So I may be a dad sometime soon
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bitch run! mexico is close plus you got cash to live good be quick take heed to my advice.
sorry dont like commitment. soooooo have fun
sorry dont like commitment. soooooo have fun
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On the abortion micro-debate. It's all about man's "rights" vs the woman's "rights".
Does the woman have the right to destroy a lump of cells/baby/whatever term people can dream up for it? Why does she have that right? (+Rep for anyone who can answer that and doesn't try to tug on the emotion strings or use the "in her belly" argument)
Why does the woman's decision override the male regardless of their individual decisions? He/She wants to keep it or He/She wants to remove it.
Does one own themselves, their fluids, their genetics as property? If so, then why does the woman get to decide what happens to the man's "property"?
People lean too much on the crutch of "it's in her belly".
On topic: Man up. Anyone can take the easy way out but, it takes a real man to take the responsible way out.
Does the woman have the right to destroy a lump of cells/baby/whatever term people can dream up for it? Why does she have that right? (+Rep for anyone who can answer that and doesn't try to tug on the emotion strings or use the "in her belly" argument)
Why does the woman's decision override the male regardless of their individual decisions? He/She wants to keep it or He/She wants to remove it.
Does one own themselves, their fluids, their genetics as property? If so, then why does the woman get to decide what happens to the man's "property"?
People lean too much on the crutch of "it's in her belly".
On topic: Man up. Anyone can take the easy way out but, it takes a real man to take the responsible way out.
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Not 100% sure. Do you know if she does have another BF? What is her father and brothers like? (just in case you decide not to claim the baby)
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Life is like a test ; if you think that it's hard , be sure to double-check your answers.
Wow , that sounded lame.
Anyway , make sure you're the dad and then go for it.
Wow , that sounded lame.
Anyway , make sure you're the dad and then go for it.
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@ FPod:
It's quite obvious if one just takes the time to ponder. It's really a combination of issues, some of which applies always and others only to specific situations.
The women will have to take responsibility. Whatever she's doing, her career, her plans, her schooling, all will have to be put on hold or cancelled forever if she decides to keep the baby. For students, this could be the difference between making or breaking their lives.
Such a thing cannot be decided by someone who does not have to take the full blunt of the responsibility. The man, by society's fucked up standards, will not be stoned to death for the abortion of the fetus. It's always the women that get the blame. Unfair? Quite so. But that's the way people think, and some men will take advantage of that.
And it's even worse if the father runs. Then the women will have to take the full weight of the financial issues. It's not cheap raising a child, and it's downright a miracle to raise one well, without devoting all your time to the child and none to work. Single parents have it hard.
Therefore, women, who have the majority of the pressures and pains of childrearing, should get to decide whether or not to keep the child. The father just helped in creation, and only have rights to see the child should he/she be born, and the responsibility in monetary terms and such, and does not have to actively participate in the raising. However, the women will always be in charge of the child by default, so any lifestyle changes she makes will be required and permanent, so she has the rights to decide if she’s willing to go through with this or not.
This is the argument for pro-abortion: women gets shit for it, but is viewed by society as responsible, even though men are just as guilty of the act. Abortion can save them the pains of life changing decisions when they don't want to or are not ready for it.
It's quite obvious if one just takes the time to ponder. It's really a combination of issues, some of which applies always and others only to specific situations.
The women will have to take responsibility. Whatever she's doing, her career, her plans, her schooling, all will have to be put on hold or cancelled forever if she decides to keep the baby. For students, this could be the difference between making or breaking their lives.
Such a thing cannot be decided by someone who does not have to take the full blunt of the responsibility. The man, by society's fucked up standards, will not be stoned to death for the abortion of the fetus. It's always the women that get the blame. Unfair? Quite so. But that's the way people think, and some men will take advantage of that.
And it's even worse if the father runs. Then the women will have to take the full weight of the financial issues. It's not cheap raising a child, and it's downright a miracle to raise one well, without devoting all your time to the child and none to work. Single parents have it hard.
Therefore, women, who have the majority of the pressures and pains of childrearing, should get to decide whether or not to keep the child. The father just helped in creation, and only have rights to see the child should he/she be born, and the responsibility in monetary terms and such, and does not have to actively participate in the raising. However, the women will always be in charge of the child by default, so any lifestyle changes she makes will be required and permanent, so she has the rights to decide if she’s willing to go through with this or not.
This is the argument for pro-abortion: women gets shit for it, but is viewed by society as responsible, even though men are just as guilty of the act. Abortion can save them the pains of life changing decisions when they don't want to or are not ready for it.
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x-gen wrote...
The man, by society's fucked up standards, will not be stoned to death for the abortion of the fetus. It's always the women that get the blame.What? Women get the blame for having abortions? First and foremost, if the baby is suposedly the woman's responsibility, and as you people generally say the decision is up to her, why should you care what she does with it?
Also, how will men "take advantage of that"?
x-gen wrote...
And it's even worse if the father runs. Then the women will have to take the full weight of the financial issues. It's not cheap raising a child, and it's downright a miracle to raise one well, without devoting all your time to the child and none to work. Single parents have it hard.But isn't that what men usually do? Isn't it only fair that if the roles are reversed (the man will take care of the child) the woman would have to support them? I fail to see the difference.
x-gen wrote...
Therefore, women, who have the majority of the pressures and pains of childrearing, should get to decide whether or not to keep the child. The father just helped in creation, and only have rights to see the child should he/she be born, and the responsibility in monetary terms and such, and does not have to actively participate in the raising.WOW! Now this was the single most fucking selfish comment i've seen in a while.
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Be a man and take responsibilities. This is a rather wrong place to ask for advice in that kind of a serious matter. Chances are you'll only get only a handful of good advice and mostly advices from perverts who are almost all underage and only talk trash and thinks that they are smart and know it all even though they are still virgins. The best move for you is consult your parents coz they have the most experience.
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I think the fact that you are doing all these procedures and are already preparing to take responsibility even without knowing if this is your child or not is a sign that you can be a great dad. Being a good father is not all about your income. It's great that you have money set aside already. I believe you have what it takes to be a great dad despite your past. Let's just all hope for the best!
I'm certain everyone here in fakku wishes you great luck!
Edit: just like Softbanker said, try consulting your parents. They most likely know how to handle this situation since they know you the best.
I'm certain everyone here in fakku wishes you great luck!
Edit: just like Softbanker said, try consulting your parents. They most likely know how to handle this situation since they know you the best.
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@ Kuroneko
Dude, you seem offended... That wasn't my intention, and perhaps I worded things a little unclearly. As I've said, while some issues apply to people all the time, not all issues will apply all the time to everybody. It depends a lot on the circumstances around the couple.
Firstly, What I meant by the blame on women, you could probably imagine it for yourself. If for example, a woman got pregnant, and broke up with her (bastard) boyfriend after getting an abortion. If rumours of said abortion gets spread out by the boyfriend... Who'll get the bad rep, the boyfriend or the woman? Of course this doesn't happen all the time, but really, the point is that there is a stigma regarding abortions, and women do feel guilt when they undergo abortion. Therefore, you can probably foresee that some devious men will use that to take the heat off themselves. Just a thought.
Also, I'm not saying guys don't have any rights regarding their child; in fact, that's what I actually meant. They have rights to see the child they made, but they don't have to raise him/her. They just have to pay for the cost of childraising, and can escape the responsibility of fatherhood. That's why you see men that breaks up and only pays the child welfare instead of taking responsibility. Since raising kids cost a bundle, you really can't do things halfway, and if a man runs, you can see how hard it would be for a woman to handle things herself.
We're not just talking about responsibilities and such, but also why it would be better to let the woman decide whether or not to keep the child. If the mothers has to be the one to carry and nurture the child herself, and having to devote great time and energy to do so, then shouldn't they have the final say in whether or not they want to undergo such an endevour?
As for the money issues. It becomes clear when you look at the average single parent families. It's rather hard to fund the child by yourself, and yet if the father has final say in the matter decides to keep the child while the woman isn't sure she's ready, it could cause problems in the future. However, as there are quite a number of less than acceptable men out there who would run at the word responsibility, it would probably be a good idea, just to be on the safe side, to let the women handle the decision.
Of course, couples in good relationships that are both mature and finacially secure, can decide together as to whether or not to keep the child. In terms of the law, however, whether or not to abort the fetus might be better of left in the hands of the woman.
Dude, you seem offended... That wasn't my intention, and perhaps I worded things a little unclearly. As I've said, while some issues apply to people all the time, not all issues will apply all the time to everybody. It depends a lot on the circumstances around the couple.
Firstly, What I meant by the blame on women, you could probably imagine it for yourself. If for example, a woman got pregnant, and broke up with her (bastard) boyfriend after getting an abortion. If rumours of said abortion gets spread out by the boyfriend... Who'll get the bad rep, the boyfriend or the woman? Of course this doesn't happen all the time, but really, the point is that there is a stigma regarding abortions, and women do feel guilt when they undergo abortion. Therefore, you can probably foresee that some devious men will use that to take the heat off themselves. Just a thought.
Also, I'm not saying guys don't have any rights regarding their child; in fact, that's what I actually meant. They have rights to see the child they made, but they don't have to raise him/her. They just have to pay for the cost of childraising, and can escape the responsibility of fatherhood. That's why you see men that breaks up and only pays the child welfare instead of taking responsibility. Since raising kids cost a bundle, you really can't do things halfway, and if a man runs, you can see how hard it would be for a woman to handle things herself.
We're not just talking about responsibilities and such, but also why it would be better to let the woman decide whether or not to keep the child. If the mothers has to be the one to carry and nurture the child herself, and having to devote great time and energy to do so, then shouldn't they have the final say in whether or not they want to undergo such an endevour?
As for the money issues. It becomes clear when you look at the average single parent families. It's rather hard to fund the child by yourself, and yet if the father has final say in the matter decides to keep the child while the woman isn't sure she's ready, it could cause problems in the future. However, as there are quite a number of less than acceptable men out there who would run at the word responsibility, it would probably be a good idea, just to be on the safe side, to let the women handle the decision.
Of course, couples in good relationships that are both mature and finacially secure, can decide together as to whether or not to keep the child. In terms of the law, however, whether or not to abort the fetus might be better of left in the hands of the woman.
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@Xgen: I could go into a lengthy diatribe but, I'll continue to keep my answer short and generally neutral in opinion.
I may get chastised for such "impractical" advice but, if a couple are not ready for a child, he should keep it in his pants and she should keep her legs closed.
Having sex and not wanting kids should they result seems like a moment of "having your cake and eating it too".
A few more questions to provoke discussion.
Do you believe humans have a right to live? If so, when does that right take effect, is it at conception, at a certain trimester, certain number of weeks, only once the kid makes it outside the womb or until the tricycle motor makes it to 18?
At what stage is an human entity entitled to the protections of the government?
I tried coming up with some pro-choice arguments but, frankly there we all weak and easily countered by any pro-lifer with 15 minutes.
Also I'm simply doing this for discussion. My personal feelings are far removed.
I may get chastised for such "impractical" advice but, if a couple are not ready for a child, he should keep it in his pants and she should keep her legs closed.
Having sex and not wanting kids should they result seems like a moment of "having your cake and eating it too".
A few more questions to provoke discussion.
Do you believe humans have a right to live? If so, when does that right take effect, is it at conception, at a certain trimester, certain number of weeks, only once the kid makes it outside the womb or until the tricycle motor makes it to 18?
At what stage is an human entity entitled to the protections of the government?
I tried coming up with some pro-choice arguments but, frankly there we all weak and easily countered by any pro-lifer with 15 minutes.
Also I'm simply doing this for discussion. My personal feelings are far removed.
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Spoiler:
FieryPenguinOfDoom wrote...
I may get chastised for such "impractical" advice but, if a couple are not ready for a child, he should keep it in his pants and she should keep her legs closed.A little exaggerated, don't you think? Accidents do happen (e.g. condom breaking), and there are ways to make up for them e.g. abortion.
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do you think your father material
do you want to be looked down on? abortion is looked down on by most people.
want the child to go through life never knowing his/ her true parents were?
well yeah go to the woman find out if the child is truly yours. Talk to her and find out what she thinks, and wants.
do you want to be looked down on? abortion is looked down on by most people.
want the child to go through life never knowing his/ her true parents were?
well yeah go to the woman find out if the child is truly yours. Talk to her and find out what she thinks, and wants.
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Why are people asking him if he wants an abortion? He said that if he brings that up she'll castrate him. (atleast he want have to worry about his agian)
And they both are financialy set.(fuck bitches = get paid)
So all he has to worry about is a name (e.g. Kudos) and if he will be a good dad. (vodka in the bottle usualy calms them down)
And they both are financialy set.(fuck bitches = get paid)
So all he has to worry about is a name (e.g. Kudos) and if he will be a good dad. (vodka in the bottle usualy calms them down)
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Ah yeah... that's right...
Jinx... you're family here, so keep us posted yeah? You can even start a poll for potential names for the kid, and we can all vote on it.
Won't that be a story to tell.
"Hey dad, how did you decide on my name?"
"Well son, funny you should ask... see, once upon a time, father was on this site...."
Jinx... you're family here, so keep us posted yeah? You can even start a poll for potential names for the kid, and we can all vote on it.
Won't that be a story to tell.
"Hey dad, how did you decide on my name?"
"Well son, funny you should ask... see, once upon a time, father was on this site...."
