud's sword is effective because it's fucking HEAVY. If a sword that size was light, it would be the most inefficient thing on the face of the planet.
Heck, I don't care about effectiveness, it looks cool. xD
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Would depend on what i was fighting If i was say fighting a bear warhammer hands down a human swords dual wield to be specific it's my specialty. Scythe works as well. Really though Swords two of em no three two on my sdes and one on my back for emergecies.
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I find dual wielding two swords to be ineffective simply due to the fact that dual-wielding requires the ability to be ambidextrous (something I'm not quite). Also, unless the swords are very thin or short, dual-wielding two swords will tire out your muscles very fast. You biceps/triceps/deltoids/traps would have to be pretty developed to handle dual-wielding swords.
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g-money wrote...
I find dual wielding two swords to be ineffective simply due to the fact that dual-wielding requires the ability to be ambidextrous (something I'm not quite). Also, unless the swords are very thin or short, dual-wielding two swords will tire out your muscles very fast. You biceps/triceps/deltoids/traps would have to be pretty developed to handle dual-wielding swords.I wouldn't think the muscles are as big a deal as the technique that's going into using two swords effectively. You'd have two things to keep track of, for one, and you'd have to make sure you didn't lop off one of your own arms with a swing.
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Klorofolun wrote...
I wouldn't think the muscles are as big a deal as the technique that's going into using two swords effectively. You'd have two things to keep track of, for one, and you'd have to make sure you didn't lop off one of your own arms with a swing.That's why I said you'd have to be ambidextrous first. I found that if I moved one arm to swing, my left arm would follow the motion of my right. If the case was that I was equally dextrous in both hands, I can do free motion without having to worry about one arm following the other. Yes, I've tried it before with my carved wooden swords... least to say it wasn't easy as I though it would be, even if they were light.
edit: least to say it wasn't easy as I though it would be, even if they were light.
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g-money wrote...
Klorofolun wrote...
I wouldn't think the muscles are as big a deal as the technique that's going into using two swords effectively. You'd have two things to keep track of, for one, and you'd have to make sure you didn't lop off one of your own arms with a swing.That's why I said you'd have to be ambidextrous first. I found that if I moved one arm to swing, my left arm would follow the motion of my right. If the case was that I was equally dextrous in both hands, I can do free motion without having to worry about one arm following the other. Yes, I've tried it before with my carved wooden swords... least to say it was easy as I though it would be, even if they were light.
I practice with my training swords as well and i actually am quite good only i use two katanas about bastard sword legnth., Works well for me but i'm ususually strong for my height and weight (not to mentiopn general lack of exercise). Thing is i can not only keep track of em but am able to switch whether i;m holding them up or down with one hand so when sparring my friends don;t know wich hand will e used or wich type of attck one from a blade below or above. But then i AM amedextrous so i'm cool. Course not gonna use real ones till i perfect it.
My friend said i was pretty good he's a brown belt i think been so long well second to a blackbelt with weapon traning (unlike me all self taught) and i could beat him course his specialty was staves and he was using a shortsword but he was pretty good with taht as well. Funny thing the longer your blades the worse it is when fighting a short one. They get in close and you can't move right.

