20 years or suicide?
Which option would you choose?
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discordia wrote...
@maskedso you cant order a subscription to one (or several) of the gaming magazines, not even newspapers? that really sucks. what about games that where in development when you get there, or every once in a while you could simply request the next thing, like as of now its nfs 11 i think, so in a year you might request nfs 12, if they dont have it, just wait another half year...
what about mods?
i guess no pets either, right?
*Nod *nod, you cant order subscriptions to magazines. Games in development are also a nono. So no diablo 3 or starcraft 2 :)
No pets as well. That would defeat the purpose of ensuring that the clone is a mindless zombie that can't show emotions etc..
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KLoWn wrote...
Man i would probably choose Door A even if Door B lead back to "reality".lolz!..same!
after reading through all post i'd still choose room A though getting sick would be a problem...<(-.-)>...though any food, anyone, and anything current(where lucky its the 21 century unlike 50 years ago) is perfect ecept playing private server game with your clone isn't that great(though we probably be pro in dota by the end of the first year) and i'd actually have time to play all the final fantasy game currently today...space is a concern but i'll make it work
ohh and what happens if we wait the 2 hours in the first room?
Ps:first post :D <(-,-)>...need to edit profile soon..lol
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In Room A, one is able to request for certain forms of entertainment. The keyword here is "request". By performing a "request", one is essentially interacting/communicating with someone or something from the "outside" world, so to a certain extent, the subject is not entirely isolated.
The possibility of not dying after using the gun on oneself upon entering Room B still exists. That definitely does not appeal to me.
The possibility of not dying after using the gun on oneself upon entering Room B still exists. That definitely does not appeal to me.
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Gambler wrote...
In Room A, one is able to request for certain forms of entertainment. The keyword here is "request". By performing a "request", one is essentially interacting/communicating with someone or something from the "outside" world, so to a certain extent, the subject is not entirely isolated.The possibility of not dying after using the gun on oneself upon entering Room B still exists. That definitely does not appeal to me.
I think a request would simply be asking for something, then having a panel with the thing open up, or something to that extent. It doesn't seem to be any real sort of communication. After all, it could be a robot or computer giving you what you request.
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ShaggyJebus wrote...
Gambler wrote...
In Room A, one is able to request for certain forms of entertainment. The keyword here is "request". By performing a "request", one is essentially interacting/communicating with someone or something from the "outside" world, so to a certain extent, the subject is not entirely isolated.The possibility of not dying after using the gun on oneself upon entering Room B still exists. That definitely does not appeal to me.
I think a request would simply be asking for something, then having a panel with the thing open up, or something to that extent. It doesn't seem to be any real sort of communication. After all, it could be a robot or computer giving you what you request.
Someone or something has to read what you have requested and process it. In other words, there is another party at the other end listening to one's request within Room A. A one-way communication is still communication... right? :D
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ShaggyJebus wrote...
Gambler wrote...
In Room A, one is able to request for certain forms of entertainment. The keyword here is "request". By performing a "request", one is essentially interacting/communicating with someone or something from the "outside" world, so to a certain extent, the subject is not entirely isolated.The possibility of not dying after using the gun on oneself upon entering Room B still exists. That definitely does not appeal to me.
I think a request would simply be asking for something, then having a panel with the thing open up, or something to that extent. It doesn't seem to be any real sort of communication. After all, it could be a robot or computer giving you what you request.
Someone or something has to read what you have requested and process it. In other words, there is another party at the other end listening to one's request within Room A. A one-way communication is still communication... right? :D
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Arren wrote...
ShaggyJebus wrote...
g-money wrote...
ShaggyJebus wrote...
Of course, in the thread, nobody really thought of the clone as anything more than a tool for sex.And this is why 4chan fails, and fails hard. It's possible that the clone might be the only salvation one can get in a situation as described. Unless you consider talking to your captors, which I doubt you can do, then the clone is only other person besides yourself to interact with.
Very true. A person can easily go insane without any human contact. I wonder how long that takes. Five years? Five months? Five weeks?
They tried an experiment like that to see how important social contact was, and after deeming one person psychologically able to go through with the experiment, they locked her away in an apartment with nothing but a calender to count the days, a few pieces of furniture, supplies of food and the camera to record her feelings. Thing is, there was nothing remotely resembling a human in that room, so they could accurately judge it.
If I remember correctly, she started off quite well, and after a week got pretty depressed, during the second week she couldn't sleep and went a little crazy, and after almost three weeks ended the experiment, breaking down in tears after she got into the street and could see people.
If you factor in the clone and the luxury of getting anything you ask for in exchange for all human contact for 20 years, it might be possible, but still not likely. I'd love to do that though, as long as I still had good ol' TV and internet (though I suppose they would cut off all ways of communication through it).
Problem with that is that they made sure she was psycologically stable.
Of course a normal person would go insane so quickly, normal humans need interaction with other humans, we are social creatures. But someone who is not psycologically stable, someone who is at least antisocial in some way, woul dprobably last longer.
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Klatchian wrote...
Well, I'd probably go for the room A. 20x12 = 240 girls. Quite much? xDobviously you forgot you can only have one clone at a time.
I would choose room A just like most of the people have already choosen. That is a long time 20 years is, but death just wouldn't appeal to me unless I was depressed for like 10 years or something. I believe I would probably go insane at the end of year at the least. I don't think any sane person would be as sane as they were 20 years ago if released. Many social problems; inability to communicate normal(probably goes under social problems). After all of it, I'd ask the researchers what it was about, most likely respond that is a psycologial experiment. But that would never happen, right?
I think the first things I would request is a grand piano, trombone and some other crap so I could increase my talents by the time I get out.
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Well, I would pick A even though I would probably go crazy fairly quickly. Even if the room is large and you have unlimited entertainment it can only last so long. I know eventually I would go stir crazy and probably start trashing the place.
The whole idea of the clone is pretty awesome, but it is basically a zombie. It would be nice for a while and then that would get annoying. Unless you were able to program it a little. Then it could help be distracting. But again, the solitude would probably drive me crazy pretty quickly.
The whole idea of the clone is pretty awesome, but it is basically a zombie. It would be nice for a while and then that would get annoying. Unless you were able to program it a little. Then it could help be distracting. But again, the solitude would probably drive me crazy pretty quickly.
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Room A, at the drop of a hat.
Hell, I'd be through the door before the hat dropped half a millimeter.
I think that, in all fairness, one clinically cannot reach a state of madness brought about through isolation and the contemplation thereof in such a room.
As long as you have the imagination for it(cue rainbow), in a room that provides you with whatever exists withing you scope of current knowledge, there is always something new to try.
For instance, I could request a dozen books on Psychology, and spend a month trying to figure out why the clone cannot show emotion. I could spend a few months finally learning Japanese.
Could spend a few weeks learning some tradeskills.
Could learn to fight with and without weapons with the clone as a sparring partner.
The list of things you can do, in an environment where all the currently archived information of the human race is at ones fingertips, how can you possibly run OUT of things to do?
And, as for the emotionless clone thing, two words:
Rei Ayanami.
Honestly, there is precedent for all of life's little problems if you look hard enough.
Hell, I'd be through the door before the hat dropped half a millimeter.
I think that, in all fairness, one clinically cannot reach a state of madness brought about through isolation and the contemplation thereof in such a room.
As long as you have the imagination for it(cue rainbow), in a room that provides you with whatever exists withing you scope of current knowledge, there is always something new to try.
For instance, I could request a dozen books on Psychology, and spend a month trying to figure out why the clone cannot show emotion. I could spend a few months finally learning Japanese.
Could spend a few weeks learning some tradeskills.
Could learn to fight with and without weapons with the clone as a sparring partner.
The list of things you can do, in an environment where all the currently archived information of the human race is at ones fingertips, how can you possibly run OUT of things to do?
And, as for the emotionless clone thing, two words:
Rei Ayanami.
Honestly, there is precedent for all of life's little problems if you look hard enough.
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I think that most of the people here are greatly underestimating the need for human interaction in fostering mental stability. There's a difference between becoming a gibbering schizophrenic mess and being mentally ill. Not to mention how insanely socially retarded and out of touch you'd become. Imagine going from the prime of your life to being 40 and suddenly unleashed in society you haven't been in for two decades.
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*Nod yea. When I decided to choose Room A for myself, I was fully aware that I would probably go insane after a few years. But that still striked me as a better choice over committing suicide and the relative unknown that waiting out the two hours would bring. For all I know they would just kill me off anyway to keep their little experiment a secret.
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After reading all the posts, I would come to the conclusion of choosing door A..
having 'most' of the things you want upon request is a pretty good deal, and in that 20 years, you can teach yourself many things..
learning a new instrument, or many and achieve a master grade in that.. or you could practice various kinds of martial arts but of course, it might all be for naught..
having a room 3 times your average room should allow you to be pretty cosy plus you can edit the room to your liking..
all in all Room A should be the better choice..
having 'most' of the things you want upon request is a pretty good deal, and in that 20 years, you can teach yourself many things..
learning a new instrument, or many and achieve a master grade in that.. or you could practice various kinds of martial arts but of course, it might all be for naught..
having a room 3 times your average room should allow you to be pretty cosy plus you can edit the room to your liking..
all in all Room A should be the better choice..
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I'd Choose door B.
Then wait untill the first of them opens that damn door and shoot him.
Or if that doesnt work. With an awesome ability take off the bullet/bullets from the gun except one tell them that it isn't working.
Wait for that one Mofo to pop in and give me a new gun and kill the fuck out of him.
If I take at least one of them down I'll be happy.
Then wait untill the first of them opens that damn door and shoot him.
Or if that doesnt work. With an awesome ability take off the bullet/bullets from the gun except one tell them that it isn't working.
Wait for that one Mofo to pop in and give me a new gun and kill the fuck out of him.
If I take at least one of them down I'll be happy.
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blind_assassin wrote...
Not to mention how insanely socially retarded and out of touch you'd become. Imagine going from the prime of your life to being 40 and suddenly unleashed in society you haven't been in for two decades.You bring up a very good point.
It's like the guy who, after finally getting out of jail after being in there for decades, robs a bank with a wooden gun painted black. He didn't want to hurt anyone; he just wanted to go back to prison because he didn't know how to live in the outside world.
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blind_assassin wrote...
I think that most of the people here are greatly underestimating the need for human interaction in fostering mental stability. There's a difference between becoming a gibbering schizophrenic mess and being mentally ill. Not to mention how insanely socially retarded and out of touch you'd become. Imagine going from the prime of your life to being 40 and suddenly unleashed in society you haven't been in for two decades.I'm already socially retarded and out of touch...
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Dante1214 wrote...
blind_assassin wrote...
I think that most of the people here are greatly underestimating the need for human interaction in fostering mental stability. There's a difference between becoming a gibbering schizophrenic mess and being mentally ill. Not to mention how insanely socially retarded and out of touch you'd become. Imagine going from the prime of your life to being 40 and suddenly unleashed in society you haven't been in for two decades.I'm already socially retarded and out of touch...
As am I.
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theotaku wrote...
Dante1214 wrote...
blind_assassin wrote...
I think that most of the people here are greatly underestimating the need for human interaction in fostering mental stability. There's a difference between becoming a gibbering schizophrenic mess and being mentally ill. Not to mention how insanely socially retarded and out of touch you'd become. Imagine going from the prime of your life to being 40 and suddenly unleashed in society you haven't been in for two decades.I'm already socially retarded and out of touch...
As am I.
There's a difference between "I'm fine not being 'cool'" and "Jesus Christ what the fuck is happening right now?" 20 years isn't absurdly long but it's long enough that you would have to try hard to get back to even the point of being on the fringe but in the know or you'd literally just have to never really interact with people again.
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blind_assassin wrote...
theotaku wrote...
Dante1214 wrote...
blind_assassin wrote...
I think that most of the people here are greatly underestimating the need for human interaction in fostering mental stability. There's a difference between becoming a gibbering schizophrenic mess and being mentally ill. Not to mention how insanely socially retarded and out of touch you'd become. Imagine going from the prime of your life to being 40 and suddenly unleashed in society you haven't been in for two decades.I'm already socially retarded and out of touch...
As am I.
There's a difference between "I'm fine not being 'cool'" and "Jesus Christ what the fuck is happening right now?" 20 years isn't absurdly long but it's long enough that you would have to try hard to get back to even the point of being on the fringe but in the know or you'd literally just have to never really interact with people again.
That's true, I guess. It would be the whole Rip Van Winkle scenario. 20 years is long enough time that you would be completely displaced. Several of your friends and family members would probably be dead, and even if you didn't have any of those, the general world around you would change. I mean, that's my entire lifetime.