[Locked] 2012 Real? Or A Scare Tactic?

I know what you mean. I get so excited about them that when I see other people's bills, I'm all like, "I'm gonna pay the shit outta that bitch."

The major problem with the approach to 2012 is ignorance. No one really takes the time to read into the details. There are dates recorded by the Mayans that extend thousands of years beyond 2012, but the obsession with the end of the world completely obscures people's attention from that. It's necessary to understand the predictions surrounding 2012 in a natural sense: shit happens, shit takes time to happen, whatever happens happens, and there's no way to prevent shit that is going to happen from happening.

People say that the Mayans couldn't predict the fall of their own society, but the fact of the matter remains that no one really knows how or why it happened. Even after well over 1000 years, there are still Mayans in this world. IMO, the Mayans knew shit was gonna go down, but knew they couldn't stop it. So, they took measures to prevent the absolute destruction of their people and culture. If you look at most sources, there is evidence that there was some knowledge and acceptance of what was to come.

I really need to dust off my books and dig up my online sources because I was way too optimistic about humanity's ability to accept the possibility of inevitable extinction, let alone the implications of anything having to do with 12/21/2012.

I'm drunk right now.

-.- hmmm too bad o well zzzzzzzzzzz

Well if the world really does end ill be very sad that means i only have three years to live and 50 years worth of things to do within in those three! So hopefully everyone has started working on there bucket lists early 0.o. Anyways I get the feeling that 2012 is just a date, i mean consider the situation what if the myan during that time was like the following dialogue between him and his fellow calander making friend:

Myan 1- hmm i wonder if the world will be around jillons of years later i wonder how many years i should put on this huge ass calander.

Myan 2- I dont know lets just settle with 2012 and call it a day and head back to the village.

Myan 1- Ok *head back to there village to live the rest of there lives*


Thats the feeling that i get from the myan persepective but the whole relation to the bible i dont know if thats true or not well will see in three years now wont we.


p.s- If what The Jesus said about the date is really true the world comes to an end on my birthday great !

This has been mentioned before in this topic, I believe.
The scripture you refer to reads, "for you know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night. While people are saying, "Peace and safety," destruction will come on them suddenly, as labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape."1 Thessalonians 5:2-3 (NIV)
Something every Christian readily quotes on any world-ending prophecy.
Presumably, it means that no one can tell or know when the world will end, and if someone did, it would change so that no one did.
It's one of my favorite lines of scripture, not because of any relevance to anything in the real world or anything silly like that, but because it's such an ingenious thing to put into doctrine.
First, it absolves the church and any prophet of it from ever being challenged to determine when the end of days will be. Just by citing that line, they can say that there is no way they could tell when, because it is not God's will.
Second, it is an automatic denouncement of any other prophets built right into scripture. NO ONE can know.
Third, and perhaps most importantly, no one who subscribes to the beliefs of Christianity can take a "sin now, absolve later" attitude. If you believe, you must ALWAYS behave as such, because you never know when rapture might come, and you must always be ready. It takes God's all-seeing eye a bit further by basically saying, "he sees everything you do, and can pass absolute judgment on you and on all man kind at any point, and it will forever be impossible for you to know when that is."

Bloody great, isn't it?
Of course, it's all meaningless anyways. The bible isn't even a particularly interesting work of fiction, I only really read it because, a. I was raised christian and pretty much forced to at a young age and b. I figured it would be handy to have some knowledge of religion if you were going to argue anything about it.

I'm not gonna say that I've already given up on surviving past 2012 but if something does happen the I won't be surprised.

Well it could happen, we won't know until 2012 rolls around and it happens.

my mom said it was 2013. so I don't know what the deal is. We should just worry about here and now, rather then the future, because we may not find something we like. Even if it does or does not involve our imminent doom.

Nothings going to happen, don't worry even if something extra-ordinary will happen, which i doubt, there would be no way to stop it so there is no reason to worry.

Well my life is basically pointless at the moment,
I'm only living for my future, I know it will get better but not for 3 years or so... so the world ending in 2012 would mean my life was all pointless, I've never been happy.. but in 2012 or so I'm gonna leave my country, go to where the girl I love lives and stay with her forever - only then will I be happy ><

2012 If the world ends it ends if it don't end well here is to another 50million years before we do go extinct or 1 month when the world leaders get stupid and nuke the planet.

I think we should be happy to be able to experience the end of the world, I mean, that could be something to brag about if we end up in paradise (or hell?) if there is such a thing. And even if there isn't (I doubt there is) it's still somewhat of a odd experience, and I think it will be awsome, and there is nothing to do about it anyway.
If the world DOSEN'T end, well then we just have to wait untill we blow ourselves of the planet, or the planet blows up by itself.

Unless every country decide to detonate all nukes simultaneously not happening~
Ofc the scenario where Haruhi wants the World destroyed is still valid :P

These same people said the world would end in 2000, remember the Y2K? There were also countless other end of the world prophecies that have been made throughout history, yet those never came true. Odds are the world will end at some point, however there is absolutely no way for humans to predict it.

There has been a prediction every year for hundreds, if not thousands, of years now. Pat Robertson himself predicted that the world would end in 1982, and people still seem to think of him as an important Christian figure... for reasons I'll never figure out. The guy is as crooked, and as close to The Beast as they come, but enough of that.

Think about it like this, how many other end of the world theories have there been? Now think about how many have come true and you'll get the logical answer.

The mayans simply didn't have the time to make their calendar go on for all eternity...

2012 is nothing more than a year on a calander. Nobody in this planet can predict the end of the world.

"End of the world" could be taken literally (ie. destruction of the earth) or the death of one age to be reborn into a new one. Or as another mentioned, the Mayans calendar just mysteriously ended on that year, just as "mysterious" as their disappearance.