Melee preferences
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g-money wrote...
Klorofolun wrote...
I wouldn't think the muscles are as big a deal as the technique that's going into using two swords effectively. You'd have two things to keep track of, for one, and you'd have to make sure you didn't lop off one of your own arms with a swing.That's why I said you'd have to be ambidextrous first. I found that if I moved one arm to swing, my left arm would follow the motion of my right. If the case was that I was equally dextrous in both hands, I can do free motion without having to worry about one arm following the other. Yes, I've tried it before with my carved wooden swords... least to say it was easy as I though it would be, even if they were light.
your right... but the big thing of twin sword handling is that your arms tire easily... it doesnt matter if you have so much stamina... i tried battling uncle with twin kodachis (because that old fart challenged me with his naginata) and failed because of things.... heres what i know if you are wielding two swords:
1) when handling twin blades, be sure to alternate left and right slashes. if you are not ambidextrous (which i really am), then use the weak hand for defense and the strong hand for offense.
2) dual blades can stop a single sword from slashing, but unlike sais they cant pull the sword out of the opponents hands.
3)if using irregular blades, the best thing you can do is hold the strong blade in your sriking arm and the weak blade in the shielding arm. in that way, when the opponent gets close to you, you dont have to worry about parrying the blade with the weak blade and striking once again...
thats what i know from my uncle...
and cloud's buster sword looks cool, but its really ineffective against versatile units (marauders, agile fighters and etc.)
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Sorrior wrote...
g-money wrote...
Klorofolun wrote...
I wouldn't think the muscles are as big a deal as the technique that's going into using two swords effectively. You'd have two things to keep track of, for one, and you'd have to make sure you didn't lop off one of your own arms with a swing.That's why I said you'd have to be ambidextrous first. I found that if I moved one arm to swing, my left arm would follow the motion of my right. If the case was that I was equally dextrous in both hands, I can do free motion without having to worry about one arm following the other. Yes, I've tried it before with my carved wooden swords... least to say it was easy as I though it would be, even if they were light.
I practice with my training swords as well and i actually am quite good only i use two katanas about bastard sword legnth., Works well for me but i'm ususually strong for my height and weight (not to mentiopn general lack of exercise). Thing is i can not only keep track of em but am able to switch whether i;m holding them up or down with one hand so when sparring my friends don;t know wich hand will e used or wich type of attck one from a blade below or above. But then i AM amedextrous so i'm cool. Course not gonna use real ones till i perfect it.
My friend said i was pretty good he's a brown belt i think been so long well second to a blackbelt with weapon traning (unlike me all self taught) and i could beat him course his specialty was staves and he was using a shortsword but he was pretty good with taht as well. Funny thing the longer your blades the worse it is when fighting a short one. They get in close and you can't move right.
aint that the freakin truth.... i once fought my cousin who likes to use a kusarigama (I FREAKIN HATE THAT CHAIN AND SICKLE WEAPON!) and i would always prefer a nodachi.... the thing is that he would always bind my hand holding the sword with the chain and close in for the kill using the sickle, and just to note, its so heavy that i cant always get a clean slice... my uncle used a similar tactic but only bound my sword and strangled me with the chain....
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i would prefer the sword because of it's mobility
but as said before it isn't good in close quarters combat
that's why I would have a second shorter sword with me for this kind of situation
and pretty much because of the hard work and discipline you would need to have to properly use one
but as said before it isn't good in close quarters combat
that's why I would have a second shorter sword with me for this kind of situation
and pretty much because of the hard work and discipline you would need to have to properly use one
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Masahiro560 wrote...
i would prefer the sword because of it's mobilitybut as said before it isn't good in close quarters combat
that's why I would have a second shorter sword with me for this kind of situation
and pretty much because of the hard work and discipline you would need to have to properly use one
Yeah the sword i keep on my back is a sortsword well can't remember the name but it's more like a dagger. That way if one of my other ones gets knocked out i'll have a spare.
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hmm.. depends on whats going on. Though if it was one of those run of the mill brawls in a tight space where you would need to escape after and run from people. I would say a pocketknife, about a 4 to 6 inch blade. Enough to do serious damage and enough to flip back close and concel so no one knows you have it.
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a pocket knife is only effective in very cramped spaces... true enough that you have an edge in a fight and no one knows you had it, but it cant kill directly because a pocket knife was supposed to be used as a utility tool, not an improvised weapon... the only thing you can do is get up close, grab and stab the shit out of somebody, and fall back to evade his return blows with a broken beer bottle (usually)
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zeKer_pencil wrote...
but it cant kill directly because a pocket knife was supposed to be used as a utility tool, not an improvised weapon... Haha! Not if you're Shiki.
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Kuroneko1/2 wrote...
zeKer_pencil wrote...
but it cant kill directly because a pocket knife was supposed to be used as a utility tool, not an improvised weapon... Haha! Not if you're Shiki.

That's not because of the weapon but the eyes that see lines of life and death.
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shiki tohno has a cool power... combine it with a good blade such as a katana, well say farewell and reach to the sky.... though if used for asassination purposes use a knife to the throat or chest... thats sure kill...
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zeKer_pencil wrote...
shiki tohno has a cool power... combine it with a good blade such as a katana, well say farewell and reach to the sky.... though if used for asassination purposes use a knife to the throat or chest... thats sure kill...Huh? Wouldnt a a sword with a better handling be better? He just has to trace through a line, that's all. A good weapon for that power is a small sword.
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Kuroneko1/2 wrote...
zeKer_pencil wrote...
shiki tohno has a cool power... combine it with a good blade such as a katana, well say farewell and reach to the sky.... though if used for asassination purposes use a knife to the throat or chest... thats sure kill...Huh? Wouldnt a a sword with a better handling be better? He just has to trace through a line, that's all. A good weapon for that power is a small sword.
A knife is simple, and easy to use. So it's pretty easy to trace lines with. With something with a longer blade I'd say it would require more precision and dexterity to get a blade into those tiny lines. Like some people have said before you'd have to sacrifice a certain aspect in a weapon to gain an advantage in another, which in this case would be decreased range for ease of handling and precision.
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hmm good point... but EXCLUDING his power thing.... only melee... he maybe cant inflict substantial damage with that thing...
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zeKer_pencil wrote...
hmm good point... but EXCLUDING his power thing.... only melee... he maybe cant inflict substantial damage with that thing...Of course you've already said it before too, the only way a knife in real melee combat is going to inflict any fatal damage is a strike to the neck or chest. And about my preference for heavy weapons I would like to ask.
Between a Warhammer and Heavy Axe which is a better one for killing? I know they're impractical but nonetheless if one wielded the strength to use their weapons to their full potential then they are certainly powerful weapons. But with that being said that can be applied with all types of melee weapons.
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Blank_Zai wrote...
zeKer_pencil wrote...
hmm good point... but EXCLUDING his power thing.... only melee... he maybe cant inflict substantial damage with that thing...Of course you've already said it before too, the only way a knife in real melee combat is going to inflict any fatal damage is a strike to the neck or chest. And about my preference for heavy weapons I would like to ask.
Between a Warhammer and Heavy Axe which is a better one for killing? I know they're impractical but nonetheless if one wielded the strength to use their weapons to their full potential then they are certainly powerful weapons. But with that being said that can be applied with all types of melee weapons.
well thats up to you... they both can really kill.... if you want to bash the brains out of the opponent or knock him down for a finishing blow, or if you want broken limbs at an instant, i'd say WARHAMMER!
but if you like hacking your opponent, dismembering his limbs, decapitation or armor piercing, then use the battleaxe... since they're heavy, you might as well have strength to lift it to battle and go along with it...
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In the videogame Diablo (1). Heavy weapon adds dexterity. So I get the idea that the size can help at hitting, so if my opponent is fast, my weapon would reach the position he hops on, that's for a fully evasive guy. But for someone who'll go for my critical spots as I thought about the critical attack specialty of fast types on RPGs, what I thought about is, a keep away fighting, hopping back small distances so their attempt of critical attack(such as one's neck), one could rather counter his ill ranged strike with longer ranged heavy stuff since, I suppose they got longer handles. And for any quicker defense such as parrying, the head can hinder the parrying due to force, that it can't change direction, and blocking it with a faster weapon is hard due to an obvious reason. But I think the arms were surely in danger so armor on arms would be good with it
I'm just opening path for buds to enjoy the art of big weapon.
I'm just opening path for buds to enjoy the art of big weapon.
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It has to be the knife. If your crap at fighting (which I am) you can throw it from a distance and then run like hell. You might even get lucky and hit somewhere vital.
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well you can throw it but theres a probability that YOU cant even kill the bastard... if you have eagle eyes and steady hands, well you can even incapacitate or more, kill the target 10 meters away