So I may be a dad sometime soon
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Kuroneko1/2 wrote...
A little exaggerated, don't you think? Accidents do happen (e.g. condom breaking), and there are ways to make up for them e.g. abortion.Honestly, not really. Condoms and birth control are not perfect and there still lies some risk of pregnancy. If you deem the risk worth it and have sex. You shouldn't try to bail if a pregnancy occurs.
Any other action we take, we accept the consequences. Why does sex somehow get exempt from the basic rules we use to make every decision in our lives?
Lets take any behavior, like driving a car for instance. If I injure someone or cause property damage through my actions then I have to accept the consequences even if it was an accident.
Random Fact: Less than 8% of all women seeking abortions did not use any form of contraception.
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zachwolf wrote...
Why are people asking him if he wants an abortion? He said that if he brings that up she'll castrate him. (atleast he want have to worry about his agian) The only reason he is afraid of that is because of what someone on IRC had told him when he asked for an opinion. Not all girls will cut and cook your balls for mentioning abortion.
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Fiery penguin of doom wrote...
If you deem the risk worth it and have sex. You shouldn't try to bail if a pregnancy occurs.What? Excuse me, but that sounds absolutely ridiculous.
Fiery penguin of doom wrote...
Any other action we take, we accept the consequences. Why does sex somehow get exempt from the basic rules we use to make every decision in our lives?Lets take any behavior, like driving a car for instance. If I injure someone or cause property damage through my actions then I have to accept the consequences even if it was an accident.
Okay, let's take that example then. Say, you're driving your car and one day you happen to accidentaly hit someone, causing serious irreversible injuries to said person. As the damage cannot be undone, you'd have to cope with the fact that you hurt someone beyond repair.
But let's say that you only caused some minor wounds to the person. Isn't it fair that you apologise for your mistake and move on? Like in the case at hand - unplanned pregnancy - there is a way to fix it, so why should you not try to? This is not just any accident, it's an event that will consume many years of the parent's lives, and will have a toll on another person's life as well - the child's.
Or are telling me that accidents should not be an excuse and a person should not be allowed to try and redeem himself? What about this example- a long time smoker develops lung cancer. Are you saying that this person shouldn't be allowed to receive any treatment?
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penguin of doom wrote...
Does the woman have the right to destroy a lump of cells/baby/whatever term people can dream up for it?She has the ability. Rights are decided by the local government.
penguin of doom wrote...
Why does the woman's decision override the male regardless of their individual decisions?Depends on the local "relationship" image (remember muslims) and the roles they play in it.
penguin of doom wrote...
Does one own themselves, their fluids, their genetics as property?Can i cut your eyes out then, to relieve you from seeing how this world works?
@kuroneko
smoking and abortion are of two different weight categories for the woman involved. Imagine yourself bearing a child...
sorry, you can't.
even if it is only a pack of cells, most people just can't simply overstep their conscience and unbringing norms of behaviour.
besides, i think the man has already made his decision :)
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Jichan- Yes, they are two absolutely different situations, but I was just trying to convey that it is fair for a person to try and make up for their mistakes.
I really cant imagine what it would be to bear a child. But I believe that the welfare of the child is much more important than the shame of having gone through an abortion.
Jinx- Sorry for bringing these arguments into your thread. Whatever your decision is, I wish you the best of luck.
I really cant imagine what it would be to bear a child. But I believe that the welfare of the child is much more important than the shame of having gone through an abortion.
Jinx- Sorry for bringing these arguments into your thread. Whatever your decision is, I wish you the best of luck.
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You must raise this child as the omega weeaboo. He must have tons of mangos and animus as well as a super weeaboo name like "Zepherian". He must also be a stage 3 japanophile who you drive into their skull they must some day move and live in japan as well as learn the language.
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Let me get down to it and reiterate some shall I?
1. I have said my piece to her, it's her choice to abort it, give it up for adoption, or keep it.
2. If she does keep it, I will claim it as my own if and only if paternity test say it is mine.
3. I had dinner with her and her folks they are understanding of the situation, and her mother is upset because her baby girl is pregnant, and her dad is upset because I am the prime suspect for the baby daddy but then I doubt it's not mine.
4. @softbanker: this isn't 4Chan
5. I'm prepared to marry her and raise this son/daughter as my own if paternity test do show I am the father.
6. @Otakumax: If this child is mine and is a daughter I'd castrate you with my bare hands if you ever so touch her.
7. @[z]NOFUTURE: I don't think the Otakuness will be a problem for this child both me and the mother are anime/manga addict's. The onlything I am worried about is if he/she will become a Furrier liker his/her mother.
1. I have said my piece to her, it's her choice to abort it, give it up for adoption, or keep it.
2. If she does keep it, I will claim it as my own if and only if paternity test say it is mine.
3. I had dinner with her and her folks they are understanding of the situation, and her mother is upset because her baby girl is pregnant, and her dad is upset because I am the prime suspect for the baby daddy but then I doubt it's not mine.
4. @softbanker: this isn't 4Chan
5. I'm prepared to marry her and raise this son/daughter as my own if paternity test do show I am the father.
6. @Otakumax: If this child is mine and is a daughter I'd castrate you with my bare hands if you ever so touch her.
7. @[z]NOFUTURE: I don't think the Otakuness will be a problem for this child both me and the mother are anime/manga addict's. The onlything I am worried about is if he/she will become a Furrier liker his/her mother.
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Who knows, raising a child would be a fun experience. Through, I hope it works well with you and her since hearing you say the folks aren't pleased and it could end up like another cheap soap opera.
Btw; if it's your child, post a picture of him/her.
Btw; if it's your child, post a picture of him/her.
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Apparently people don't like the idea of provoking discussion. I'd figure everybody knew I enjoy discussions to an extent that I will even debate in support ideas I'm actually opposed to.
Which part is ridiculous, the accepting your consequences or the make a conscious decision to avoid a certain activity until you can accept the consequences?
Okay, let's take that example then. Say, you're driving your car and one day you happen to accidentaly hit someone, causing serious irreversible injuries to said person. As the damage cannot be undone, you'd have to cope with the fact that you hurt someone beyond repair.
But let's say that you only caused some minor wounds to the person. Isn't it fair that you apologise for your mistake and move on? Like in the case at hand - unplanned pregnancy - there is a way to fix it, so why should you not try to? This is not just any accident, it's an event that will consume many years of the parent's lives, and will have a toll on another person's life as well - the child's.
Or are telling me that accidents should not be an excuse and a person should not be allowed to try and redeem himself? What about this example- a long time smoker develops lung cancer. Are you saying that this person shouldn't be allowed to receive any treatment?[/quote]
Every time I get behind the wheel of my truck, ziggy's car or any of the vehicles I drive for my customers I make a mental note "I can/may hurt/possibly kill somebody or myself by driving. Do I accept that risk"? Every time I say yes because I accept the consequences of my "accidents". If I ran somebody over, I wouldn't try to cover my accident by slitting the poor bastards throat.
Again, doing this for simple discussion and because I'm bored.
Kuroneko1/2 wrote...
What? Excuse me, but that sounds absolutely ridiculousWhich part is ridiculous, the accepting your consequences or the make a conscious decision to avoid a certain activity until you can accept the consequences?
Lets take any behavior, like driving a car for instance. If I injure someone or cause property damage through my actions then I have to accept the consequences even if it was an accident.
Okay, let's take that example then. Say, you're driving your car and one day you happen to accidentaly hit someone, causing serious irreversible injuries to said person. As the damage cannot be undone, you'd have to cope with the fact that you hurt someone beyond repair.
But let's say that you only caused some minor wounds to the person. Isn't it fair that you apologise for your mistake and move on? Like in the case at hand - unplanned pregnancy - there is a way to fix it, so why should you not try to? This is not just any accident, it's an event that will consume many years of the parent's lives, and will have a toll on another person's life as well - the child's.
Or are telling me that accidents should not be an excuse and a person should not be allowed to try and redeem himself? What about this example- a long time smoker develops lung cancer. Are you saying that this person shouldn't be allowed to receive any treatment?[/quote]
Every time I get behind the wheel of my truck, ziggy's car or any of the vehicles I drive for my customers I make a mental note "I can/may hurt/possibly kill somebody or myself by driving. Do I accept that risk"? Every time I say yes because I accept the consequences of my "accidents". If I ran somebody over, I wouldn't try to cover my accident by slitting the poor bastards throat.
Again, doing this for simple discussion and because I'm bored.
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Little~Dove wrote...
How old are you and your Girlfriend (maybe wifey)?just a random thought of mind..
I'm 25 and she is 27
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Just a thought. What if you could
choose the sex of your kid what would you choose
boy, girl, or somwhere in between
choose the sex of your kid what would you choose
boy, girl, or somwhere in between
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trekki859 wrote...
id say try and get her to get an abortion if not then adoption.Shit doesnt any one read the fucking thread!
He already stated that they're keeping the damn thing!
(if this was meant to be sarcasm i appoligize)
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zachwolf wrote...
Just a thought. What if you couldchoose the sex of your kid what would you choose
boy, girl, or somwhere in between
I'd like ot have a son, because of a philosophy of mine about me having children.
If I have a son, then I only have one kid to worry about. If I have a duaghter I have to worry about every Dick that gets near her, and quite frankly I don't like the idea of preforming bare handed castration on anyone.
zachwolf wrote...
trekki859 wrote...
id say try and get her to get an abortion if not then adoption.Shit doesnt any one read the fucking thread!
He already stated that they're keeping the damn thing!
(if this was meant to be sarcasm i appoligize)
You obviously don't read enough yourself. I have no idea what she want's to do, as I don't know if I am the father or not 100% sure. IT IS HER CHOICE OF WHAT TO DO, I HAVE ALREADY TOLD HER THAT.
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Regarding the dinner with her folks, are they cool with you as a son-in-law? They're mad at you, perhaps, but that doesn't say much about their approval of marriage should the baby be yours.
Also, how's your girl's condition? Is she chill about things or just shy of a nervous wreck? It maybe a good idea to keep an eye out for her mental stability, even if she's normally calmed. This is a high stress situation, even if she's been through it before.
Lastly, is she cool with a monogamous relationship? You said she was still free to fling like a single, but if the child is yours, then is she willing to adjust to the couple's life?
Also, how's your girl's condition? Is she chill about things or just shy of a nervous wreck? It maybe a good idea to keep an eye out for her mental stability, even if she's normally calmed. This is a high stress situation, even if she's been through it before.
Lastly, is she cool with a monogamous relationship? You said she was still free to fling like a single, but if the child is yours, then is she willing to adjust to the couple's life?
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x-gen wrote...
Regarding the dinner with her folks, are they cool with you as a son-in-law? They're mad at you, perhaps, but that doesn't say much about their approval of marriage should the baby be yours.Also, how's your girl's condition? Is she chill about things or just shy of a nervous wreck? It maybe a good idea to keep an eye out for her mental stability, even if she's normally calmed. This is a high stress situation, even if she's been through it before.
Lastly, is she cool with a monogamous relationship? You said she was still free to fling like a single, but if the child is yours, then is she willing to adjust to the couple's life?
Parent's think I am a decent guy, they are pissed because I do not owe up to a child I ma not 100% certain is mine but they think I would be a good match for their daughter.
As far as I know she's stable a bit shocked by all of this, as I am as well. But she seems to be functioning as normal.
She's more cool with it than I am, I like the ability to swing around and sew my oats in different pasture's but I can be a one woman man if I have to be.